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    What the F. is happening here?

    I have been seeing the following phenomenom for a long time now in winMX :

    I have always 2 sorts of UL/DL speeds: normal ones and slow ones.
    The slow ones are ALL UL or DL at approx 0.4 K/s.
    The normal ones can UL at 15 K max. and DL at 150K max.
    Sometimes i have a fast DL from someone who is UL from me at 0.4 K/s. And sometime i am DL at 0.4K and the same person is DL at normal speed from me.

    Could it be firewalls?
    I am behind a router with opened TCP 6699 and UDP 6257.
    XP-firewall off
    No UL/DL limitation set.
    Cable-connection.


    What the F. is happening here?

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    Angry Re: What the F. is happening here?

    Originally posted by Wile
    I have been seeing the following phenomenom for a long time now in winMX :

    I have always 2 sorts of UL/DL speeds: normal ones and slow ones.
    The slow ones are ALL UL or DL at approx 0.4 K/s.
    The normal ones can UL at 15 K max. and DL at 150K max.
    Sometimes i have a fast DL from someone who is UL from me at 0.4 K/s. And sometime i am DL at 0.4K and the same person is DL at normal speed from me.

    Could it be firewalls?
    I am behind a router with opened TCP 6699 and UDP 6257.
    XP-firewall off
    No UL/DL limitation set.
    Cable-connection.


    What the F. is happening here?
    You could be hooking up to sombody with a slow connection. I have 28k dial-up, so my d/l and u/l speeds are very slow. Not quite as slow as you mention, but pretty slow. That's my quess anyhow.

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    Look at netstat when you get a slow connection. You will probably see a strong correlation between 0.4K/s transfers and connections to the other side of the world or to places with poor connectivity such as mexico or aol.

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    Question

    Originally posted by zaphodiv
    Look at netstat when you get a slow connection. You will probably see a strong correlation between 0.4K/s transfers and connections to the other side of the world or to places with poor connectivity such as mexico or aol.
    What is netstat?

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    look for ms dos prompt command
    and type it in
    it will show you all your connections
    type netstat and u will see what u need to see

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    I have a router setup and it rarely slows me down other than if the person on the other side has really, really slow connection. There are lot ppl on winmx (among other p2p programs) who put T1 or cable for thier speeds but you can tell they are on modems.
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    Yeah, but still it is strange that ALL my "slow" speeds are 0.4K/s.
    Not higher or lower. One must have some differences due (faster) modems or so. I do not see that.

    I am working now on the netstat-tip from zaphodiv.
    If this is true (slow areas worldwide), some others users must have the same problems too?

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    Originally posted by Wile
    Yeah, but still it is strange that ALL my "slow" speeds are 0.4K/s.
    Not higher or lower. One must have some differences due (faster) modems or so. I do not see that.

    I am working now on the netstat-tip from zaphodiv.
    If this is true (slow areas worldwide), some others users must have the same problems too?
    Dude, same hear. If there fast, there fast. If ther slow, there slow.
    Like Wolfie said, Lots of people say there one thing, but not.
    Long as my speed is great, i'm o.k.
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    OK this was explained to me once before

    your slow speeds is info from winmx to list files
    (both from and to your pc)

    your fast speeds are actual file transfers.

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    actually, its tcp/ip... when someone starts ul'ing off you, they send ack packets, which you recieve... this will slow down your dl's... it's the way winmx works.

    open up ie and start dl'ing a big flash movie or something... winmx slows down so you can keep working, thats why ack packets mess up dl/ul speeds. kazaa just takes over your whole connection, so ie won't slow anything down, as a dl or ul will go full speed.
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    i was gonna say that some of the slower speeds could be peeps who r multi-sourcing it.....i always look to see what the time frame is. 15 min vs 2hours.
    if it's 2 hours then i know they're not multi-sourcing and r a very slow connection.
    but the fact that the uls r always at 0.4ks is a mystery.
    probably what these guys suggest.
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    1. when it happens to a person dling from you is it an incomplete file that you are currently getting from another user? If so, are they at a point that roughly corresponds to where you are with the file?

    2. When you are dling from another user, is it a file that is incomplete from them? and are you roughly at the same point they are?

    I have noticed that when dling a file, winmx will drag big time to maintain the ability to dl from a user, and in the proccess slow down other multipoint options.
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    PROBLEM LOCATED: BAD NODE.

    Hi,

    I did some research on "my" slow connections.
    I used TCPView to locate the Local Adresses of the slow Uploaders in WinMX.
    Then I used NeoTrace to trace the adresses above.

    In all traces of the slow connections occured the next node:
    us-nyc01a-rd1-pos-0-0.aorta.net

    In the fast connections this node was not traced.

    So, a case of a bad node in New York??

    I attach a pictured trace of a bad connection.

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    Not NY but Amsterdam!

    The node appears to be in Amsterdam:

    Name: us-nyc01a-rd1-pos-0-0.aorta.net
    IP Address: 213.46.160.194
    Location: AMSTERDAM (52.370N, 4.900E)
    Network: CHELLO-BACKBONE

    Registrant:
    UPC Telekabel Wien GmbH (AORTA5-DOM)
    Wolfganggasse 58-60
    Vienna, Vienna 1120
    AT


    Sorry NY!

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