quality loss from burning cd?

**Dswissmiss** · February 7th, 2004, 10:57 AM

Hi, quick question
I had a cd on my hard drive which was at 192kbps, but when I burned it using nero, it fell to 140kbps, according to Winamp at least. Does this always happen, or just with mp3's? Is there anyway I can avoid this?

Thank you
Dswissmiss

**Spongebob Squarepants** · February 7th, 2004, 01:52 PM

maybe it was wav and then got reencoded by nero. did you go 'save as mp3' or something. how was the cd on your hard drive saved as.

**shawners** · February 7th, 2004, 02:03 PM

wait wait wait. If you play it at 192 as a MP3.. It shouldnt play anywhere low as a wav file. Wav file isnt compressed and should be alot higher.

**Drew22** · February 7th, 2004, 02:20 PM

shawners
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*True*

**Dswissmiss** · February 8th, 2004, 11:10 AM

Well, its a winamp media file on the hard drive (not sure how to find out if its mp3 or not). Basically, when I play the file off the hard drive using winamp it says on winamp that its 192kbps. When I play it off the cd using winamp, it says 140kbps.

**CompuGeek** · February 8th, 2004, 12:18 PM

Originally Posted by Dswissmiss

Well, its a winamp media file on the hard drive (not sure how to find out if its mp3 or not). Basically, when I play the file off the hard drive using winamp it says on winamp that its 192kbps. When I play it off the cd using winamp, it says 140kbps.

14H = 1411kbps = CD Quality = 44.1KHz (sample rate) x 16-bit x 2 (stereo)

:sw

**ducttapeBigSexy** · February 8th, 2004, 03:33 PM

To figure out if it's an mp3 or not, under XP's Windows explorer (any window that's open), click Tools, Folder Options. Then go under the View tab, and uncheck the box marked "Hide extensions for known file types." If there's an ".mp3" after the file name, it's an mp3. ".wma" = Windows Media Audio, ".ogg" means Ogg Vorbis, and so on. To get the extensions back, just recheck that box.

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**WRFan** · February 8th, 2004, 04:07 PM

you can't always go by bitrate. do you think a 720kb wav file has a better quality than a 320kb mp3? wrong! 720=mono, while if you've downloaded a 320kb mp3 from kazaa, big chance is you've got a high quality stereo file.

If you burn an audiocd, then no quality change occurs, the respective burning programme just decodes the mp3 files, creating 1411kb wav files and then burning them on cd in audio format, but it's basically the same file you've got on cd, 1411kb quality.

of course, this means nothing, cause if the wav file was decoded from a 128kb mp3 and then burned on cd, then quality is stil shitty, even if it's got 1411kb. 'cause 1411-128=1283kb were lost when the original cd was ripped to mp3.

Since the human ear can clearly distinguish everything below 320kb (although I am no audio professional, I can hear a difference between a 256kb and a 320kb file in direct comparison), I suggest you all get only files = or above 320kb quality. Everything below will diminish your experience when listening to the music

**method77** · February 8th, 2004, 04:53 PM

Hey kids! Read what Compugeek posted

**CompuGeek** · February 8th, 2004, 06:08 PM

Originally Posted by method77

Hey kids! Read what Compugeek posted

People only read posts with vague guesses.

When you post the exact correct answer to a technical question people pretend they don't see it.

**xxleasxx** · February 14th, 2004, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by CompuGeek

People only read posts with vague guesses.

When you post the exact correct answer to a technical question people pretend they don't see it.

they just didnt understand what you meant...

**CompuGeek** · February 14th, 2004, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by xxleasxx

they just didnt understand what you meant...

Sorry about all the math before.
:fire

**Spongebob Squarepants** · February 14th, 2004, 03:32 PM

I was thinking the cd might be a data disk and that he's edited the 192 and saved the changes with mp3 pro, not realising it's reencoding and to a lower bit rate.