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    If I hate the RIAA who do I vote for?

    Is there a list anywhere of the political parties or politicians that oppose the privacy invasion of the RIAA?

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    Try the ACLU or EFF.

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    ACLU is a joke, but definitally try the EFF.
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    Yeah www.eff.com has lists, very useful stuff.

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    Yeah I imagine if I emailed them, 2 or 3 weeks later they might send me the name of some politician who made some kind of a vague pro privacy, anti RIAA reference.

    Here's what I'm thinking though. I don't have the RIAA's bankroll. I can't buy laws. All I have is a vote. That's not much, but if I add it to the vast horde of p2p users, it becomes something.

    Surely somebody somewhere has thought of this. I want to find this organization and add my name to their voice. The voice becomes louder if we know who to vote for to express our will.

    Is that possible?

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    Originally posted by MoonMan
    ACLU is a joke, but definitally try the EFF.
    A person who proudly proclaims that they are an liberal on a regular basis considers the ACLU a joke.. Thats pretty funny.

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    Originally posted by Sephiroth
    A person who proudly proclaims that they are an liberal on a regular basis considers the ACLU a joke.. Thats pretty funny.
    Being a liberal does not necessarily mean you support EVERY liberal organization.. and I have dealt with the ACLU on a few occasions so I am basing my opinion on personal experience.
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    Originally posted by MoonMan
    Being a liberal does not necessarily mean you support EVERY liberal organization..
    Why not, you and every other person who proclaims their political affiliations constantly all assume that the others all support the extreemes and every single organization constantly.

    Just an example of what im talking about when im saying this has gone a little too far than voicing ones own opinion.

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    Originally posted by Sephiroth
    Why not, you and every other person who proclaims their political affiliations constantly all assume that the others all support the extreemes and every single organization constantly.

    Just an example of what im talking about when im saying this has gone a little too far than voicing ones own opinion.
    Hardly, don't group me up with everyone else because I state my views sometimes.

    Besides, if you don't like a particular opinion you can always delete it. You've done it in the past and you will do it again. What's stopping you now ?
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    One of the candidates endorsed by the EFF is Howard Dean.
    Great choice! Vote for him!
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    You vote for someone who supports Campaign Finance Reform and other money donation reform. Washington and Corporations are literally one in the same: One does favors for one and the other does favors for the other, leaving you the citizen left out. The poltians best weapon is our ignorance of whats happenning and even when we catch them phucking over us we are still dumb enough to give them the benefit of the doubt.

    I remember the days when liberals stood up for the least among us but now its seems they are as dirty as the Republicans.

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    Originally posted by MoonMan
    Besides, if you don't like a particular opinion you can always delete it. You've done it in the past and you will do it again. What's stopping you now ?
    You are just like everyone else. In fact you called conservatives Nazis and you took that cheap shot at me which is nothing new.

    If you have a problem with me instead of taking cheap shots and having your buddies all back you up when you start to get into trouble and acting all intimidated why dont you pm me or post it in the news crib and well settle whatever your problem is right now.

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    No new problems, and the news crib is for news discussions so I'd rather not take anything like that there as it does not belong there.

    BTW the nazi thing was a joke, as I know many conservatives and do have a few conservative views on things. Why do you always twist my words ?

    You seem awefully defensive though. Let's just drop our latest dispute here and now since continuing on will only lead to the eventual destruction of this thread. That's what I am gonna do anyway.
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    Vote for Dean

    Why? Because he's the likeliest Democrat to get elected (but no one is likely to beat Bush). And it's not safe or healthy for this country to have the president AND both houses of Congress in the same party - regardless of the party. No checks and balances. How many spending bills has Bush vetoed? NONE. There's still plenty of pork on those bills, maybe more than ever, but Bush likes big business and big business likes the pork, so no vetoes.

    A democratic president and a republican Congress is pretty cool. Congress fills the bills with pork, the president vetoes them, they trim some fat and try again, eventually the spending bill gets passed - minus all the taxpayer money flowing into unnecessary crap to prop up big businesses that can't compete fairly in the market, or who "just happen" to donate liberally to the republican cause. We had that with Clinton and it worked well: he vetoed his ass off, things got done, and the country didn't spiral into the Land Of Eternal Deficit.

    Too much power in the hands of EITHER party is just plain bad for everyone. And it's easier to replace the president than a pack of senators and congressmen.
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    I'd like to play a round of "Just suppose" for a sec.

    First of all, let's suppose a search engine existed that allowed people to search for what politicians did or didn't support the RIAA, along with statements they may have made on the subject.

    Suppose this search engine was quite popular, especially around election time.

    OK, now let's go back to the last election. As I recall, it pretty much came down to one final district, and the vote was tight.

    Suppose it turned out there was an anti-RIAA politician in that district. Suppose his party won. Suppose it also turned out there was an unusually high amount of hits from that district on the search engine I described.

    Would the RIAA still be goose-stepping through the internet suing 12 year olds, with the kind of impunity it now enjoys.

    I wonder...

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