If yes, it can be use to establish forum or else....
ants should make normal websites like www.google.com readable.
for the chinese people wanting to read cnn.com
You mean though Ants we can access normal website as Yahoo, google or else?
May be you get me wrong, I want to ask if I can create a website with apache-php and being readable through Ants' http server section...
See my post here about setting up an Http server on ants
http://www.zeropaid.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=24944
On ants once you install apache, you can host webpages that will be viewable within ants anonymously. The webpage info will travel through other nodes to maintain you security by give you denyability.
A note of caution. When doing this you should put up a filewall blocking apache traffic and allowing JWS (ants). This will leave only one possible way for the info on the webpage to get out, Ants. If you do not do this , it is possible for someone who knows your ip address and the file name of the webpage you are hosting to view it outsde of ants via your direct ip address. This would not be an anonymous sitiuation. I find this rather tought to do in my tests, but it is posible.
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Yes, apache-hosted php will work in ants as well as html does. The execution of the files takes place on the server (your hosting pc) so it is just a matter of piping the information through ants instead of standard http. So yes, you could set up a php forum and run it exclusively through ants; it would be significantly slower than they already are on the internet however.
Good warning about blocking the normal apache connections tsafa1.
Thx you guys for so valuable suggestion. Actually tsafa1 told us the most important security issue, that I personally have overlooked.
Originally Posted by xrobot
Yes this I would like to see in ants. It is important for china and easy to do for ants developer.
We need to clarify something. If you do not block apache access with firewall, it may be accessed by a google search. But, it will not be anonymous in that case because it will not be through ants. Apache will be serving it directly from your ip address to whoever is looking at your webpage. In my tests, i have not been able to do this anyway, so don't loose sleep over it, but it is posible.
If you block apache with a fire wall, and open for JWS (ants). You will force the web page info through Ants. In that case it will be anonymous, but there is currently no way to access it out side of ants. So google search will never find it. It would be great if a bridge was developed between ants and the regular internet. Then webpages could be published anonymously to the regular internet via ants. Someone sugested using I2P technology to do this. But this is a raw idea that needs further consideration.
Sorry, i did not understand the original question. yes you can use php in ants to host a forem. I have seen two instances where this was succesfully done. However, i have not seen those webpages up in a long time. I think it was more of a test that someone tried, but it can definetly be done.
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tsafa, the goal is not, that your webserver is available for ants-users and firefox-users.
the goal is, that an ants user can browse yahoo.com
so an ants client should connect to yahoo.com for another ants node in china.
this is all and simple.
Let me get this straight.
Xrobot, the poster who made this thread, wants to know if he can host a php forum or similar webpage arrangement using ants. ABC, your response, apparently misunderstanding the question, is that he should be able to use it to see yahoo. We kick in to answer the actual question, that yes he can use it for what he wants. You reply back that the goal is not to answer xrobot's question, but rather to proxy the web for you.
thanks for answering the question, as tsafa, if did not exactly understand the question of the thraed starter, as well i wanted to add the request of browsing not a server in ants but yahoo.de
Me not understanding the thread quite correctly is not more dangerous than tsafa not understanding reading yahoo... ;-)
But where were you at the beginning of this thread ?
Hey guys, no need to argue. Actually my question is answered anyway. But it is also interesting to see that Ants can work directly as TOR(tor.eff.org), without the hassle to install TOR and Proxvy.(i.e. visit regular website anonymously)
But Tsafa1, referring to your post:It seem impossible. Because the regular internet depend on ip address, if we want to publish Ants website accessable by the mass, at least we must have a static proxy ip for the frontend(or I am wrong?). Just like TOR and Freenet, the anonymous site have a non-standard URL(not in format of http://www.yahoo.com). May be Ants can develop a tiny plugin for regular internet broswer to enable it to read special URL of Ants. It is a viable and practice way. Actually there is such kind of plugin for browser to read Chinese domain(which is non-standard URL), that works in the suggested way above.It would be great if a bridge was developed between ants and the regular internet. Then webpages could be published anonymously to the regular internet via ants.
Tsafa, how do you find ants hosted webpages?
and aglo is it correct that you are now supporting this project (Ants)?
Read this http://antsp2p.sourceforge.net/antsp...onnections.htm for how to see the Ants hosted site.
Originally Posted by xrobot
yes. this theoretical bridge would have to be hosted by someone with a static ip who is running ants and the "bridge" program. This person would still have denyability becase he is only passing along. Naturly it would be smart of that person not to have any copyrighted material on his computer.
But.... someone may still figure out a way to do this with dynamic ip's. This is such a new area who knows how far inovation can go.
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