ZeroPaid.com

  (#1) Old
iq214 Offline
Banned
iq214 Reputation is 0
 
iq214's Avatar
 
Posts: 325
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: wonderfull Copenhagen
Reputation Power: 0
R n00bs taking over? Or MODS?! - January 19th, 2003, 06:49 PM

Ive noticed the new mods have turned trigger happy. Threads being closed, 3 strike rule (lol please thats pathetic), critical threads being deleted and so on. Lately, StreamOGs thread was closed after Hunter (of all people) came with some angered reflux. Well people, I think if you want a site with no flaming, no arguing, mods readily taking side with the kiddie in-crowd, why not go to UTC? Why ruin this place? Maybe some of these new MODS should go mod at UTC instead of here, since they seemingly prefer the UTC style? Because whats going on is not what we called ZP style a few months ago, it is rather what we were proud of NOT BEING!

ZP should maintain the freedom of speech ideal. It doesnt matter if theres a bit flaming going on (no it never was as bad as some people try to make it seem), it doesnt matter if theres some profanity or critiscism or even lame threads, its okay because its just one of the costs of being the USERS filesharing portal.

I understand that these new mods want to be efficient, they want to do a good job..but hey, maybe the job is not about forcing some personal, moral or whatever agenda on this site. Maybe some of you lost the perspective a bit when you became a mod, and thats understandable..afterall, theres plenty of ready run-a-longs to support you in whatever (mis)conceptions you have about what your task is in relation to this site...but please, this is taking overhand, good people are leaving while you please 10 or so kiddies whos main contribution is a few links and posts like what chick looks best and what have we. Dont kill the site by turning us into UTC!

Now I know critical threads are being deleted fast, so Ive kept copies of this post so I can repost it if needed be. To think that I have to take such measures at ZP..I thought the day would never come.
   
Reply With Quote
  (#2) Old
cheapprick Offline
Legend of Cheapness
cheapprick Reputation is 2000cheapprick Reputation is 2000cheapprick Reputation is 2000cheapprick Reputation is 2000cheapprick Reputation is 2000cheapprick Reputation is 2000cheapprick Reputation is 2000cheapprick Reputation is 2000cheapprick Reputation is 2000cheapprick Reputation is 2000cheapprick Reputation is 2000
 
cheapprick's Avatar
 
Posts: 3,559
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Saskatoon
Reputation Power: 543
January 19th, 2003, 07:05 PM

I don't think you'll find this thread mysteriously missing. You are showing your dissent with a portion of the site, without directly flaming anybody, If you remember what gorphon said in the thread you mentioned you'll see that was what he was standing up for your right to do so.

Second, who's the kiddie in-crowd? LOL
I think you mean me, and I will admit that statement at least makes me feel young.

Last, I think you are dead wrong. The mods have worked to clean up the site, and some people have found they have been asked to calm themselves, but remind yourself why they were appointed in the first place. People were leaving because every thread was an all-out flame war. That has stopped.

I'm not just saying this because I consider each of them a friend, but rather because they are doing a job that most of us sure as hell wouldn't want.
   
Reply With Quote
  (#3) Old
Ken17625 Offline
Your best nightmare.
Ken17625 Reputation is 250Ken17625 Reputation is 250Ken17625 Reputation is 250Ken17625 Reputation is 250
 
Ken17625's Avatar
 
Posts: 4,038
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: A place.
Reputation Power: 297
January 19th, 2003, 07:07 PM

Quote:
its okay because its just one of the costs of being the USERS filesharing portal.
I tend to agree a little bit.


You can't triple stamp a double stamp.
   
Reply With Quote
  (#4) Old
The Hunter Offline
Janitor
The Hunter Reputation is 2000The Hunter Reputation is 2000The Hunter Reputation is 2000The Hunter Reputation is 2000The Hunter Reputation is 2000The Hunter Reputation is 2000The Hunter Reputation is 2000The Hunter Reputation is 2000The Hunter Reputation is 2000The Hunter Reputation is 2000The Hunter Reputation is 2000
 
The Hunter's Avatar
 
Posts: 11,735
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Copperhead Road
Age: 56
Reputation Power: 752
January 19th, 2003, 07:14 PM

I sent IQ a pm about this, and i might have over stepped the rules, but if this is so all I that I have done is to try and make the site better.


Grow old along with me, the best is yet to be.
 Send a message via ICQ to The Hunter Send a message via MSN to The Hunter  
Reply With Quote
  (#5) Old
Jared592 Offline
Banned
Jared592 Reputation is 0
 
Jared592's Avatar
 
Posts: 327
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Philadelphia Area
Reputation Power: 0
January 19th, 2003, 07:30 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by The Hunter
I sent IQ a pm about this, and i might have over stepped the rules, but if this is so all I that I have done is to try and make the site better.
Personally, I think it would be a better idea to close threads (not delete them) no matter how feces-laden their content. Of course, if there's stuff in there that's not allowed here, edit it, but tag that you did the editing so you're not putting words in peoples' mouths.

Deleting poor threads is deleting history, leaving nothing to be learned. At least people can look at a closed thread and understand what went wrong and why it was closed (if it was closed for a legitimate reason according to posted forum rules).

The reason I quoted your post, Hunter, is because I think that by trying to work with people like that instead of making a broad public statement on your opinion of the matter without even talking directly to the person (iq, in this case) with the complaint, you condone more of a respectful and positive attitude in the forums.

Now that I'm a total dork for analyzing everything, I'm off to careen dangerously fast around Dead Man's Curve on a harley or other popular 50's-esque two-wheeled motor-vehicle.
  Send a message via AIM to Jared592  
Reply With Quote
  (#6) Old
iq214 Offline
Banned
iq214 Reputation is 0
 
iq214's Avatar
 
Posts: 325
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: wonderfull Copenhagen
Reputation Power: 0
January 19th, 2003, 08:08 PM

Jared you made some good observations, theres nothing wrong in analyzing things. My thread wasnt directed at Hunter personally, I just used the most esent example, the main points arent in any way personally directed towards any specific person. I just see things happening, you know, and I analyze too. Everybody whos been around here for more than two months know, or should know, that I have always applauded Hunters humane and insightfull point of view. That I feel ZP is moving in the wrong direction is a completely different matter.
   
Reply With Quote
  (#7) Old
MoonMan Offline
Zeropaid Forum Angel
MoonMan Reputation is 2000MoonMan Reputation is 2000MoonMan Reputation is 2000MoonMan Reputation is 2000MoonMan Reputation is 2000MoonMan Reputation is 2000MoonMan Reputation is 2000MoonMan Reputation is 2000MoonMan Reputation is 2000MoonMan Reputation is 2000MoonMan Reputation is 2000
 
MoonMan's Avatar
 
Posts: 4,008
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Dearborn
Age: 25
Reputation Power: 527
My views... - January 19th, 2003, 09:03 PM

I tend to agree with Cheapprick on most accounts.

The mods we have now are doing a pretty damn good job with some of the decisions they face. Seph is always making good examples, and the other mods (such as hunter) have been able to watch where they step while keeping the place intact. True there have been some times when I question a thread being deleted (like the "grab_grab???" thread wishing him a happy b-day) but most of it they are doing a fine job of.

I mean even with the new mods, compare this place with other file sharing portals.. it still stands out a great deal. And at least the new mods show up and take part, the old ones just up and left at some point.


“Workingmen of Europe feel sure as the American War of Independence initiated a new era of ascendancy for the middle class, so the American Antislavery War will do for the working classes.” - Karl Marx
   
Reply With Quote
  (#8) Old
Crazy Horse Offline
ZP Troll SWAT Team
Crazy Horse Reputation is 2000Crazy Horse Reputation is 2000Crazy Horse Reputation is 2000Crazy Horse Reputation is 2000Crazy Horse Reputation is 2000Crazy Horse Reputation is 2000Crazy Horse Reputation is 2000Crazy Horse Reputation is 2000Crazy Horse Reputation is 2000Crazy Horse Reputation is 2000Crazy Horse Reputation is 2000
 
Crazy Horse's Avatar
 
Posts: 3,956
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Northern California
Age: 55
Reputation Power: 318
January 19th, 2003, 09:51 PM

Quote:
Last, I think you are dead wrong. The mods have worked to clean up the site, and some people have found they have been asked to calm themselves, but remind yourself why they were appointed in the first place. People were leaving because every thread was an all-out flame war. That has stopped.
Quote:
I'm not just saying this because I consider each of them a friend, but rather because they are doing a job that most of us sure as hell wouldn't want.
Quote:
I mean even with the new mods, compare this place with other file sharing portals.. it still stands out a great deal. And at least the new mods show up and take part, the old ones just up and left at some point.
I never asked for this job. To tell ya the truth I don't know why I was picked. CheapPrick said it best - "They are doing a job most of us sure as hell would'nt want."

MoonMan: I'm here till they "fire" me. Rest assured I won't walk away and I don't think any of my "collegues" will either.

CheapPrick: I feel the same way about you and many, many others here. A heartfelt thank you!

I think once this full moon is over and the surgical culling we have had to do is over, the place will get back to normal. You know, the wild, all out, balls to the wind place we all have come to love and hate. So people - love us or hate us but remember we are not perfect - only human....I think !


May you always run with the wind at your back and good friends by your side.
Mitakuye Oyasin (All My Relations-We are All Related)

Other places you can find me at:
Slyck
P2PConsortium
Beat King
Napsterites
PCTechTalk

"Fear can hold you prisoner, hope can set you free."

"I guess it comes down
to a simple choice, really. Get
busy living or get busy dying."

(Both quotes from Shawshank Redemption)
   
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off




vBulletin Skin developed by: vBStyles.com