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Isn't the majority right? - Legalize sharing!! -
February 6th, 2003, 04:45 PM
Hello! :shy
I would gladly pay a small raise on my internet-connection and have legal access to programs such as Kazaa lite... The companies would also earn more money that way. They just have to face the facts and make sharing legal, or turning millions of millions of people into criminals! How can such a small group (like RIAA) still consider that they're right when about 200 million people have an opposite opinion? We even proof and claim our rights by taking risks in using those "illegal" programs - Isn't only that worth a notice?! Is this democracy? - NO! They're just hiding behind some primitive law(s) to make their "legal" money! Change those primitive laws now! /John. |
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February 6th, 2003, 04:58 PM
As great of a sentiment that is, lets consider this: who makes the laws and passes them?
The answer is another small group who mostly either come from money (personal wealth) or are supported by big money coporations). I think democracy is great ideal, but in real politics the voice of the influential few out-weights the regeular people. PS. sorry, bit pessiemistic tonight.... Since its inception almost 30 years ago, the internet has been transformed from a primitive device for sharing thoughts and ideas, into a massive network where people pay to connect and read advertisements they don't want, while calling each other "asshats". |
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February 6th, 2003, 05:43 PM
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What We need to do is to take political actions, or live as criminals... -> "Do it today, tomorrow it may be illegal!" <- |
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February 6th, 2003, 05:57 PM
Sorry, but it is a common fact that the more money you command the more your voice counts. So it takes around 100,000 poor average slobs like you and I to equal one recording association exec. Lets not even get into how much more important celebrities are!
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February 6th, 2003, 07:05 PM
The law is the masses work their behinds off so a few can live out their lives in unimmaginable comfort and excess. The law taxes you, forcing you into a cycle of economic slavery. The law creates an illusion of freedom, least you wise up and take off afew heads! I wish I could steal from over-paid fat cats that force us into 30 year morgages, rip us off on utilities, tax us, fine us and bill us and insure us until we can't afford anything. Fact is once the major players are done sweezing the life out of us, we can't afford entertainment and fun. Hell, taking away what little joy we can get our grubby little hands on via sharing might make a few heads roll, now who really wants that anyway? Yeah, I might pay monthy fee for good downloads. But fact is, I don't have much to spend. If P2P did not exist, I still could not spend money I don't have on over priced stuff. I taped off the radio, I taped off tv. How is P2P the devil? I guess they just had noway to know about how much of that people were doing. Yeah, I spent a hell of a lot more then too, when tapes were under $10 and you could get classics for $4.99. Guess what, the collection I built wore out. Tapes got ate, stopped working. But the complainers have priced themselves out of range of my limited funds. Let them Yell for me to be paid more, get into a house cheaper, have cheaper utilities, few taxes, cheaper living cost, better jobs...... Ending P2P won't make me richer and able to buy more!!! Infact, I am so ticked off at the record industry I won't buy anything anyway for awhile. They went around copy writing folk songs and they stold the lyrics, ripped off many an artist and proped up whatever posers they wanted to make rich. Well, what goes around, comes around!!! lol
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February 6th, 2003, 07:39 PM
Strength in numbers only counts if the numbers are visible. I think if file sharers turned out in mass at the courthouse to support Kazaa, then the numbers would count. Heck, they would post pone and drag around hoping to be able to do them wrong without fear of a riot. Hoping file sharers would get tired of making the trip and lining the streets, run out of sick days....lol As long as file sharers who are just regular people hide in fear and watch wide-eyed and trembling everytime a person is excessively unfairly and unjustly punished, P2P is loosing. Share not only the files, share in the trials. They can't lock everyone up, they'd run out of jails. But if we wait around, they'll build more jails... The scarest part of this is the opportunity it provides to stock private jails with good slave labor. Much higher quality than your rapests and crack whores I'd wager. If all P2P sharers would come out and say, NO! and refuse to tolerate it, it would stop. The purpose is to instill fear. And they have won in that respect. Organize visible, massive support networks, have actual people turnout in numbers together, and we'd get a legal version of Kazaa atleast where for a monthly fee we could download and the downloaded files would generate royalties.
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February 10th, 2003, 08:55 PM
i'm predicting that if and when they ever do bring the verizon user to court, it will result in massive riots all over the riaa's front lawn. Attacking an individual consumer like that is just wrong and the people won't tolerate it.
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GOD DAM STRAIGHT -
February 10th, 2003, 09:34 PM
:shy YOU GOD DAM STRAIGHT PEOPLE WONT STAND FOR IT AND NIETHER WILL HACKERS .....:shy
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February 10th, 2003, 10:14 PM
Isn't the majority right?
Not always. However in this case it's not the majority that's right, it's the RIAA/Music companies who are wrong. They haven't figured out how to keep making money in a changing world. Until then I guess they'll keep alienating the people they want to purchase their crap and keep them in business. Now, this thread is not cool. It admits that sharing is illegal which is not the case. Sharing is completely legal as long as it's not copyrighted by someone else. Copyright reform anyone? and Egypt, Saudia Arabia, Israel, Lebanon, Jordan, Syria, Iraq, Iran, Libya, and (fill in your country here). Except for ending Slavery, Fascism, Nazism, and Communism, War has NEVER solved anything -- protestwarrior.com |
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February 10th, 2003, 11:42 PM
That's a good point, all we need to do is change the copyright laws and P2P would get a lot less legal flack. Frankly, I don't care if I couldn't download new music, I hate it all, if they could make copyrights only last for 5 years or something (the rate today's artists stay popular I'd say that is more then plenty) then everything would be peachy.
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February 16th, 2003, 02:43 PM
Two words come to mind when it comes to anything surrounding Congress: Money Talks!
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February 16th, 2003, 03:17 PM
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Modern political scientists don't believe that the majority is always right. Also, the United States is a republic, not a democracy -- do not confuse the two! Secondly, file sharing is already legal. It's the content being shared that isn't legal, and that's very unlikely to change anytime soon. |
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February 16th, 2003, 03:18 PM
WE'LL NEVER STOP FIGHTING!!!!!!!!!!!!
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February 20th, 2003, 10:19 AM
Just because the majority supports something, does not mean it is right and should be legalised.
The majority of people would want to pay less tax. Unfortunately it is not financially feasible and cause no ends of misery to the most vulnerable in society, thus it is not right. The majority of people would want capital punishment legalised if they or their loved ones were the victims of murder, it doesn’t mean capital punishment is the best choice for our society. Our leaders are given positions of power, to make decisions on our behalf without having to consult on every issue except the major ones. Laws should not be passed just because at one time a “majority” of people are of the same opinion, most people whose opinions make up this majority are not receipt of the full facts, and are subject to changing their mind constantly on any given issue. The general public is generally not the smartest bunch of people to trust an issues outcome on, |
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February 20th, 2003, 10:52 AM
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