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Bytronix · **Riaa -** January 9th, 2003, 04:26 AM

Seems to be one of the hottest topics around here. What do you think? With the RIAA doing all the cracking down they are on illegal file swapping, do you think they themselves are doing everything 100% legal? Is the RIAA a bunch of hypocrites? Or, are they truely honest people just trying to make a buck? I think I already know the kind of replies this message might get. Which is partially why I'm writing this message. Personally, I'm finding all these posts about the RIAA to be extremely entertaining. It would be interesting to see an RIAA representative post on Zeropaid. So, back to the original question though... See the poll. Do you think that the RIAA has all of their computer software licenced? I just think it's interesting that they represent music, yet seem to say little to nothing about software. Well, that's all for now.

-Mike B.

maartendc · January 9th, 2003, 11:47 AM

Well, I guess asking money for music is legal, but the hacking into peoples pc's and forcing ISP's to block certain p2p ports isn't... I feel the internet shouldn't have regulations or something like that. It's always been like that. The internet is free. And the internet should be free in another way too. Nowadays you have to pay for more and more services on the net. I do not like this development at all! The internet is becoming less and less free. I mean, you already have to pay your Isp, and then you gotta pay to acces this site, or that database... it's just not right. People should find a way to get the internet free again....

Siskabush · January 9th, 2003, 10:33 PM

The RIAA is like the sultans of some countries

They make thier "hard earned" cash by the sweat and talents of thier members.

So, they are hypocrites, whining at us P2P users while they get thier money for free.

The **AA's have to go.

Tremaine · **obviosuly they dont -** January 10th, 2003, 01:15 PM

everyone does illegal stuff in there life and in life they probably still do, alot of people ar hypocrites in one way or another but that life.

method77 · January 10th, 2003, 07:41 PM

useless poll! I don't think anybody will vote that they are legit so what's the point?

trinio · 10:29 PM

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Originally posted by maartendc
Well, I guess asking money for music is legal, but the hacking into peoples pc's and forcing ISP's to block certain p2p ports isn't... I feel the internet shouldn't have regulations or something like that. It's always been like that. The internet is free. And the internet should be free in another way too. Nowadays you have to pay for more and more services on the net. I do not like this development at all! The internet is becoming less and less free. I mean, you already have to pay your Isp, and then you gotta pay to acces this site, or that database... it's just not right. People should find a way to get the internet free again....

I don't like this development either. However, (to be the devil's advocate), the fact is, putting stuff online does cost money. We've already seen that a lot of free stuff doesn't work, and companies have had to switch to a fee-based model just to recover the costs of the services they provide. As an Economics major, I learned early on that there is no such thing as a free lunch. With few exceptions, ppl usually don't do things just for the sake and the love of doing them. They are usually motivated by some sort of compensation. After all, for those of you who have jobs, would you be working right now if you didn't have to? Would you just go to work for free for the love of doing it? Didn't think so.

As far as breaking into ppl's computers and crap like that, I don't agree with it at all, and I think it needs to be stopped! Last time I checked, there are such things as privacy and property rights in this country! But that's a whole 'nuther rant for a whole 'nuther day.

TipYourBartender · January 10th, 2003, 10:48 PM

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Originally posted by trinio
Last time I checked, there are such things as privacy and property rights in this country!

You ought to check again, 'cuz that's been gone for a long time.

billme · January 11th, 2003, 12:03 AM

yeah, and the "war on terror" just makes it easier

Jared592 · January 11th, 2003, 01:38 AM

In response to the central question, YES, of course they're "licenced" (if you meant licensed). In their eyes, they're simply protecting their livelihood. Their vision is clouded but they're in power to act on the blips in their vision or they wouldn't be the RIAA.

LiberateMusic! · January 17th, 2003, 09:00 PM

We must never forget that the RIAA is a private business organisation. Unfortunately, even politicans in Washington seems to forget that - if they even know it. Many of them thinks that the RIAA is acting in the interest of Artists. It couldn't be more wrong. So when they put a bill through, they think they're doing something for the Artists..

It can only make you cry.

Bytronix · **Interesting Coincidence -** January 19th, 2003, 07:37 AM

Coincidentally, after I made the original post here I found an article (forgot where) about the music industry and the software industry joining together against piracy, the article pointed out though that oddly enough the MPAA did not join in. Why not? Again, one of those things that just doesn't make sence. Eh. Oh well.

-Mike B.

I'm off to read the posts!
-MJB

endersgame21 · January 21st, 2003, 10:23 PM

the riaa is doing everything legit but they are going in the wrong direction. they will never get rid of p2p. but they could use filesharing to their advantage

Jorge · January 21st, 2003, 10:28 PM

If anyone is interested, I will be apearing in USAToday tomorrow (weds) discussing this topic.

jorge

Shadow, Thief of the Sun · January 21st, 2003, 10:36 PM

Cover of album by metal band Overkill will say what i think about RIAA.

MusikBeatz23 · **Good Old Days... -** January 22nd, 2003, 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by maartendc
Well, I guess asking money for music is legal, but the hacking into peoples pc's and forcing ISP's to block certain p2p ports isn't... I feel the internet shouldn't have regulations or something like that. It's always been like that. The internet is free. And the internet should be free in another way too. Nowadays you have to pay for more and more services on the net. I do not like this development at all! The internet is becoming less and less free. I mean, you already have to pay your Isp, and then you gotta pay to acces this site, or that database... it's just not right. People should find a way to get the internet free again....

I remeber when the internet was FREE i mean literary FREE you had FREE INTERNET Acess and most of the isp where i think like 500 hours a month or unlimited.... but now we have 2 pay $ 40 or $ 23.90 and like you said pay 2 view sites thats messed up yet alone ger in trouble for file sharing... i bet if they ever censor file sharing 25% on the people who have internet acess would cut there ISP... :fire

View Poll Results: Is the RIAA licenced?
Yes, everyone at the RIAA has everything done 100% legit.	12	9.45%
Some stuff is, some stuff isn't.	58	45.67%
No, everyone at the RIAA does everything illigit.	57	44.88%
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Siskabush Offline ZP Trancecore Cussin Posts: 1,457 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Prince Albert, Sask. Age: 26 Reputation Power: 157	January 9th, 2003, 10:33 PM The RIAA is like the sultans of some countries They make thier "hard earned" cash by the sweat and talents of thier members. So, they are hypocrites, whining at us P2P users while they get thier money for free. The **AA's have to go.

Tremaine Offline 3 dimes 4 nickels Posts: 315 Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Age: 21 Reputation Power: 108	obviosuly they dont - January 10th, 2003, 01:15 PM everyone does illegal stuff in there life and in life they probably still do, alot of people ar hypocrites in one way or another but that life. Favorite P2P Programs KazaaLite...(K++) PTC client(Bittorrent) Emule(plus mod) Packetseek(IRC)

method77 Offline High Fidelity Posts: 1,509 Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Greece Age: 32 Reputation Power: 166	January 10th, 2003, 07:41 PM useless poll! I don't think anybody will vote that they are legit so what's the point? BeatKing

billme Offline Registered User Posts: 2 Join Date: Jan 2003 Age: 28 Reputation Power: 0	January 11th, 2003, 12:03 AM yeah, and the "war on terror" just makes it easier

Jared592 Offline Banned Posts: 327 Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Philadelphia Area Reputation Power: 0	January 11th, 2003, 01:38 AM In response to the central question, YES, of course they're "licenced" (if you meant licensed). In their eyes, they're simply protecting their livelihood. Their vision is clouded but they're in power to act on the blips in their vision or they wouldn't be the RIAA.

endersgame21 Offline Suppish Posts: 1,023 Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Northern California Age: 22 Reputation Power: 139	January 21st, 2003, 10:23 PM the riaa is doing everything legit but they are going in the wrong direction. they will never get rid of p2p. but they could use filesharing to their advantage

Jorge Offline Zeropaid God Posts: 3,012 Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: San Diego, Ca Age: 33 Reputation Power: 323	January 21st, 2003, 10:28 PM If anyone is interested, I will be apearing in USAToday tomorrow (weds) discussing this topic. jorge Follow me on Twitter