Would you stop using P2P if you could rent CDs?

**Lucian** · July 14th, 2003, 03:36 AM

I think I've found the solution to piracy, treat music like we treat TV. Would you pay $1 to rent music a music CD or would you continue to use P2P?

**MAUSER** · July 14th, 2003, 03:40 AM

Treat music like films not TV, you can not rent or sell tv programmes.

**matt merch** · July 14th, 2003, 03:48 AM

Originally posted by Lucian
I think I've found the solution to piracy, treat music like we treat TV. Would you pay $1 to rent music a music CD or would you continue to use P2P?

i tend to watch tv progs only once and music i will listen to several times tv and music are like chalk and cheese don't think u have found much of a solution there imo

**Lucian** · July 14th, 2003, 03:53 AM

Treat music like films not TV, you can not rent or sell tv programmes.

Actually yes you can, I rent Anime all the time.

TV programs you dont have to rent because its already paid for by advertisements. Not saying advertisements couldnt pay for alot of P2P.

The RIAA just doesnt want to profit, they want to starve the artists so the artists will complain they arent getting money because the RIAA knows if they switch to this model its the RIAA who will get less money and not the artist.

I heard the RIAA actually is starting to try to take artists tour money.

i tend to watch tv progs only once and music i will listen to several times tv and music are like chalk and cheese don't think u have found much of a solution there imo

I dont know many people who only watch their favorite movie once. I know people who watched the matrix 3-4 times, I know people who watch shows in a series one after another, waiting each week for the show to come on tv, and I know people who will go see Terminator 3, buy the DVD, and then watch it on cable/directtv.

So whats your point? Most music is only worth listening to once unless you are a fan, and if you are a fan you'll go to concerts and buy CD, you wont rent it.

**isus** · July 14th, 2003, 04:04 AM

i wouldn't rent a cd.

the reason?
think about how easy it would be to just rip the cd, and return it.

has ANY music exec liked pirated music?

no.

they would pull the dumbass maneuver, smack as much copyright protection as they could on it, and then rent it to us.

and cd with copy protection, no matter how big or small, is not worth any price.

besides, thats when you hook up your discman to your line in and record.

**matt merch** · July 14th, 2003, 04:06 AM

yeah why would anyone rent more than one time when they could rip and have their own copy

**MAUSER** · July 14th, 2003, 04:20 AM

Anime make cartoon films and just normal short cartoons which may be a series but as they are not part of any TV company they own all the rights to there films and cartoons themselfs so they may allow people like Blockbuster to rent those out to people. We are saying TV programmes owned by TV companys such as 24 is made by a company who is owned by BBC same with the Simpsons FOX own that series and lease it to BBC and to SKY.

**Lucian** · July 14th, 2003, 04:42 AM

the reason?
think about how easy it would be to just rip the cd, and return it.

About as easy as it is to rip a DVD or VHS tape. Your point?

yeah why would anyone rent more than one time when they could rip and have their own copy

Thats the whole point. But you paid for it so its legal, if you rip it, dont get caught.

Its not like people havent been ripping VHS tapes and DVDs all this time. How do you think they get online half the time?

they would pull the dumbass maneuver, smack as much copyright protection as they could on it, and then rent it to us.

And thats exactly why the Music division is dying while the Movie division is thriving.

I rent a DVD, I dont see all these goofy copy protections. In fact I dont see any. I rent a VHS tape once again no copy protections. I buy a book and I dont see anything to keep me from putting it in a copying machine.

Its impossible to stop people from copying and ripping stuff. Period. The Movie industry has accepted this fact and learned to profit off of this via Blockbuster.

They get paid even when you pirate their DVDs, they know you'll copy it, but you paid for it so its OKAY.

**Lucian** · July 14th, 2003, 04:50 AM

Fox is free TV though, just copy it with your TIVO.

Why would you need to rent it?

Oh and the day they start putting copy protections on DVDs is the day I stop renting DVDs and going to movies.

**matt merch** · July 14th, 2003, 04:57 AM

Originally posted by Lucian

I rent a DVD, I dont see all these goofy copy protections. In fact I dont see any. I rent a VHS tape once again no copy protections. I buy a book and I dont see anything to keep me from putting it in a copying machine.

ever heard of macrovision ?

http://www.macrovision.com/solutions/video/index.php3

**rainbowdemon** · July 14th, 2003, 05:58 AM

In a word, No!!!

**rainbowdemon** · July 14th, 2003, 06:34 AM

Hi, Janet. You're right behind me in 2 threads. That's cool!

so i would cancel my internet acct

I don't think I would go that far!

**Shadow, Thief of the Sun** · July 14th, 2003, 07:48 AM

Maybe i'll stop using p2p in that case, but only if it will be allowed to copy CD's.

The real problem is that i doubt that CD rent will ever come to US. Its very doubtful that record labels will allow that, since they're always afraid to loose money.

Anyway, its a great idea. But like i said - it will never happen in some countries.