How sad is this, Anyone with a brain realizes that they are not losing any money by allowing independant dj's to use artists tracks in a mix. This is almost laughable. The US dance scene is struggling, and this is supposed to turn it around? lol!
They did the same to a guy in Australia. HE had mixed cd's and was putting them on the net and giving them away. And he got busted for copyright infringement.
Innovation will be stifled.
More proof that it is not talent but money which drives the big record companies.
shite. now they're fu(king with techno. now im getting pissed
ditto that! Seems like there attacking every avenue they can...How can they call dj's who purchase vinyl themselves and mix it a copyright 'infringement'? That's what the tracks are soley created for. Do they expect start-up dj's to create their own tracks?? That's the way it has been for years, and now they start complaining? fuc*ing idiots! This is yet another blow to the scene. Things have gotten really out of hand.Originally Posted by camoor
Well i understand why they do all these crazy lawsuits.
First of all if you lose billions of dollars because of people downloading and not buying then obviously you would want to get all your money back.
You would do the same if you were the owner of the recording industry, hell i would. What? You think millions of dollars is not a lot to lose.
If you deny it, then you are crazy...nobody even wants to pay 15 - 20 dollars on a cd, now imagine losing millions of dollars after a successful business that you own.
Kevin - I wouldnt do that, I would market a solution that makes everyone happy, the customer, the artist, and the label.
You cant go Jihad on your customers and expect them to stick around. You wont recoup your millions that way either. You gotta find a solution that satisfies everyone. Lower CD prices, stop the one hit wonder crap, and cut the north american music censorship barriers.
And now they are attacking techno/trance/dance. That pisses me off. They dont play it on the radio, they dont sell it in major record stores, and now they are taking it from the independent stores.
It seems that my theory is true, and they dont want anyone in north america listening to techno/trance/dance, just to systematically destroy comptetiton.
Im gonna download as much trance/techno as possible after work :D
Everyone knows here, that i love to get into debates and i always start them.
Whats the difference between rap, rock, metal etc. and techno, trance, house?
It's still copyrighted.
Hmm let me see. Here we have 3 rap stations, 7 rock stations, 2 of the rock stations play alot of metal and, wait whats that - no techno, trance, house? I guess I'll just go to the club to listen to some... o thats right - the RIAA took away all the mix CDs from my broke DJ.
Oh well, I guess I'll just listen to whatever "band of the month" the RIAA wants me to listen to. That Avril Lasagne is something, I'll gladly donate $20 to the RIAA's "sue em all" campaign for the priveledge of listening to something that they promise me is going to be popular. Never mind that my true soul loves house and trance, the RIAA's need to force wuss rock and corporate rap on me has convinced me that my musical tastes were misguided.
Check out this article from an indy record store owner...makes you wonder how the RIAA has that much control.
the music has gone to shite.. if it isnt some syntethic voiced teenager singing some 50 year old song its some dumb 30 year old woman with nothing better to do half drunk singing with some big fat horny guy moaning along in the background.. but some of it is still good
IF they release a CD of a song thats mixed by them, they should get royalty payment.. as well as permission from the original artist.. IF their playing it in a club, they dont deserve a dime.. THE Dj's getting payed to play and mix songs and create different versions of songs, the DJ is getting paid to do what he was asked to do. Perform.. PLus The recording isnt losing any money, they have so much ways to market, but their ignorant. Stupid thinking. Just cause i download it, really meant i never in million years would of purchased it. IF i have it and enjoy it, I would gladly pay the money for it. I would before they started sueing everyone. My money wont go to their pockets so they can sue my brother in the p2p community.
That's easier to say than to do, especially for a start-up dj who does not have a label yet. Some of the albums people create are indended for dj's to use at thier own discretion, as long as they purchase it on vinyl - spin it at clubs, make recordings. Alot of the origional album creaters know this sort of thing happens, but don't say anything because it helps thier track become popular. This has been going on for a long time, and nobody used to care 5-10 years ago. The RIAA's just trying to be bullies about things.
The labeled mix CDs are just easy targets. It's not like a P2P source so the can go right after that and shut it down easy... even though these mix CDs are on an absolutely misicule quantity scale compared to everything else.
I agree the mix CDs should be the DJs work. They put prolly more effort into the mix than a lot of new artists put into original material.
But where to draw the line...? I can make mix CDs too... I could run a couple tracks together, whip up some shit on Pro-Tools, and voila, there's my mix CD. I don't think I should be able to sell it for profit though.
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