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Unhappy IP grabs (???) - February 4th, 2003, 08:01 PM

I was on a hub and the owner shut it down while I was on. I checked the chat and users where asking about "who's doing the IP grabs?" and "scary, looks like they are not stopping with kazaa and limewire".

Can anyone shed some light one this? I am ~kinda~ freaked out cause it looked like people were bolting the hub because of some monitoring of their activity. Now this hub was not one set up to share questionable files. It is a movie hub. I like DC, I think it's head and sholders over Kazaa (etc), but this sounded like something serious.

Should I be concerned? What is an IP grab? Has anyone heard of the powers that be monitoring hub activity? WHAT THE F*@K IS GOIN ON?????
   
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February 4th, 2003, 08:15 PM

I shut mine down for a similar reason--i saw mediaforce peeking in with a modified client

IP 4.43.124.x with all sorts of names Phatstang being one

Whois on 4.x.x.x mediaforce

go to mediaforce.com

there you go

private hubs i guess are the wave of the future

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They find you with Mosearch in the 1st place--hubs need to block that now too

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February 4th, 2003, 08:17 PM

HMMM. interesting. ive heard of that on IRC as well. does any else no anythin bout that?
   
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Unhappy February 18th, 2003, 09:41 AM

It sounds like no one has any concrete info on this. Which is too bad. File sharing is fun, but I am not going to goto jail cause I fileshare.

I have stopped using DC and am looking into alternative and anonymous P2P options. K++ might be a big target, but at least they (RIAA) needs the coop of a person's ISP to find them, and you can disable share browsing. DC has the IP right out there in the open.

Am I mislead in my assumtion that by collecting IP's and associating them with a person's FileList the RIAA can put a name, address and list of copywritten material on me?
   
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February 18th, 2003, 10:34 AM

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Am I mislead in my assumtion that by collecting IP's and associating them with a person's FileList the RIAA can put a name, address and list of copywritten material on me?
They could get your name/address, but they would need to contact your ISP to get them. In most cases that I have heard of, they would just contact your ISP and give them the offending IP address, and your ISP would be the one to contact you about it. But in some cases they might want your identity themselves (like the Verizon case) and use legal methods to obtain it from your service provider. So, in other words, if they have your IP and a list of shared files, you aren't necessarily going to get busted, but it is now out of your hands and in the hands of the company doing the grabs and your service provider.
   
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February 19th, 2003, 11:30 AM

almanzo -

you aren't necessarily going to get busted, but it is now out of your hands and in the hands of the company doing the grabs and your service provider.


That's what I don't like. :shoot
   
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