bittorrent and newsgroups..are they anonymous????

[mikeyzz]

hey i was wondering if newsgroups and bittorrent are safe from the RIAA, or are there ways they can get your ip if you're downloading. i imagine they can get if you upload/seed. thanks, mike.

[cpugeniusmv]

neither is anonymous.

bittorrent is very much not anonymous, possibly even more so than kazaa.

news servers keep logs, they know your IPs and which messages you downloaded.

[zaphodiv]

Getting files from a newsgroup is very low risk. Binary groups have been around since long before p2p networks. I'v never heard of anyone being hassled for downloading from a newsgroup. If ISP's have logs they are unlikly to give them out without a search warrant.

Posting files to a newsgroup is significantly risky.

[Aaron73153]

Newsgroups just get shutdown if they're discovered to doing illegal activity, but the RIAA may start sueing users, just how they've changed P2P stratedgy from shutting down networks to sueing individuals.

[Evil_Dweller_01]

Ehh..I wish bittorrent was safe

*cries*

[isus]

i doubt that people like the riaa or the mpaa even realize that you can go to newsgroups or even irc and download music. they expect it to be black and white... use a real p2p client like kazaa, or you're not doing illegal piracy stuff.

[mojo-ris-in]

The RIAA has stated that they're going after sharers now as that's the only way they can prove that you're engaging in illegal activities. So you probably will have no worries on newsgroups. However on Bittorrent anybody can see your ip address and in turn cause problems.

[beardedwonder]

Originally posted by isus
i doubt that people like the riaa or the mpaa even realize that you can go to newsgroups or even irc and download music. they expect it to be black and white... use a real p2p client like kazaa, or you're not doing illegal piracy stuff.

I think that's a bit naive, don't you? Of course they know about newsgroups, IRC they know about everything. If anyone can get onto this site then they can and therefore they know about almost all methods of getting 'stuff'.

Plus it's not the RIAA/MPAA that have to know about this, it's the companies like mediaforce and bayTSP that do the dirty work for them and i'm gonna guess that they know about newsgroups and IRC.

[Induna]

That must be true. Anyone worth their salt who works for these companies really ought to browse forums like this and keep abreast of users downloading habits, and what they plan to do to evade detection and so on..

And if they see a cocky son-of-a-bitch say something like, "The RIAA can go smoke my gay cock!" they'd make it their goal in life to squash that little squirt, and make him eat his words.

I would.

[isus]

Originally posted by beardedwonder
I think that's a bit naive, don't you? Of course they know about newsgroups, IRC they know about everything. If anyone can get onto this site then they can and therefore they know about almost all methods of getting 'stuff'.

Plus it's not the RIAA/MPAA that have to know about this, it's the companies like mediaforce and bayTSP that do the dirty work for them and i'm gonna guess that they know about newsgroups and IRC.

ok, maybe not entirely true.

let me put that in a new way:
the riaa/mpaa don't go after newsgroups and what not bc they aren't very popular. they might know that piracy occurs there, but 1.) they have no way to tell who is dl'ing a file and 2.) it's not worth the time and effort.

napster wasn't struck by the riaa bc it was easy (gnutella, the ip addy showing network was out at the same time). and kazaa wasn't hit bc it was pretty or functional. it was because they were popular.

kazaa advertising that they have more than 230 million dl's and more than 4 million users doesn't make it any better.

if that's not obvious, then i hafta wonder where you buy your weed.

[FileHoover]

Sometimes you have to wonder what those guys are up to.

They sued some college students for what? Small, proprietary search engines that could not have had more than a few hundred users.

Wierd.

If it's because they are very, very, very stupid, then we don't have anything to worry about.

Otherwise, they must have some strange legal strategy they are working. Perhaps they are trying to set up precedent cases. They are testing just how far they can go with older copyright law and the newer DMCA before they commit themselves to a full on assault. Perhaps they are testing the waters of public reaction and the reaction of the US White House.