Centralized but Not idea

[SrBrunox]

would it still be illegal if there was a centralized site that provided information on legit torrents?

so say this whole Exeem or iTrak happens, it seems like the main issue is the possibility of being flooded with fake torrents.

Isnt there a way to develop a system so that the submitter of the torrent can provide information that would be helpful to filter out fakes?

Just an idea, please respond cuz the faster we get something working the sooner we can laugh again,

[Compy]

Just to remind you, iTrak is currently on whitepaper seeing as we have a list of the downsides of exeem, and we hope to work those out, so give it some time.

However yes that is also a concern is filtering out fakes, thats what happened with Fasttrack and ive seen it on gnutella.

[infringer]

Basically the validity of someones claims are not supported until that person basically shows that his word is worth something as with anything weather or not a link is valid will always be an issue for sure. It is only through time and personal knowladge of a subject which one could decide whole heartedly weather an articale or content is valid or worthy.

Some things that aid in the decision is the ability to rate something though ratings can be skewed as well for the most part it is a very honest system.

There are blog torrent sites out there already providing information which is legal. But in truth allowed rating of these types of torrents should be implemented as it could turn into the next Star or Enquirerer paper.


-infringer-

[Hornet]

would it still be illegal if there was a centralized site that provided information on legit torrents?

so say this whole Exeem or iTrak happens, it seems like the main issue is the possibility of being flooded with fake torrents.

Isnt there a way to develop a system so that the submitter of the torrent can provide information that would be helpful to filter out fakes?

Just an idea, please respond cuz the faster we get something working the sooner we can laugh again,

Not sure I understand you - if you want legal torrents check out http://www.runbutcanthide.com/.

If you want a system to avoid fakes then I would suggest that developers include a voting system. So that downloaders can see what other users think of a file.

Hornet

[WillemB]

Hmm nowhere do i hear people about incentives. I'm working on this approach (25years of research and nobody knows about it)

Fake files can be reduced. Check this out.

If somehow every peer has a rating on it's participation. Uploading gives the peer a higher rating and dowloading will lower this rating. The higher the rating the faster you get to download.

Downloading crap will fuck up a rating and make people think twice before downloading something they know doesn't exist. Uploading crap will increase participation but will cost vast ammounts of bandwidth.

Using comments on resources you can notify other users not to download crap.

The usage of FileTracker websites or systems people can download verified resources.



Working on a system that does this

[Afn]

Hmm nowhere do i hear people about incentives. I'm working on this approach (25years of research and nobody knows about it)

Fake files can be reduced. Check this out.

If somehow every peer has a rating on it's participation. Uploading gives the peer a higher rating and dowloading will lower this rating. The higher the rating the faster you get to download.

Downloading crap will fuck up a rating and make people think twice before downloading something they know doesn't exist. Uploading crap will increase participation but will cost vast ammounts of bandwidth.

Using comments on resources you can notify other users not to download crap.

The usage of FileTracker websites or systems people can download verified resources.



Working on a system that does this

Emule has a good system, it could be improved with a better easier to use rating system, but the only problem with Emule is that Emule is slow. If you could modify how the system downloads, an give it dc++ and torrent functionality using existing emule code, I think you have a winning system.

The last thing the industry wants is decentralized torrent servers, were every client is a server, and every server is a client.

[WillemB]

The last thing the industry wants is decentralized torrent servers, were every client is a server, and every server is a client.

I don't agree with this. This is exactly what we want. If all upload and all download the world of P2P would be a better place. If you want a server-client setup where servers are plentyful then your hoping for a miracle or you have loads of cash to spend on servers and are prepared to stick your neck out.

Emule is slow for one reason. Low ammount of servers. If all would upload all shit they download then the emule system would be much faster. Second possible reason your referring to is the search algortihm.

[Afn]

I don't agree with this. This is exactly what we want. If all upload and all download the world of P2P would be a better place. If you want a server-client setup where servers are plentyful then your hoping for a miracle or you have loads of cash to spend on servers and are prepared to stick your neck out.

Emule is slow for one reason. Low ammount of servers. If all would upload all shit they download then the emule system would be much faster. Second possible reason your referring to is the search algortihm.

Emule is slow because of it's queing system. The industry I am refering to is the entertainment industry, not the p2p industry.

Wide scale search, intermediate system that shows demand for a file and an intelligent system of fast file transfer for mass distribution and quck distribution of requests. If hollywood breaks the search and request system, p2p is going to not grow as fast as it should if it did not have greedy hollywood trying to make every living room into a pay-per-view Nazi box office orgasm.

[WillemB]

Decentralized systems will remain slow nomatter how much code you throw at it. What should be envisioned instead of a queue system .... Queueing is fair.

Floodsearches can always be used(highly inefficient). The military uses them to navigate messages between tanks where one can easily be killed in battle. That means it's ideal for our purposes although i'd go for the server approach as emule.

[Afn]

Decentralized systems will remain slow nomatter how much code you throw at it. What should be envisioned instead of a queue system .... Queueing is fair.

Floodsearches can always be used(highly inefficient). The military uses them to navigate messages between tanks where one can easily be killed in battle. That means it's ideal for our purposes although i'd go for the server approach as emule.

When your looking for file X, that might only be shared by 5 people, floodsearch is the only way your going to find it. Unless you know of another way. I do, but I am not telling until I get the capital I need to write the actual implementation myself.

[WillemB]

So far helping P2P by not expressing your ideas.


Emule uses a more advanced method which happens to be easily imlemented.

All clients log on to a server.

Client A requests search
Server S polls all it's clients for a result and verifies them
Server S forwards all replies back to A

Then to make it more global the server can poll all it's other servers.