Time to switch to .ogg

**nny0000** · January 11th, 2004, 07:07 PM

Since Mp3's are patented and are the target of new DRM tactics, i think we should move to the open souce patent free .ogg format. Any ideas?

**The Hunter** · January 11th, 2004, 07:13 PM

Not for me, as i dont have a portable .ogg player.

**DainBramaged** · January 11th, 2004, 07:36 PM

Umm... no. Firstly, .mp3 has been widely adopted as the de facto format. Secondly, DRM will be cracked, so it's not so much of an issue.

**isus** · January 11th, 2004, 07:50 PM

drm is not used on mp3's.

it's used on wma (most music stores) and aac (iTMS).

**hawkburn** · January 11th, 2004, 07:58 PM

Originally Posted by DainBramaged

Umm... no. Firstly, .mp3 has been widely adopted as the de facto format. Secondly, DRM will be cracked, so it's not so much of an issue.

DRM on wma's has been cracked... at least I thought that was in the news a while ago anyway.

**Aaron73153** · January 11th, 2004, 08:10 PM

I say go to OGG because I always support open-source software.

**Contra** · January 11th, 2004, 08:26 PM

I recommend switching to APE files.. I did two years ago and have not looked back..

**shawners** · January 11th, 2004, 08:32 PM

it wouldnt hurt to use .ogg on new networks since riaa is batching fake files, and hashes.. or hosting fake titles in mp3 format. I know its mostly on Kazaa but im sure its on other networks, just not as bad or gets on to othernetworks if no one deletes it from kazaa or shared folders before useing.

**collideous** · January 11th, 2004, 08:53 PM

Not just yet! As long as MP3 players don't support it, there's no way I'd ever switch.

**origin** · January 11th, 2004, 09:15 PM

It is all a matter of perception for each of us User(s) in the p2p world. You might decide that the .ogg media file is better than mp3's and should be used more diveresly (traded) amongst more users on popular networks(witch is fine we are intitled to our own opinions right? ;P). Now in my case I do not see no problem with the mp3 file format, it does have it's ups and downs just like most other media formats but still manages to avail. Some things are best left behind the curtain and not put too much in public view because once the wildfire catchs and begins to become popular all of the problems the previous media had it will too! because popularity attracts both poisitive and negative attention so most of the .ogg users should be happy for now and later that most of the heat comes down on mp3 file format. Until the ogg or other more sophisticated formats arise I am a Mp3 man :aim

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**Netaku** · January 11th, 2004, 09:26 PM

The number of mp3 players that support Ogg Vorbis is steadily increasing.

Shit, I have the 20 gig Rio Karma, and that supports OGG and FLAC. I've had it for a couple of weeks now, and it's great.

XtraNtnse · January 11th, 2004, 09:48 PM

Since it's along the lines of this subject I may as well ask here.. is there a way to rip napster's protected wma's? or do they have to be converted to a different format? if so what program could I use?

**RJ5500** · January 11th, 2004, 10:15 PM

I'd switch to .mp4 before I'd go to .ogg.

Based on my experience with ripping audio into ultra HQ .ogg and .mp4, .mp4 files take up a third less disk space for the same high quality sound.

**tamarisk** · January 12th, 2004, 01:13 AM

Ogg's or any other format will become popular when you will be able to convert MP3 to OGG with only minor loss of quality.

Also OGG will become popular when portable mp3 players will also support OGG

**nip** · January 17th, 2004, 08:55 AM

Back then when MP3s came up, there were no MP3 players available either.

Now if OGG gets more and more attention as music format and we spread the word, there will also be OGG players available.