CRIA seeking names of 29 canadians for song swapping

[Siskabush]

"The Canadian Recording Industry Association has kicked off what promises to be a lengthy battle against online music sharing, and the first hurdle may be the most difficult to clear.

The CRIA has asked a number of Internet service providers to hand over contact information for customers it suspects of "egregious" uploading of music files. But at least one of those companies, Calgary-based Shaw Communications, says it intends to oppose the CRIA, citing new federal privacy laws that protect its customers.

"We're absolutely compelled under the privacy act not to provide that information," Shaw Communications president Peter Bissonnette told The Globe and Mail.

Arguments in the case begin Monday at a federal court in Toronto.

Working on behalf of major record labels, the CRIA is reportedly hunting for 29 Canadian customers from at least five different ISPs, including Shaw, Telus Corp., Rogers Cable, Bell Canada's Sympatico service and Quebec's Videotron.

So far, Shaw is the only ISP to openly oppose the CRIA's request. The company provides high-speed Internet service to about 900,000 Canadians.

Record labels contend that online file sharing violates copyright law and has hurt sales of albums and singles. Supporters of it say it stimulates demand for music and say the industry is to blame for falling sales.

The CRIA's search follows the lead of the Recording Industry Association of America, which has sued some 400 individuals in the United States. On both sides of the border, the recording industry is targeting computer users who upload musical files, not those who download songs.

In December, a California court ruled that the recording industry could not force ISPs to identify customers unless it launched a formal lawsuit and obtained a subpoena.

Such a ruling might be considered by a Canadian judge, but would not be a binding precedent.

There are also doubts about whether lawsuits against file sharers will be successful here, since Canadian laws on reproducing music for personal use differ from those in the United States.

For example, it has been legal in Canada since 1998 to make a single copy of a recording for personal use, such as copying a CD onto your hard drive or MP3 player. But the practice is illegal in the U.S.

But under the Copyright Act, it remains illegal to give or sell a CD copy to a friend, since it's not for personal use. In the same vein, distributing copies to friends online is prohibited.

Each of the ISPs involved in the case have reacted differently to the CRIA's request.

While Shaw is adamantly opposed, Telus says it plans to ask for an adjournment while Rogers remains undecided on a course of action.

Videotron is in a unique position because its parent company, Quebecor, also sells music, Videotron says it is concerned about copyright protection and considers file sharing to be "theft."
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNew...4/?hub=SciTech

Good thing im with Shaw. Anyway, it looks like the CRIA wants to seal its fate like the RIAA has, and alienate all thier customers.

Im sorry CRIA, but I dont want to hear Justin timberlake, or Brittney spears or any of that pap pap crap or "Punk-oldie remixes". You guys dont provide the music I want to hear (and many others), so im (we're) gonna keep downloading.

[Malicious Intent]

I can believe the cheek of it. Canadians are already charged for transfer of data that may or may not belong to a music artist of theirs through taxation. Just to make sure that they get the "may" people properly screwed they do this?
Perhaps they are trying to amke a point against all the reports that downloading music in Canada is legal? If it is a knee jerk reaction to that, then they run a risk of losing and proving that uploading and downloading is legal.

[RJ5500]

Ah, the CRIA wants to be exactly like the RIAA.

One things for certain. If the CRIA actually starts doing RIAA-style lawsuits, all hell will break loose amoungst music fans in Canada.

The 'music industry' boycott will be in full force. The last shred of any remaining good PR image that the CRIA has will be destroyed.

No logical business sues it's own customers.

[Dividend]

They should've just sat back and stayed happy with their CD-R and iPod levies. Unlike in the RIAA's case, the law isn't even fully on their side.

I honestly can't see how they think they're going to benefit from this.

[Xperience]

...and start hacking the CRIA and burning shit!

Damn Sympatico better not give me up im a half ta step security up on this bitch!

Everyone with Fat Pipes should DoS them bastards!

Ithought this would never happen in canada, but o boy am i wrong!

And im pissed!

Lets burn Flags!


"...and as Canadians you must promise to protect canada from its natural enemy Quebec and sometimes Alberta" - Comedy INC.

LMAO

[kita]

they can have my mp3s when they pry them from my cold dead fingers :shoot

[killswitch1968]

[QUOTE=SiskabushIm sorry CRIA, but I dont want to hear Justin timberlake, or Brittney spears or any of that pap pap crap or "Punk-oldie remixes". You guys dont provide the music I want to hear (and many others), so im (we're) gonna keep downloading.[/QUOTE]

No but you download other rubbish corporate music. The solution is not to upload and thereby giving them a legal advantage. See my sig.

[RJ5500]

Without uploading, P2P cannot exist.

[jetson0022]

i'm about to write my MP... this is quite the BS

[Killawat]

Looooooooooooooooooooooooool

[thegreatjoejoe]

well now the candians now what the americans went through.

[Ken17625]

Without uploading, P2P cannot exist.

Ding ding ding. Killswitch is a troll, that has somehow managed to play the borderline of temp ban/ban.

His plans, call for you to not download music you want to listen to (for whatever reason).

Assbackwards? Or Industry troll?

If you like music, made by some entity, that is under the control of the RIAA (or other), what do you do? Stop listening? That's a dumb waste of time. Music is meant to be heard, and I really don't want to sacrifice the purpose of me listening to it (enjoyment), to make some stupid statement (besides, I don't have time for that, and music is not life or death to me). I'm already making my statement, with P2P. Anything I find exceptional, I BUY. Anything I don't, I won't buy (but maybe I'll keep it around, on my hard drive.......for others to "have"). Lawsuits are irrelevant. People either find safety in odds, or they find other avenues (private friend circles, etc....).

Long story short, don't let trolls tell you the best "plan of action".

Especially if they are so obvious. Make em work at it a little! More entertaining hair-brain "schemes".

[RJ5500]

Ding ding ding. Killswitch is a troll, that has somehow managed to play the borderline of temp ban/ban.

His plans, call for you to not download music you want to listen to (for whatever reason).

Assbackwards? Or Industry troll?

If you like music, made by some entity, that is under the control of the RIAA (or other), what do you do? Stop listening? That's a dumb waste of time. Music is meant to be heard, and I really don't want to sacrifice the purpose of me listening to it (enjoyment), to make some stupid statement (besides, I don't have time for that, and music is not life or death to me). I'm already making my statement, with P2P. Anything I find exceptional, I BUY. Anything I don't, I won't buy (but maybe I'll keep it around, on my hard drive.......for others to "have"). Lawsuits are irrelevant. People either find safety in odds, or they find other avenues (private friend circles, etc....).

Long story short, don't let trolls tell you the best "plan of action".

Especially if they are so obvious. Make em work at it a little! More entertaining hair-brain "schemes".

Exactly!
:fire

[Siskabush]

"No but you download other rubbish corporate music. The solution is not to upload and thereby giving them a legal advantage. See my sig."

You know what? I do NOD DOWNLOAD corporate music. just the parody tunes (saddam from iraq)

I really hate people who assume. youre telling me I download stuff like Jenny from the block, or shut up. I hate that music so much, i have even boycotted the club that is in my city.

So fuck you for assuming. I am a trance addict.

[Xperience]

You tell em "Stick it to the man!"

We canadians dont care about the RIAA/CRIA!!!

THEY ARE A JOKE!