I've had an Idea
Ok I posted the stuff below as while ago and got slated for it (mostly) have a look at www.spankdonkey.com they are trying somthing along the lines of what i suggested.
"Hello,
I have an Idea.
What if you create a new brand of p2p software that is free for home users only.
If a Business wishes to uses it charge them some totally stupid amount
(i.e. $1,000,000,000,000,000)
Meaning they cannot search the networks legally because they have used your software without permission. Also add in stuff like 'reverse engineering of this programme is prohibited'.
Make it so they couldn't legally touch the programme and therefore couldn't not gather evidence.
Oh the irony. Using there own copyright laws against them."
that is a good idea but the problem is i dont know how to make programsOriginally posted by Comax
Hello,
I have an Idea.
What if you create a new brand of p2p software that is free for home users only.
If a Business wishes to uses it charge them some totally stupid amount
(i.e. $1,000,000,000,000,000)
Meaning they cannot search the networks legally because they have used your software without permission. Also add in stuff like 'reverse engineering of this programme is prohibited'.
Make it so they couldn't legally touch the programme and therefore couldn't not gather evidence.
Oh the irony. Using there own copyright laws against them.
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It more of a shout out to anyone who has made or is thinking of making a prog.
Even if the new version of eDonkey made this change it might help.
Although they would have to change there protocols slightly
well...it's difficult to put my thoughts into words...
but that just wouldn't work.
sorry :-\
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you don't even see the ironyOriginally posted by Comax
Hello,
I have an Idea.
What if you create a new brand of p2p software that is free for home users only.
If a Business wishes to uses it charge them some totally stupid amount
(i.e. $1,000,000,000,000,000)
Meaning they cannot search the networks legally because they have used your software without permission. Also add in stuff like 'reverse engineering of this programme is prohibited'.
Make it so they couldn't legally touch the programme and therefore couldn't not gather evidence.
Oh the irony. Using there own copyright laws against them.
make a program that violates laws because it doesn't pay royalties to copyright holders, then expecting those same copyright holders to pay YOU a royalty
in the UK they'd call you a thicko
So you want to write a programme that forces them to constantly gather evidence?Originally posted by Comax
Make it so they couldn't legally touch the programme and therefore couldn't not gather evidence.
Sarcastic grammatical criticism aside, your idea isn't very good..
for the benefit of all sentient beings
sounds good coming out of the mouth/brain/whatever, but it would never work.
just bc, it wouldn't.
somebody could try though, just to see what happened.
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I wasn't trying to provok anyone.
notbob
'make a program that violates laws because it doesn't pay royalties to copyright holders, then expecting those same copyright holders to pay YOU a royalty'
It's not a money making idea it's a security thing to stop p2p user getting large lawsuit thrown at them.
matstao
'So you want to write a programme that forces them to constantly gather evidence?'
No you've missed the point. They couldn't gather evidence as they themselves would be breaking the copyright laws by doing so. (i.e. using your program and server without permission).
I am no legal expert, but it sounds to me that technically it would work, but what if the FBI got involved, they're not a business, or the press, or any other loop holes that would expose the fact that illegal stuff was going on, and then judges wouldn't let it stand up in court for a second.
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I think It would be good to add into the legal stuff I never read just to give it a go. Sounds good to me comax. Anything to stretch out a lawsuit case. You never can tell what can happen in the U.S. justice legal system.
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ahhh, the ideas churning around in these youngster's heads.
fact is though, that some of the most ingenius ideas, came about in just the same manner.
only they didn't share them with everyone.
even though some may not be plausible...u just wait.
just one of them will be the breakthrough of p2p or any other wonderful technological revolution.
keep on thinking and inventing little ones, for u r our futures and lo and behold....u may change the face of our grey-headed futures.
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Comax, you missed my point. I was just making a joke about your double negative.
for the benefit of all sentient beings
That idea wouldn't work they still would use it anyways you can't tell that some one is working for a corporation if they log in they can always get on the network on another ip. It's like its illegal to jaywalk but people are still going to do it.
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Joe works for a big record company and is assigned to shut down Free4u or whatever your program is called. He downloads it free in his own home as a home user, works with it for a while and makes himself an expert witness. Returning to work, he punches in at the timeclock and uses his newfound education at your trial. You go to jail.
Add a clause in the programs terms of use prohibiting the use of the programme by um...
hmm....
yes it is tricky.
Got it. It can't be used by employees of the entertainment industry.
Ok thats poor but still i'd rather see the legal system protecting users of p2p then attacking them.
By adding legal stuff to your p2p progs you'd be able to sue companies like NET PD or other copyright searching people (Net police) for touching your software.
Imagin that! No more emails form pissed off ISP's saying "YOU HAVE BEEN SUSPECTED OF HOSTING COPYRIGHTED MATRIAL! STOP SHARING NOW"
Granted I doubt you can do the same with the FB* I (do they check forums like this?) but it would half the amount of problems you currently get and grind the legal system to a crawl.
As Mel_Smiley.
And all it would take is a little typing in the terms and conditions part of a prog! :)
Now I'm feeling very smug so I'm going to bed.
Good Night.
oh and sorry to matstao for my lack of reading properly
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