Filenames

[Gozer]

Regarding P2P file sharing - Gnutella Network & Bitzi Lookup

What is it with the A55HOLES that change filenames so you donload 900MB of complete crap
There must be a way to find and stop those responsible

the Bitzi Lookup tool is very usefull but it is not as reliable as it could be and can be misused
What we need is a system that can determine if a person sharing a file has changed the file name
and if the file has been submitted to Bitzi as dangerous or misleading then the person is locked out of the Gnutella system and cannot share the file
Here is an example
http://bitzi.com/lookup/YTVBKQU277IS...HQ2K2RB?detail

Obviously many people change file names to suit their own archiving and storage systems but there must be a way of setting up the system to prevent the sharing of deliberately misleading files

[crackerjacker]

Regarding P2P file sharing - Gnutella Network & Bitzi Lookup

What is it with the A55HOLES that change filenames so you donload 900MB of complete crap
There must be a way to find and stop those responsible

the Bitzi Lookup tool is very usefull but it is not as reliable as it could be and can be misused
What we need is a system that can determine if a person sharing a file has changed the file name
and if the file has been submitted to Bitzi as dangerous or misleading then the person is locked out of the Gnutella system and cannot share the file
Here is an example
http://bitzi.com/lookup/YTVBKQU277IS...HQ2K2RB?detail

Obviously many people change file names to suit their own archiving and storage systems but there must be a way of setting up the system to prevent the sharing of deliberately misleading files

There are a couple of things to do to make sure its the actual file that your downloading.
You can use several programs to help you identify the file type.
gspot
avi preview to preview avi files, that have not finish downloading
divx fix to fix part of a broken avi file to view the file
then there is realplayer = plays broken incomplete mpeg files, *use vlc* it might work
virtual dub

just google for these programs
or search on zeropaid in the search section in the forums to find out about them

there are ways to make sure the file you getting are actual
these programs can help
I used virtual dub alot of the times as well

[ourthing2]

Here is an example
http://bitzi.com/lookup/YTVBKQU277IS...HQ2K2RB?detail

so add the correct filename, and give a lower rating to the incorrect one, like i just did.
simple really

but yeah CJ is right about VLC and such, if you use ed2k you can see what users with 100% of the file have it named, and if you use emule MorphXT you can keep your fake file database up to date, and avoid known fakes alltogether

[Gozer]

You cannot simply ADD a correct file name
and you cannot give a lower rating than dangerous or misleading

many files cannot be previewed
Damaged files may be repairable but only when fully downloaded

We need a system to prevent the deliberate sharing of malicious & misleading files
possibly by adapting the Gnutella network & Bitzi lookup
Bitzi stores info that a file is dangerous or misleading so Gnutella could be adapted to use the Bitzi information to prevent a malicious user sharing files
Say a file know to be porn is shared with a known popular filename to make it misleading
then the Gnutella network could be set not to share the file from its location

So that if somebody has the film "Best Porn Film Ever" and has renamed it "Pervy Film 1"
to fit their file archiving then it is not a misleading file name and can be shared

but if somebody has the film "Best Porn Film Ever" and has renamed it "Lord of the Rings"
a Well known and popular title then it is clearly misleading and could be blocked from sharing

[ourthing2]

You cannot simply ADD a correct file name

did you look? LOL
im not talking about uprating and downrating the quality of the file, im talking about uprating correct filenames and downrating bad filenames.
and as for a database of fakes:
http://emulepawcio.sourceforge.net/n...akes/fakes.dat

[Gozer]

Yes I did look
and the Title at the top of the page had been changed
it only proved my point that the Bitzi lookup can be misused by idiots
most P2P file shareing programs use the Gnutella network with file checking with Bitzi
I dont see how the web page you mention helps
Im not knocking it I am sure some people find it usefull
but is hardly a well known and easy to use source of detecting misleading files
and with the vast volume of files being shared an automated system is what is needed
No doubt something is in the pipleline but the sooner we can use it the better

[ourthing2]

I dont see how the web page you mention helps

a lot of emule mods use fakes.dat files to detect fakes.

and it was wrong to gave that file a bad rating because it's miss-named

Please rate based on the completeness and integrity of the file's raw data, rather than your personal likes or dislikes. Also, don't penalize an otherwise good file that's been misnamed.

[Gozer]

The file was not miss-named
It was purposefully Renamed
To DELIBERATELY & MALICIOUSLY MISLEAD people
otherwise the filename would give a clue as to the actual content of the file
you clearly did not pay attention to my message
or in refference to your quote by me
you would of seen that I continued
Im not knocking it I am sure some people find it usefull

[infringer]

There were websites that did help on this issue but the unfortunate thing is that many of them were shut down with ED2K and BT links the problem with it is that it has been decided that linking for P2P apps is pretty much not tolerated to copywrited materials on a P2P network...

So the next logical thing is a rating system that can be built into the program...

Another thing that would be nice is a traded built html in a zip file with these links...

I am supprised no one has made the effort to make a distributed web page or text pad full of verified links to files yet and posted it...

-infringer-