Boycott will be a test of impact of P2P community

[UBERVIEW]

A couple of observations: From what I've read or heard, most P2P users ARE now boycotting their local music stores. Whether or not the boycott is felt by the music industry will be a good indicator of what percentage of P2P users regularly buy CDs. If they don't buy that many CDs to begin with, then the impact on the industry will be minimal and the RIAA isn't gonna give a damn.

If on the other hand, non P2P users begin to see this as a battle against industry abuse, the RIAA could be singing a different tune and might back off.

I will tell you what will get their attention: picket lines in front of music stores. Informed protesters who help disseminate some of the information contained at boycott-riaa.com.
(not sure if that is the exact address).

[Sephiroth]

There has been numerous protest threads so there is no need to keep making new ones.

[Aaron73153]

People are boycotting the music industry and they will continue to blame poor sales on P2P, i guess I've just given up trying to convince the RIAA of their wrongs. What we need is a magic proctologist that can find the heads of the RIAA executives, cause they're pretty far up their a$$es.

[FutureIverson]

yeah there already was a threat, and boycotts are simple, the more we boycott, the more the riaa complains about it's losses.

[thongsai]

lol i dont like how u guys think boycotting is hurtin the riaa... i mean do u know how much money they have? boycotts hurt ur local music store.. maybe in years it will start to hurt the big boys..
u guys sugar up how filesharing isnt stealing.. but it is people.. but unlike u i know its stealing and i still do it.. yes i stole b4 thats y im ok with stealin somethin over the internet..

[FileHoover]

Originally posted by Sephiroth
There has been numerous protest threads so there is no need to keep making new ones.

Why don't you admins make "Creating A New Thread" a Subject-To-Approval" operation.

When a user posts a new thread, have the message wait in a queue until it is approved.

There is no way for people to scan the ENTIRE ZP message base just to make sure a thread doesn't already exist. You are demanding people restrain their communication which is not good for the mood of the board.

If you want people to communicate, which equals more traffic which equals more hits which equals more advertisers which equals more money for you, take my advice on creating a new thread.

[cheapprick]

Originally posted by FileHoover
There is no way for people to scan the ENTIRE ZP message base just to make sure a thread doesn't already exist. You are demanding people restrain their communication which is not good for the mood of the board.

If you want people to communicate, which equals more traffic which equals more hits which equals more advertisers which equals more money for you, take my advice on creating a new thread.

You're a funny guy to suggest how the site should run. There has been a flux of new members lately, and repetitve threads really aren't serving any purpose when most of the old ones are still open.

[Theinfamousone]

I like what FutureIverson said, the more we boycott, the more losses to blame on P2P.

[Aaron73153]

what has hurt the local music store are the volume discounts the record companies give Wall-Mart, best buy and stores like that, if a cd is cheaper at a big, national chain you'll get it there, the local stores can't compete. What is killing the local record stores are the same places that are killing other types of local stores, the big national chains.


FileHoover: you know there is a search button at the top of this page.

[eclectica]

This effort has been given prominence by Boycott-Riaa.com. They said we should boycott CDs in the month of August. But I am probably not going to change my ways. As the RIAA tries to intimidate users I continue to download and share on peer-to-peer, and I continue to buy an occasional CD.

The most effective way to fight the RIAA would be to get the DMCA 1998 overturned.

[FutureIverson]

the dcma might get overturned, it is accused of being unconstituional

[MiX1082]

Originally posted by thongsai
lol i dont like how u guys think boycotting is hurtin the riaa... i mean do u know how much money they have? boycotts hurt ur local music store.. maybe in years it will start to hurt the big boys..
u guys sugar up how filesharing isnt stealing.. but it is people.. but unlike u i know its stealing and i still do it.. yes i stole b4 thats y im ok with stealin somethin over the internet..

Maybe under so called "intellectual property" laws, yes, it is classed as illegal to share files.

But it isn't stealing. When you steal something from somebody, they are left without the thing you have just stolen. If I steal a pencil from you, you are one pencil short. You no longer have the use of that pencil because of my action.

If however your pencil is cloned there and then right in front of your eyes, with no damage whatsoever to the original pencil, what exactly have you lost? Nothing. What have I gained? Something. Win win situation.

If "stealing" is taking something from somebody, file sharing is NOT stealing. If you make such simplistic analogies you simply don't understand the digital world.

[Lucian]

Let the RIAA complain, the RIAA sucks.

What more can their complaining do? They already ARE suing us so its not like it matters at this point, kill the RIAA, boycott them FOREVER, dont buy a single CD ever again.

[FutureIverson]

as much as everyone tries... p2p is stealing music, did you pay for it. I'm going to keep doing it and so will probably 55/60 million will over the next 5-10 years before the struggle will have shaped with the riaa giving up or half the users scared. i don't think it's wrong to download music, but i don't think you can justify it. It's a guilty pleasure