Razorback Blacklisted me!!! WHY

[WaWaWang]

I was wondering if anyone knows how to get unblacklisted in the razorback servers and probinprinz. Please help
and i use emule plus 1f

[hawkburn]

Originally posted by WaWaWang
I was wondering if anyone knows how to get unblacklisted in the razorback servers and probinprinz. Please help
and i use emule plus 1f

What did you do to get banned? That will help to make an excuse to get un-banned.

Are you a leecher using one of those no-upload fake credit things? Or are you constantly a low-ID?

[WaWaWang]

nope i use emuleplus v1f. i asked people in irc and they told me its probably because i hammered the servers? and i had a ? how do i find out what is my credit rating. and can someone explain to me with details why the network is slow when everyone is forced to share?

[DigitalJunkie]

I think it is that we lost a lot of servers in Europe, due record & movie industry assoc. like RIAA, MPAA in the U.S.! Those servers that are still up, are trying to handle million+ users as before. So, unless you have very high ID, you may not get into any server you want!

[zaphodiv]

There have been a few reports of unexplained banning reccently. Wait a few days and you will be able to access those servers again.

Provided your id is over 100000, the magnitude of the number is unimportant.

Your credit on the network is not visible to you.

Edit: Spelling

[nasrules]

Originally posted by WaWaWang
can someone explain to me with details why the network is slow when everyone is forced to share?

Because you have to upload shitloads of stuff before you can ever see good download speeds. I bet there are people out there who can download at maxed-out speeds from eDonkey. I am not one of them.

[Ea$y_E]

actually you can see the credit file in emule..

go to servers tab on bottom its at the top of buffer log

credit file loaded - XXX known users.

what this number is, is the number of clients you have shared fragments (chunks) with. within this said "group" of users you have a higher priority on there queue list.

so IE, users A, B, & C have credit with each other, users D & E will be bumped back a bit to give way.

as for speed....

this is the issue, as the ED2K network has grown rather rapidly within the last couple of months, the queues for chunks has also increased.

one way to alleviate this problem is to make sure you have a high ID on servers so you can get all the available sources you can, second, make sure you share a atleast 10K u/l bandwidth.

for a 128K u/l connection 12K is a prefered setting.

also note the ED2K network is a haven for those with patience

the phrase "patience, is a virtue." was never so true.

just let emule run while you sleep and you'll get a large portion of files, if not complete a few.

as for servers...

heres the deal -

servers log user hashes, if you hammer the servers to fast in too little a time frame you get banned for excessive server load.

with the version you have it shouldnt happen,

my question to you is..

what message did you recieve that leads you to believe you have been banned from said servers?

[WaWaWang]

i did some research in the emuleplus forums and i found this....

This system is designed for protecting servers against some agressive behaviors from clients.

Read the following >>>

A bit of history : in the previous episode...

This system has been enabled since several months on all Lugdunum's servers. Until now, blacklisted users didn't recieved sources from server anymore, during a certain period (predetermined by the server's admin), and hadn't been informed about that. As they could stay connected, our expects on behavior's user changes was unsuccessful, because they ignored they didn't received sources from server anymore, as far as eMule has an exchange sources feature. Now, there's about 5% of blacklisted users on Razorback.

Consequence

Lugdunum has decided to increase decisivenesses agaisnt these users, in the new eDonkey server release, 75 version. They are now disconnected from servers and notified of the reason.

How aggressive clients are determined by server

The server give to each IP address a 1200 points "credit" for a determined period. The credit counter is growing to one unit each second.

Each request sent to server is decreasing the counter of a certain amount of credit, according to this scale :

- 1 credit : at least, for each trame + a variable amount
- 100 credits : for each connection request
- 16 credits : for each sources request for a downloading file


Overrun consequences

If the credit counter is becoming null, you'll be BLACKLISTED during a predetermined period, according to each server (from 10 mins to 2 hours).
If during this blacklisting period, your client still sending request to the server, the ban lenghth is growing more and more.

if you want more info check the thread out --> http://emuleplus.sourceforge.net/for...&hl=silentbob&

[begoodbebad]

and if you did click "help" and searched for "ban" you would find this:

"Agressive Client Ban
If another clients wants to download a file from you, he will request this file and reask every 10-20 min to make sure that you are still a valid source. However it is possible to adjust clients so they ask more frequently. This will give the modified client a higher chance to to get an upload slot on eDonkey clients.
eMule does not care about the reask frequency and the chances to get an uploadslot won't increase. Such behavior wastes valuable ressources (connections and bandwidth) and will be blocked.
The new client system will blacklist clients which reask too often (more than once for a file within 10 min), and they are not allowed to download from you. The blacklist is cleared when you restart emule.

Examples how to get blacklisted (you won't be able to download from emule clients):

> Setting the reask-parameter of your client lower then 10 min.
> Setting your downloads to pause and resume to increase your downloadspeed regulary - which will result in a new filerequest everytime (eDonkey clients only)
> Restarting your client every 2 min (which will also result in a new request).

To make it clear: eMule does not care which client (eMule/eDonkey/mldonkey) asks. Each client that reasks too often will be banned."

The moral of the story is ""I want" never gets"

patience patience......and if you have no patience eMule/eDonkey is not the place for you. It will cause you great anxiety and this can lead to serious mental trauma. In the most serious cases sufferers resort to using Kazaa. They gorge themselves on fast and easy corrupt downloads until their ability to discriminate quality rips from dogshit is entirely destroyed.