EMule/EDonkey, Do you use it just to be cool?

[DrWho]

So as I have been recently sucked back into the P2P networks and trying many different programs for a few weeks now, I am finding nothing at all special about the EMule/EDonkey network.

I keep going back to WinMX.

WinMX allows me to share my files.

EMule has yet to let me share a file that I was not already downloading anyway. What is up with that?

Set your files for RELEASE. No difference that I have seen yet.

Get a HighID. Got it, not difference. Use credits, no difference, as I rarely DL and just trying to UL my boots.

Searching, next to terrible on EMule.

For example:

Emule: XYZ- Live - 4 Matches.

WinMX: XYZ- Live - 300+ Matches - Killed it

Video and Software - Again WinMX out performs by far.
Used a popular program for Photos as a test.

Also did a very popular search for MP3s by a certain blonde singing female, 6 results on EMule, 300+ on WinMX, again.

Sitting behind a firewall? No problem for WinMX and it's secondary connection type. EMule, issues and always a LowID.

Can some download from me on EMule while I am behind a firewall? Don't know, have yet to see a UL from me to a user while behind a firewall.

ULs on WInMX, not a problem, the Secondary connection takes care of it easily.

Not to say WinMX is at all perfect, but it is far more useful, functional and easier.

Leechers on WinMX? Could give a rats ass, cause if I am looking for a song I can get it. It may take a coulple times to instigate a DL, but I won't be waiting for days for the file to complete. I get to listen to that song that day.

SO what gives?

Is EMule/EDonkey crap as I think they are, or am I missing something??

Is it just a cool thing for some to use to show off??

Let me know, please.

[Jelsoft]

For example:

Emule: XYZ- 4 Matches.

WinMX: XYZ - Live - 300+ Matches - Killed it

Also did a very popular search for MP3s by a certain blonde singing female, 6 results on EMule, 300+ on WinMX, again.

Your using emule to search for the wrong type of files.

emule was not design for trading of small 5MB MP3 files, but trading of very large files (600 MB+).

[ozamosi]

i sat for 68 hours nonstop trying to download one movie. there were like 100 sources, and uploaded it to lots of people while downloading, so it was pretty popular. it didnt finnish.

[Jelsoft]

Originally posted by ozamosi
i sat for 68 hours nonstop trying to download one movie. there were like 100 sources, and uploaded it to lots of people while downloading, so it was pretty popular. it didnt finnish.

Why would you sit and watch the movie download? It's like waiting for a kettle to boil.

Just let emule run and continue on with your tasks in life.

emule may not be fast, but it will get you what you want.

[DrWho]

"emule was not design for trading of small 5MB MP3 files, but trading of very large files (600 MB+)."

I can understand that somewhat.

My files, MP3s are all done in 320bit, and can go over 80MBs in a lot of cases.

On a search for a large file though, I get more in WInMX, say a movie about a Ring and a Hobbit.

And though there is this so called Horde, I don't see any use of it whatsever in any of my DL's, or when I contribute to a UL for another user.

WinMX has the same type of Horde system, but it allows for downloading from multiple users. So what's so good about Horde is beyond me.

Well, that's my opinion, edonkey and emule are teh Suck, and I just don't see the point in using them at all when there are other more reliable programs out there.

[Jelsoft]

Originally posted by DrWho
"emule was not design for trading of small 5MB MP3 files, but trading of very large files (600 MB+)."

I can understand that somewhat.

My files, MP3s are all done in 320bit, and can go over 80MBs in a lot of cases.

On a search for a large file though, I get more in WInMX, say a movie about a Ring and a Hobbit.

And though there is this so called Horde, I don't see any use of it whatsever in any of my DL's, or when I contribute to a UL for another user.

WinMX has the same type of Horde system, but it allows for downloading from multiple users. So what's so good about Horde is beyond me.

Well, that's my opinion, edonkey and emule are teh Suck, and I just don't see the point in using them at all when there are other more reliable programs out there.

Well that's your choice.

I have used Winmx and the queues are very long. The queues are worst than emule's queues.

When I try and download a movie from Winmx, the user will sometimes log off in the middle of the download and I can't find another user with the same file.

emule and Winmx is different on how files are shared. emule generates a unique hash ID for each file.

You may get only few files from the search results from emule, but one file may have 50 sources behind that file.

[DrWho]

"emule and Winmx is different on how files are shared. emule generates a unique hash ID for each file. "

The hash is fine, if you get a good file to begin with.

Other then that I don't see any use for it, Care to explain a bit as to it's usefulness?

[evilmegaman]

eMule is very horrible at searching. your best bet is to not use the search in eMule, but use the search on jigle.com, or filedonkey.com . it works much better that way.

[DrWho]

Ok, then I will try some more hashing later and see if I can get better results. Thanks for the info.

[ATLien]

Originally posted by ozamosi
i sat for 68 hours nonstop trying to download one movie. there were like 100 sources, and uploaded it to lots of people while downloading, so it was pretty popular. it didnt finnish.

Holy Shit! Talking about "Intestinal Fortitude!"

[begoodbebad]

there are people out there who don't watch their files download? Fukkin hippies.

[zaphodiv]

>EMule has yet to let me share a file that I was not already downloading anyway.
>What is up with that?
You are using it incorrectly. Just set the folders you want to share in the preferances.

[pacificstate]

Using hashes in emule / edonkey is one of the best things to happen to p2p next to sig2dat, kazaa uses. tons of users sharing one file named all differently, no problem..

Speed varies pretty much, that's true, but the number of movies available is enormous, not just new releases even older ones are available over a long period of time.

If you are into music (320kbps-too much anyway) try another p2p like soulseek...

[DrWho]

First, I am sharing files correctly, I just can't get my new files out there it seems.

But I have no prob ULing the more popular files.

Ok, I was harsh on eMule, cause WinMX likes to re-boot my computer anyway.

I ran eMule over night and it did not crash, v0.29.

I think I am just frustrated with some of the P2P programs out there in general.

I am going to keep using eMule though.

I do sit there and watch Dls'. For a couple of reasons.
1) to make sure my BandWidth Numbers are good, then I experiment to see if I can iincrease my UL speed to users.

2) With WinMX, I found that if I ran IE and browsed while users were DLing from me, they was get better speeds. Not just better but beyond belief speeds from me.

Without me Borwsing WinMX would UPLOAD files to user at like 5kb/s. When I started browsing, UPLOAD speeds would go as high as 100 K/bs. With many jumping well over 40kb/s.

Stop surfing and WinMX would drop back down to 5 kb/s or so.

What crap.

EMule, I did the same trick as I did with WinMX, and did not see any difference. Though my MAX UPLOAD speed to users, regardless of the number of folks DLing from me, rarely got over 30k/bs. But that's a lot better then WInMX.

I have taken my new files and put RELEASE on them, but people just can't seem to hit those files, I am pretty sure they would want them.

Anyway, I am continuing to experiment.

No offense emule users, I may be converted, if I go home and it's still running, which apparenlty it is, as far as I can tell from another internet connection.

[Jelsoft]

Originally posted by DrWho
I have taken my new files and put RELEASE on them, but people just can't seem to hit those files, I am pretty sure they would want them.

From the looks of it your files have unique hash IDs that are different from the other files of the same type.

For example:

You might release a file called abc.mp3 with a hash ID like A0000000001.

But there might be another file called abc.mp3 with a hash ID like B0000000002.

Now what is important is how many people who have the same hash file ID.

If there are 50 people with a hash file ID of B0000000002 compared to one person with a hash file ID of A0000000001, more people will likely download from the people with more sources which is hash file ID of B0000000002.

The reason for this is because there are more sources available for hash file ID of B0000000002 and it's likely to be a fake file.

Just to like you know sharing unique hash file IDs is not a bad thing. From what I read emule reward the users who share rare files.