Kazaa on Linux

[Power Penguin]

The exciting linux filesharing trilogy continues.
Except I can't think of part three. (WinMX on Linux perhaps)

I'm now trying to install Kazaa on Linux using Wine. Thus far, thanks to the documentation at Winehq.com I've got the thing installed and running from an RPM at sourceforge made for RH 9.0.

I've even managed to use the Terminal to uninstall it.
(I felt quite proud of this - my first uninstall).

Unfortunately I've broke it and as I don't have the expertise to fix it, I have to take a hammer to a peanut and install Red Hat again.

I know I installed it right because Notepad ran from the command line.

What DLLs do I have to install and where and what version of Kazaa will run?

I could get Setup to work. But it doesn't seem to have made a program directory, as my fake windows directory was empty.

I would like to hear from anyone that runs Kazaa regularly on Linux.

[phalkon30]

Is that possible? I guess I haven't heard of kazaa on linux

[isamoor]

It's entirely possible to run kazaa on linux.

Quick note: Sorry I gave you all that info on Mandrake/Urpmi earlier, I hope someone out there found it useful.


First, how to clear out wine. Just because you broke wine was no reason to reinstall. :) In linux, most damage is limited to the user only. If you had looked in your home directory and shown hidden files, there would have been a ".wine" directory. If you delete that, it's like you had never ran wine as a user. If you were running as root (bad) it's not so simple.


Now onto kazaa. I'm not going to try and explain it all here. It is possible, and not too difficult. There's a nice site out there that has some app specific help on kazaa and a nice forum to refer to for errors. Here's the site:

http://frankscorner.org/

Wine is not an easy app to work with just to warn you. It's one of the hardest things to deal with out there. Mainly because of the fact you have to have a fake registry, so you get all the headaches of windows tagged onto linux's own difficulties. Frank's corner is a great place for help though. Best of luck to you. Here's the exact kazaa page link:

http://frankscorner.org/kazaa_lite_2_1_0_build3.html

Later,

Isamoor

[isamoor]

And may I suggest his Wine Tools program from the site. It's packaged similar to bittorrent, but not with all the interfaces and extra crud in bittorrent. Just download the package and unpackage it and read the instructions. It does make working with wine somewhat manageable.

http://www.franksworld.net/winetools/

I hope you've tried out gtk-gnutella at least at this point. I feel gtkg puts almost all windows gnutella clients to shame. For music, you can max out your bandwidth with it for as long as you want. :)

Later,

Isamoor

[Power Penguin]

You already mention Franks corner, I followed his instructions to the letter I could not get it working.

Perhaps I will try his Tool (oo-eer).

When you said you were going to give instructions I thought you were going to give links to some actual dlls from Windows that would work.

BTW I logged on as root to do the installing. (Not bad, good). And there's no directory called .Wine in the user directory. I used the RPM for RedHat and it doesn't do that.

[isamoor]

Odd about the now .wine directory for the user. And yes, you do have to install the rpm as root, you are right, I shoudl have been more clear (it's late)

The wine tools should help you out it you get it working, I know it will create a .wine directory with the fake drive and all included in your users directory. If you mess up anything in there you can just clean it out.

Are you using the same version they used? That could make a difference. There haven't been any real improvements in Kazaa since 2.1 in my opinion anyway, but that's just pure opinion.

Hope you can get it working.

Best of luck.

Later,

Isamoor

[Dandermouse]

sorry if this is old info
Happen to have heard from someone in the know that there will be a linux version of kazaa coming...along with scheduled searches and so forth
D

[RJ5500]

Will,

You might try http://codigolivre.org.br/projects/klitelinux/

I know the site is in Brazillian, but it may help install Kazaa Lite in Linux.

I am trying to do the same thing, so I will personally try this site out and see if I have any success.


Edit: Just a heads up. This site is really slow. I'm on a dial-up and and not getting more than 1.5k/s.

Prepare to wait for a while to download files from this site.

[Theinfamousone]

Why don't they just build wine inately into Linux? If it was that easy to install Windows programs on Linux, everyone (that knows anything about computers) would immediately switch to linux and leave Windows behind, and we'd all be running on open source software. Microsoft would die and there would be hundreds of software companies popping up to take its place.

Whenever I hear people trying to install wine, winex, and then messing all around with screwy system files to get it to run, it just scares me away.

I would totally run linux myself but I have lots of games I want to play, like StarCraft and stuff and it would be difficult to run that. And software companies wouldn't have to worry about making special linux versions of their software and what not.

Obviously you'd probably need special drivers for hardware, but I could handle that.

[RJ5500]

Originally posted by Theinfamousone
Why don't they just build wine inately into Linux? If it was that easy to install Windows programs on Linux, everyone (that knows anything about computers) would immediately switch to linux and leave Windows behind, and we'd all be running on open source software. Microsoft would die and there would be hundreds of software companies popping up to take its place.

Whenever I hear people trying to install wine, winex, and then messing all around with screwy system files to get it to run, it just scares me away.

I would totally run linux myself but I have lots of games I want to play, like StarCraft and stuff and it would be difficult to run that. And software companies wouldn't have to worry about making special linux versions of their software and what not.

Obviously you'd probably need special drivers for hardware, but I could handle that.

My distribution of linux has wine pre-installed. That would be a good idea, to build Wine directly into linux. Like it has been mentioned, wine is not very user-friendly. I hope Wine gets a lot more R&D. I would like to see it someday where Windows applications run on linux as "flawlessly" or better than they do on Windows itself.

[RJ5500]

Alright.. The Brazillian site was a complete waste. All that installer shell script did was try to install the .exe of Kazaa Lite again. That didn't work.

Ok, this almost looks promising (but a bit lengthy).

It's at:

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...threadid=79318

[Sho0tyz]

Originally posted by Theinfamousone
Why don't they just build wine inately into Linux? If it was that easy to install Windows programs on Linux, everyone (that knows anything about computers) would immediately switch to linux and leave Windows behind, and we'd all be running on open source software. Microsoft would die and there would be hundreds of software companies popping up to take its place.

Whenever I hear people trying to install wine, winex, and then messing all around with screwy system files to get it to run, it just scares me away.

I would totally run linux myself but I have lots of games I want to play, like StarCraft and stuff and it would be difficult to run that. And software companies wouldn't have to worry about making special linux versions of their software and what not.

Obviously you'd probably need special drivers for hardware, but I could handle that.

Allow me to give my opinion. WINE is a useless piece of crap, that doesn't really help Linux. No matter how good WINE gets or how many programs it runs, it will ALWAYS be a step or two behind Microsoft. New versions of windows will continue to show up, along with new system calls, direct x, etc. There will always be software that is not usable on WINE.

The presence of WINE makes software developers complacent with Windows. "I don't need to make a Linux version, just use WINE" Native Linux applications will always be better than something running under WINE, yet WINE does nothing to encourage Linux software development and may even discourage it.

I hope I'm not slamming the newbies too hard here. The transition to Linux can be difficult, but there is very little reason to ever use WINE. Other than some games, there is almost always a Linux equivalent of the software you want to use. If you absolutely must run Windows software, why not just dual boot or run a second computer? It will certainly save you from all the setup hassles that WINE has.

[Theinfamousone]

Originally posted by RJ5500
My distribution of linux has wine pre-installed. That would be a good idea, to build Wine directly into linux. Like it has been mentioned, wine is not very user-friendly. I hope Wine gets a lot more R&D. I would like to see it someday where Windows applications run on linux as "flawlessly" or better than they do on Windows itself.

And what version are you using? I downloaded Lindows 4.0 since it sounds like I could handle it and I don't have to completely install it to see how it is, pretty nice actually, but I suddenly realized how much stuff I wouldn't be able to use anymore, Nero (how am I gonna burn DVDs?) Kazaa etc. Then all my games of course. Video editors, virtual dub etc.

I guess the answer is dual booting like you say, but that begs the question, why even have Linux if I've just paid for Windows and supported Microsoft (hypothetically speaking of course), and it runs all the software I can think of.

[.::BeatFactory::.]

Originally posted by Theinfamousone
And what version are you using? I downloaded Lindows 4.0 since it sounds like I could handle it and I don't have to completely install it to see how it is, pretty nice actually, but I suddenly realized how much stuff I wouldn't be able to use anymore, Nero (how am I gonna burn DVDs?) Kazaa etc. Then all my games of course. Video editors, virtual dub etc.

I guess the answer is dual booting like you say, but that begs the question, why even have Linux if I've just paid for Windows and supported Microsoft (hypothetically speaking of course), and it runs all the software I can think of.

Knoppix comes with Wine on the distro, comes with burning software (or you could use something like xcdroast), and about everything you can think of. Knoppix is one of the best distro's out there especially for newbies to Linux.

[Sho0tyz]

Originally posted by Theinfamousone
And what version are you using? I downloaded Lindows 4.0 since it sounds like I could handle it and I don't have to completely install it to see how it is, pretty nice actually, but I suddenly realized how much stuff I wouldn't be able to use anymore, Nero (how am I gonna burn DVDs?) Kazaa etc. Then all my games of course. Video editors, virtual dub etc.

I guess the answer is dual booting like you say, but that begs the question, why even have Linux if I've just paid for Windows and supported Microsoft (hypothetically speaking of course), and it runs all the software I can think of.

`

People run Linux for many different reasons, security, ease of use, software, because they hate Microsoft, because they think it will make them look cool, you name it. I would like to see Linux gain popularity, but I'm not one of these evangelists that says that everyone should be running it. If you're happy with Windows, stick with it.

There is plenty of software available. There are a multitude of CD/DVD burning tools. Who needs Nero? Kazaa used to be available, but I think the protocol has been changed and the Linux version no longer works. That being said, there is plenty of other p2p software available. I'm no expert on video editing, but software exists I'm sure. It seems that many people want to switch to Linux but run all of the same software. It just doesn't work that way. WINE won't do any good for you. You'll waste a lot of time setting it up, often get less performance/functionality than you would on Windows, and there will always be software that doesn't run at all with WINE. Why do this when you can just run Windows?