Gnutella Is Down But Not Out

[napho]

Lets be honest. Gnutella has been surpassed by many other networks. We know their names. It's always been considered a developers' network, great for new coders but not so good for users. I can feel the interest in Gnutella waning, and without all the hype it'll be exposed as a very weak sister in the p2p world. Still it can recover and be a factor in the future but for now it really blows.

[Theinfamousone]

Interesting that it is coming back up. It's a good sign. I wonder what impact Shareaza has had.

[ROMANTICGUY50]

I have not used Gnutella for a long long time. When I first starting file sharing I did. I now use Kazaalite K++ RC16.( I heard that RC17 is out but I went to the test link and it took me to the regular download site.) I do use Gnutella every so often but I also use Imesh Clean and others. I like it. I hear they are talking about improvements and that would be cool. Most of the major programs have spyware and aware and that sucks. Limewire, Freewire. Aqualime is cool cause it does not have any adware and spyware. That's the one I use. I also use Shareaza as well cause it includes Gnutella and Gutella2.

[nasrules]

Originally posted by Theinfamousone
Interesting that it is coming back up. It's a good sign. I wonder what impact Shareaza has had.

A big one!

[Captain_FLX]

Hmmmmm I dont think i've ever seen Gnutella pass 1,000,000 users and i dont think it's ever going to I'm NOT interested in Gnutella but i think they havent passed the 1,000,000 user base cause maybe their Technology ? wont support it? because with SO many clients out there from limewire to Bearshare and Shareaza they still cant pass the 1,000,000 user base which FastTrack with only Imesh Grokster Kazaa and @ 1 time Morpheus they sometimes are close to 5,000,000 Users so i dont know what's wrong with Gnutella @ 1 time when Morpheus bearly joined it hit the 500,000 users but i've never seen it hit that much anymore i bearly see it go to 150,000 users

[Sephiroth]

the stats are very inefficient because it cant count leaves on some ultrapeers and there is no way that it counts every host on the network.

The real number is alot higher than that at least 4 times higher or more. The reason why its higher is because its summer and alot more students are using gntella now than during the school year.

Also since i dont think some people here know but the latest shareaza beta doesnt connect to gntuella anymore on default. Many internet users dont care about spyware or adware either so that doesnt really hold programs back. Many of the programs you can install, use a adware cleaner to erase any of the programs they install and continue to use it. So i think it is a big issue anymore.

[triniti]

If every servent was UDP capable then we could get a lot better read out by sending just on broadcast. Gnutella needs to become more protocol hybrid.

[isus]

well, im sure some of it is college kids coming home... although all the college kids i know came home awhile ago?

[Matt]

Originally posted by Sephiroth
the stats are very inefficient because it cant count leaves on some ultrapeers and there is no way that it counts every host on the network.
Ok, I can accept this for what it is and i agree. But gnutella and fasttrack are very fluid, so no user count can be accurate.

The real number is alot higher than that at least 4 times higher or more. The reason why its higher is because its summer and alot more students are using gntella now than during the school year.
Umm ok...this is where I have a problem. Show me your proof and I'll agree, but until then it's the same as me saying "Ares is as big as KaZaA, you just don't know it yet" These are released by the company and obviously they want to make a good impression. So if anything they're being generous with their user count.

Also since i dont think some people here know but the latest shareaza beta doesnt connect to gntuella anymore on default. Many internet users dont care about spyware or adware either so that doesnt really hold programs back. Many of the programs you can install, use a adware cleaner to erase any of the programs they install and continue to use it. So i think it is a big issue anymore.
People do care about ads and spyware, yes, even your little KaZaA newbies. I will never use Bearshare because it has ads and spyware. The same goes for KaZaA. People don't know about spyware removers or adware removers either. And Shareaza doesn't do it by default, in it's quickstart section it asks what you want to do! So you're incorrect in what you say on multiple accounts. Better luck next time. -Matt

[cheapprick]

Holy shit Matt, comedy at it's finest.

People do care about ads and spyware, yes, even your little KaZaA newbies. I will never use Bearshare because it has ads and spyware. The same goes for KaZaA. People don't know about spyware removers or adware removers either. And Shareaza doesn't do it by default, in it's quickstart section it asks what you want to do! So you're incorrect in what you say on multiple accounts. Better luck next time.

Everyone knows what a big fanboy of Kazaa Seph has always been. Can we now witness a touching rendition of the Sephiroth vs. Morgwen mod spats of the past?

[Deep Thought]

Hahaha. I sincerely doubt that Shareaza had much of an impact on the gnutella network. Both Limewire and Bearshare have larger userbases and all Shareaza ever did to/for gnutella was use it's content so that Mike didn't have to develop a network protocol immediately then essentially abandon it because it was suddenly "inferior". Amazingly his Precious MP never even reached half the size of the original gnutella network. I'm glad to see that Gnutella is recovering, although if you use the latest Limewire betas you can see why. For the first time ever almost all of my downloads are successful and fast on gnutella.

[TipYourBartender]

It will be interesting to see what happens with Gnutella when (not if, when!!!) FastTrack gets shut down.

[Wings_of_Azrael]

I've tried the new LimeWire 3.0.0 beta and it is pretty nice. I love the black skin. Also, for the few files it has, the downloads are reliable and speedy. When/If it grows to a million+ users, the big thing is going to be how much of the network can a user access at any given time without harming the network. That's going to be the big variable for me in the future; right now it's not a primary source for anything.

Still, the fact that most of Gnutella's future users would be flooding in from FastTrack seems like a put off. People with a bunch of files they d/led from Kazaa are like retarded zombies with one eye hanging out of the socket. They'll be bringing with them corrupted video files, game rips with corrupted portions, low bitrate music files and no complete albums, and crummy pornos. They're like the kid in the back of the class who eats glue and wipes his boogers on the desk. It's like, "eww, stay away!" I think it would be better to just take content from Usenet and IRC and even have some original releases so Gnutella won't be like FT's little cousin with down syndrome.

[Evil_Dweller_01]

Very True Wings of Azrael

Who the hell would want kazaa kiddies coming over and polluting a network like that?

Please..its just too sad to think about

The only thing kazaa is good for is popular content...everything else is shit quality

[Crazy Horse]

It's doubtful that Gnutella (in any form or client(s)) will reach 1 million users. Unless something drastic happens in the way of their protocol they will never reach that plateau. They have been around as long or longer as many of the other programs that have already surpassed their user base. Even if FastTrack were shut down I still don't think people would flock to Gnutella. Newer versions of WinMx and others are on the horizon. Gnutella needs to get "drastic"