To the mods and members of Zeropaid, a moment (dont cry cause its only truthful)

[moneoa]

For the community concerning mods:
The only problem I can see here is the percived problem of mods supposedly being Nazi's
and lamers who refuse to acknowledge they are a part of the problem
Now one mod was run off, yes run off because of relentless attempts to potray him as the devil.
The truth is he was just a dude with his own opinion on whats appropriate or not.
Whats the big fucking surprise?
Mods will moderate and all have thier own opinions and outlooks on how to do things.
Its called being an individual.
Rickio is right, there ARE some lame threads (some of which I am guilty for posting in)
and while I am thinking this is not a problem when just on occasion
but when it happens like it happens here aka "ALL AT ONCE" it becomes a problem.

The simple fact is mods have to go through old threads and clean up, this is part of what
a mod does. If they didnt work on our behalf keeping them clean the forum would be a goddamn wasteland,
so some of us need to get off of the
"Mods are responsible for the stupid shit I post" trains.
Fact is my friend if you didnt post the needless/useless thread a mod wouldnt have to wipe your nose
and start a spate of bitching that mods arbitrarily close threads. For your comparison:
You are in the middle of a mass babysit and the kids wont stop fucking around and throwing shit everywhere,
forcing the parent figure to clean up ALL the time.
Now picture not really getting paid for it. Not very fucking stellar is it? :shoot
I think its important to note as well that the majority of posters here ARE responsible.
The lame threads aren't a constant. They come in waves (anyone else notice?)
for MONTHS its all decent then the boards fill with crap
(usually prompted by one thread that makes others post silly ones)

For the Senior Members:
None of you deserve to be banned but your cynisim tends to rub of in the extreme, for
example when posting on a newbies thread titled "Kazaa?"
Yes we ALL know Kazaa sucks balls but this person might not.
There are plenty of polite ways to inform without flaming and
then being "whoops buddy, its just a joke after all" Well maybe to one party but the new
guy who is not familliar with you would probably feel dejected after 1-2 of them from seniors.
If you have nothing positive to say about it then "don't" Most of the time there is someone in the forum more than happy to answer.
Case and point an es5 thread the other day "dude said whats up with this" potato who simply pointed the way to thier forum and said
"if you have questions, try here" Used to be in the days of yore the mere mention of es5 would start a wild flaming torrent of shit.
Diplomacy works wonders though and its entirely possible to politely warn about the shitty merits of a prog while still giving them the info they ask for.
Let them find out themselves how lame it is.
This should be followed by a notation that I have no prob with any of the supposed
"a$$hole$" Like LOTD poninted out, not everyone has these "rough" inital experinces.
So its not like its systemic..so banning is really not necissary. :bling

For the rest of us:
This is a place to ask questions, if people have a problem with that then dont start
thinking your shit doesn't stink too. Odds are you came here at the start to ask a question.
Thats why we are here, to help while having fun doing it.
If thats too much for you find a crappy forum where the mods are useless and its full of shit because of no maintenance
and a long line of smelly twat eaters posting anything that comes in on a fart in the wind.
but hey, you could do what you like right? :shoot

To the Mods:
Thank you very much for your efforts in making this site a good one by
enforcing the rules but being fair when warrented and letting posters goof off every once in a while. :goodjob
Janett, CH you two really do give off the vibe of enjoyment when you help people.
Its done without cause and with compassion when needed and we need more human beings like that in the world
(the previous statement applies to hunter as well, I know your not a mod anymore but you deserve the cudos just as much)
and thank you Rickio for not lecturing some of us on being asses even though some of us deserved it.

To Jorge
Thank you for your efforts with this site, without zeropaid the small but diverse
community of p2p sites would be a little smaller and a little more dull.
Your site has come a long way and it adds to the richness of the landscape,
some might bitch but I can be confident when I say the majority of us DO
appreciate the little space you set up here for us.

I figured with the "why the hell" thread that SOMEBODY needed to take a fresh
outlook on it. You know this pretty much means there IS NO PROBLEM here
with the exception of some dramatics that might be better left to
"Days of our Lives"

Happy fathers day everyone and I sincerely hope you all have a fab day

Peace! :tilted

[shawners]

wheres my thank you? ? Do i not bleed when bleeding?? Do i not cry when tears are tearing.. DO i not feel when my body goes numb? Tuesday im going to reserve a thread to be used. It be good news.. It may not be posted depending on what happens. But i will tell you when im ready.

[method]

Uh... okay.. so a mod disappeared and now people are finding that threads with non-republican views remain open rather than getting closed for no decent reason... really.. what a shame!!

The majority of mods are appreciated for their work. If I'm assuming correctly, we're talking about seph.. his good modding was appreciated too... it was just the volume of unnecessary action for trivial reasons. Although I did want him to chill on thread-closing - I never said I wanted to see him go or expressed any opinion that he should be unwelcome anywhere... just that closing a thread because it contradicts your political beliefs is not right.

[moneoa]

Uh... okay.. so a mod disappeared and now people are finding that threads with non-republican views remain open rather than getting closed for no decent reason... really.. what a shame!!

The majority of mods are appreciated for their work. If I'm assuming correctly, we're talking about seph.. his good modding was appreciated too... it was just the volume of unnecessary action for trivial reasons. Although I did want him to chill on thread-closing - I never said I wanted to see him go or expressed any opinion that he should be unwelcome anywhere... just that closing a thread because it contradicts your political beliefs is not right.

The thread is NOT about Seph, he was just another example of dramatics
and the results of
what I am talking about is this perception that something is "seriously wrong" here
Read the whole post, the only thing wrong here is people blowing crap out of proportion
and then blaming it on the nine hells. People point at the senior members and say
"its them, then some look at the mods and say "its them"
"somethings gotta give"

Its all crap though, none of this is needed.
there is no scooby doo mystery its all a matter of courtesy and respect

[nasrules]

I hate to say it, but there are things 'seriously wrong' with most communities, and with 200,000+ members, conflict is to be expected.

[alliercollins]

I don't want to judge your approach or the whole thread itself. It's not my place to question the mods or the site. One thing though that you brought up that Iw as thinking about myself was the scaring off of new members. People who ask questions without searching shouldn't be yelled at or run off, they should be taught what to do in a nice manner and we should try to answer their questions.

We have to come to realize that all new file sharers are drawn to kazaa for the simple reason that it is the biggest and best known file sharing program that still exists, while also being the longest running at this point, as far as I know. I mean napster was the first and everyone moved to the kazaa, morpheus, and grokster after. People go to it and we need to sit down, explain their options, and allow them to make an educated choice.

I don't mind answering every single thread individually. It assures that threads stay updated, stay small, and stay up in the forums so that people can read them. I welcome a "noob" coming in each week to say something about kazaa so the rest of the "noobs" for the rest of the week will have something to learn from.

It bothers me also that people seem to hate the best of threads and always will point to past ones. You have to remember, what is the best this week may not be the best next week. Software changes, opinions change, and so forth. Who cares if someone starts a new one every day. Back before Limewire went ads free, many people would not mention that in a thread for best of Gnutella apps, but they day after it would have been spammed all over that thread. If someone comes to Zeropaid now and asks what is the best Gnutella client, do we point them to that thread or try to talk about what is the best today?

People just have to remember that software changes and there will always be new people looking for that software. It doesn't just go for software, but you get the point. The best way to educate people is to help them individually, so they can strengthen the community. I don't think that scaring them off or pointing them to outdated threads are going to help them in the long run.

Here is just an example to back up what I am trying to say:

http://www.zeropaid.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=20818

[moneoa]

I hate to say it, but there are things 'seriously wrong' with most communities, and with 200,000+ members, conflict is to be expected.

This is part of my point, rather than open up a hundred + posts on "the problem"
realise alot of it is just a part of life. Aside from whining about it, have an open mind.

[Psilaxs]

Where is all this talk of problems coming from? it seems rather contrived as if someone is trying to start trouble.

We have not been having ANY trouble so to speak since it was dealt with a couple of months ago.

Crazyhorse Rickio Jennet and The Hunter have been busting their ass keeping the forums running smoothly. All the time they spend on this board working because it is a labor of love.

[moneoa]

I don't want to judge your approach

The only reason I did it this way man was to put the point out.
I knew if I went into one of the endless threads full of moaning about how the site works
and posted this it would recieve a short glance.

I just felt it had to be said.

[moneoa]

Where is all this talk of problems coming from? it seems rather contrived as if someone is trying to start trouble.

We have not been having ANY trouble so to speak since it was dealt with a couple of months ago.

Crazyhorse Rickio Jennet and The Hunter have been busting their ass keeping the forums running smoothly. All the time they spend on this board working because it is a labor of love.

Thats why I said thank you, I didnt burn anyone in my post.
Just listed some observations because such threads still pop up
like the recent one concerning posts, it turned into a table session
on how its not right to delete some threads. Then someone alluded it was heavy handed moderating.

so rather than try to dig shit I am just saying we can all help cut some and
give props to all the people who make this site good,

[crackerjacker]

Where is all this talk of problems coming from? it seems rather contrived as if someone is trying to start trouble.

We have not been having ANY trouble so to speak since it was dealt with a couple of months ago.

Crazyhorse Rickio Jennet and The Hunter have been busting their ass keeping the forums running smoothly. All the time they spend on this board working because it is a labor of love.

i want steak for dinner with french fries and a nice salad pick up the tab for me psi? thanks
love and peace

[moneoa]

and again I am not talking about how things were "fixed" a few months ago.
Get off of the fact I mentioned said person as an EXAMPLE
I was trying to potray how silly it can become.
Still is kinda.

[shawners]

Yeah i feel that if our main members who post was more noobfriendly and curtious. I think their be 20 times as much members posting. And more pages of insight.

[Psilaxs]

and again I am not talking about how things were "fixed" a few months ago.
Get off of the fact I mentioned said person as an EXAMPLE
I was trying to potray how silly it can become.
Still is kinda.

I know, My post was a supplement to yours, not directed at you. I still see posts every now and then about people complaining etc when things are so much better than they used to be. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

[moneoa]

http://www.zeropaid.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=20884

This recent thread for example, obviously Rickio had something to say
this is also why I did thank them and let them know its appreciated