CRIA Orders ShutDown of What.cd, Other Major BitTorrent Trackers

[HelenaP]

CRIA Orders ShutDown of What.cd, Other Major BitTorrent Trackers
Written by enigmax on May 27, 2008

A company which hosts many BitTorrent trackers has been ordered by the CRIA to close at least four major sites. Moxie Colo was issued with cease and desist notices and ordered to hand over the owners data and site logs of What.cd, SumoTracker, BTMon and FullDls. They are told to simply close many other sites they host.

Canadian Police Tolerates Piracy For Personal Use
Those who believed that Canada would develop as one of the world’s BitTorrent safe-havens, are in for quite a surprise. Despite many people believing that torrent sites are operating legally in Canada, today popular Canadian BitTorrent host Moxie Colo was served with cease and desist orders, courtesy of the CRIA.

They specifically demand that the Moxie Colo stops hosting top ranked torrent sites What.cd, SumoTorrent, BTMon and FullDls. Generally, the CRIA is demanding that Moxie stop hosting all torrent sites.

TorrentFreak has been reporting recently on the plight of QuebecTorrent which is currently tied up in a legal battle against the music industry in Canada. Clearly that - and the running out of town of Demonoid - was just a run up to further action by an emboldened CRIA.

In files served on Moxie Communications Inc (the parent company of Moxie Colo), the CRIA is demanding that Moxie turn over the personal details of the torrent site administrators, presumably so they can go after them. The CRIA also want Moxie to turn over all relevant site logs, but it is at least unlikely that the Canadian police will be interested in most of the users.

Of course, just because the CRIA demands something, doesn’t mean they will get it. For now, Moxie Colo said it won’t be giving in to the CRIA’s demands.

Sean Corbin, CEO of Moxie Communications told TorrentFreak: “We will not be following the request and will be fighting for the rights of our clients as to date laws in Canada protect them. We have looked into the matter and from what we understand these sites are not breaking any laws in Canada. If we do not comply they might bring legal action against Moxie Communications, as they believe without us these sites could not do what they do so therefore we are as bad as they are.”

More on this breaking story as we get it.

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[El Comandante]

Originally Posted by HelenaP

Sean Corbin, CEO of Moxie Communications told TorrentFreak: “We will not be following the request and will be fighting for the rights of our clients as to date laws in Canada protect them. We have looked into the matter and from what we understand these sites are not breaking any laws in Canada.

Well at least someone has some balls. Clearly Demonoid did not.

[drtoker]

Originally Posted by El Comandante

Well at least someone has some balls. Clearly Demonoid did not.

That quote is from the ISP hosting the sites. Demonoid was a site, not an ISP. They could only do what their ISP was willing to do for them.
Good to see that this ISP has balls though...

[El Comandante]

Originally Posted by drtoker

That quote is from the ISP hosting the sites. Demonoid was a site, not an ISP. They could only do what their ISP was willing to do for them.
Good to see that this ISP has balls though...

I'm well aware of the difference. I am also aware of the difference between sites like Pirate Bay (who do not bend to empty legal threats) and sites like Demonoid (whose owners run for the hills at the first sign of trouble). If the law is with you.... take a stand...

I'm not Canadian but those here who are familiar with Canadian laws seem to think that downloading music in Canada is not illegal and that the CRIA does not represent Canadian musicians or labels.



Demonoid was under no legal obligation to comply with the CRIA’s threats and in fleeing Canada they set a dangerous precedent and betrayed their Canadian constituency.

[drtoker]

Well if you have different sources, please write them here. Last I read, their ISP stated they would take the site offline if the recieved any complaints. Once they recieved the notice, they pulled the site. The ISP was unwilling to take a stand, laws on their side or not.

This is the last info I read before the site came back online. You can't fight if your ISP has no backbone...

[El Comandante]

Originally Posted by drtoker

You can't fight if your ISP has no backbone...

Wrong.

You file for an injunction. You file a declaratory action. You sue for interference with business/contractual relations. You sue for slander. You get another ISP. You act like you have a pair..... because you do and because the law is on your side.

Try to go to Sweden and slap the Pirate Bay around. They know their laws and they use them. You know what they do with the pile of cease and desist letters they get ..... they wipe their ass with them.

http://thepiratebay.org/legal.php

An ISP allows you access to the WWW. It does not decide what your rights are or whether you should exercise and defend them. IMHO, Demonoid deserves ZERO respect.

I do not like them here or there. I do not like them anywhere. I do not like them in a box. I do not like them with a fox. I do not like them in a house. I do not like them with a mouse..... ehhh you get the point.

[HelenaP]

Originally Posted by El Comandante

... You act like you have a pair..... because you do and because the law is on your side.

Try to go to Sweden and slap the Pirate Bay around. They know their laws and they use them. You know what they do with the pile of cease and desist letters they get ..... they wipe their ass with them.

http://thepiratebay.org/legal.php
....

I do not like them here or there. I do not like them anywhere. I do not like them in a box. I do not like them with a fox. I do not like them in a house. I do not like them with a mouse..... ehhh you get the point.