Onion Routing Averts Prying Eyes

**tamarisk** · August 5th, 2004, 04:31 AM

Computer programmers are modifying a communications system, originally developed by the U.S. Naval Research Lab, to help Internet users surf the Web anonymously and shield their online activities from corporate or government eyes.

http://www.wired.com/news/privacy/0,1848,64464,00.html

**Afn** · August 5th, 2004, 06:43 AM

Originally Posted by tamarisk

Computer programmers are modifying a communications system, originally developed by the U.S. Naval Research Lab, to help Internet users surf the Web anonymously and shield their online activities from corporate or government eyes.

"The reason Tor works is that it's free and available software," said Dingledine. "If it was a closed source or a proprietary system, there is no way to know."

http://www.wired.com/news/privacy/0,1848,64464,00.html

Open Source is better.

**mxpwx** · August 5th, 2004, 08:42 AM

honestly should not the navy be doing more important things, well p2p is pretty important

**FrozenShadow23** · August 5th, 2004, 09:30 AM

It's what the navy WAS doing, and I doubt that their intention was to provide this to the public.

Afn, you seem to think open source is better than everything. I happen to like open source, but I don't live in the dream world that you do where programmers and developers don't need to make money from their work. What do you do for a living? It's like saying that you're gonna open source that. You don't make money unless people decide to donate to you, and everyone can see what you're doing. Maybe it's good in an ideal world, but we don't happen to live in one of those. I love to see open source and I encourage it, but christ, realize that not everything can be open source.

**Afn** · August 5th, 2004, 05:01 PM

Originally Posted by FrozenShadow23

It's what the navy WAS doing, and I doubt that their intention was to provide this to the public.

Afn, you seem to think open source is better than everything. I happen to like open source, but I don't live in the dream world that you do where programmers and developers don't need to make money from their work. What do you do for a living? It's like saying that you're gonna open source that. You don't make money unless people decide to donate to you, and everyone can see what you're doing. Maybe it's good in an ideal world, but we don't happen to live in one of those. I love to see open source and I encourage it, but christ, realize that not everything can be open source.

I never said that everything will be open source. I think open source is going to make most proprietary closed source software obsolete. It will not happen overnite, over many years open code has advantages over closed source.

IBM can open millions of lines of closed source and still make a profit.

If you can't sell your code that you write, then you need to think in what service you provide.

As for the US NAVY, they are more interested in creating software where development is open so they can study, classify and reverse engineer the system for national security and intel gathering.

**sicknote** · August 5th, 2004, 05:11 PM

Afn i can stare at that little movie you have at the bottom of your post`s for ages. What is it?
Where did you get it?

**Omyn** · August 5th, 2004, 05:23 PM

Thats some movie clips from Terminator 3, I didnt think the movie was all that great but it did have some nice fight scenes.

**crackerjacker** · August 5th, 2004, 05:50 PM

um not going to work
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It is same concept of mute
the idea of using other people on this distributed type network set in a node
will not matter, the data will still be sent through the other nodes but really the original ip address will
still be seen unless its in a proxy format.
And by that time said proxy that is diverting the transfer will in turn be liable.
cheers
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**Afn** · August 6th, 2004, 04:12 AM

Originally Posted by sicknote

Afn i can stare at that little movie you have at the bottom of your post`s for ages. What is it?
Where did you get it?

I found it at:

http://easyrider.no.sapo.pt/avatar/explosivo.gif

Just make an IMG link... that is what I did. I wanted to make it my avatar, but the filesize is too large.

If the movie is annoying, let me know and I will remove it. I only had the little movie on the bottom of my signature for about a week.

**shawners** · August 6th, 2004, 05:39 AM

it was cause the RIAA forced the navy from monitoring its networks and keeping them from downloading songs.. Good job guys.. mission success! Onion, i get it! Makes your eyes watery where you cant see. Man these guys are on the roll!