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MistahMan · **How come WMX hasn't been hit yet? -** May 26th, 2002, 02:26 PM

I find it pretty odd that WinMX hasn't been hit with legal action yet since it seems to be growing in popularity.

papadoc · May 26th, 2002, 04:24 PM

WinMx would be to hard to hit because it uses a decentralized server.
There is no central location through which the MP3 files are shared,
making it virtually impossible to stop the trading on decentralized servers.

BlizzardofOZZ · May 27th, 2002, 01:49 AM

Is it possible for the **AAs to pull of a DMCA and forbid all websites from linking to the WinMX program? I know the programmers aren't responsible for what people do with their stuff but can they be found liable anyway?

Nikki88613 · May 27th, 2002, 03:13 PM

WinMX is Canadian!!! DMCA is not applicable outside the US!

dr. damn · May 27th, 2002, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nikki88613
WinMX is Canadian!!! DMCA is not applicable outside the US!

That should save some legal fees.

roger d · **northern exposure -** May 27th, 2002, 05:53 PM

Being north of the US reign of legal power could be the saving grace for this program. If you look at the legal agreement many things are spelled out very clearly. So get on this network and trade homework files.....:fire

MistahMan · **What?!? -** May 27th, 2002, 09:39 PM

WinMX is Canadian? Damn, who knew... I'm actually in Canada and didn't know this. What part of Canada is it from?

Fluid · May 28th, 2002, 07:58 AM

Actually, WinMX is just a client for a broader protocol called OpenNap that anyone can use to run Napster servers with :D

(Only WPNP depends on Frontcode)

wiggum · 02:17 PM

Quote:

What part of Canada is it from?

5527 Coronation
Windsor, Ontario N8T 1B2
CA

Souce: www.allwhois.com

It has not been sued because the RIAA don't tend to sue things they can't control. Plus the fact that it is outside the USA helps. I wonder if the canadian version of the RIAA have contacted them.

BlizzardofOZZ · May 30th, 2002, 12:25 AM

I wouldn't be surprised if the **AAs lobby Congress for economic sanctions on Canada until they pass the DMCA there.

eclectica · May 30th, 2002, 01:50 AM

Thank goodness for the Canadians, eh?

Wolfie · May 30th, 2002, 08:30 AM

Economic sanctions and NAFTA together, lmao? If any administration can justify such logic, its the current one, lmao!

ston · May 31st, 2002, 06:21 PM

Unfortunately the WinMX network is very vulnerable to being shutdown.

Because the peer cache is on servers operated by Frontcode and whose IP address is hardcoded into the Winmx application. If Frontcode was ordered to shutdown the Winmx peer cache servers, the Winmx network would die.

Other P2P's like LimeWire have a better defence against shutdown by allowing users to edit the settings and input another peer cache (operated by a 3rd party) in case LimeWire's official one is offline.

I think Winmx would be much better protected if it used this approach. Otherwise, the only possible way to input a different peer cache (and keep the network going in a shutdown) is for someone to hack the WinMX client .

eclectica · June 1st, 2002, 03:31 AM

I wonder if for now WinMX wants to keep control over things because they are not in threat of being shutdown, but I hope they have a "plan B" quick software upgrade ready, that they could pass out if it looked like a court might shut them down.

Xtaycee_n_your_coffee · **Shutdown -** June 1st, 2002, 01:18 PM

Oh well, if we can't dl mp's.. we might have to put them in a zip file, and trade like that.

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MistahMan Offline Zeropaid Regular Posts: 140 Join Date: May 2002 Age: 35 Reputation Power: 100	How come WMX hasn't been hit yet? - May 26th, 2002, 02:26 PM I find it pretty odd that WinMX hasn't been hit with legal action yet since it seems to be growing in popularity.

papadoc Offline Zeropaid Regular Posts: 46 Join Date: May 2002 Location: Old Rose Motel Reputation Power: 94	May 26th, 2002, 04:24 PM WinMx would be to hard to hit because it uses a decentralized server. There is no central location through which the MP3 files are shared, making it virtually impossible to stop the trading on decentralized servers.

BlizzardofOZZ Offline Zeropaid Regular Posts: 6 Join Date: Apr 2002 Reputation Power: 0	May 27th, 2002, 01:49 AM Is it possible for the **AAs to pull of a DMCA and forbid all websites from linking to the WinMX program? I know the programmers aren't responsible for what people do with their stuff but can they be found liable anyway?

Nikki88613 Offline Registered User Posts: 3 Join Date: Apr 2002 Reputation Power: 0	May 27th, 2002, 03:13 PM WinMX is Canadian!!! DMCA is not applicable outside the US!

roger d Offline Mitakuye Oyasin Posts: 147 Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: old copper mine in AZ Age: 59 Reputation Power: 102	northern exposure - May 27th, 2002, 05:53 PM Being north of the US reign of legal power could be the saving grace for this program. If you look at the legal agreement many things are spelled out very clearly. So get on this network and trade homework files.....:fire streambeam me up scotty

MistahMan Offline Zeropaid Regular Posts: 140 Join Date: May 2002 Age: 35 Reputation Power: 100	What?!? - May 27th, 2002, 09:39 PM WinMX is Canadian? Damn, who knew... I'm actually in Canada and didn't know this. What part of Canada is it from?

Fluid Offline Zeropaid Regular Posts: 5 Join Date: May 2002 Location: Maastricht, The Netherlands Age: 29 Reputation Power: 0	May 28th, 2002, 07:58 AM Actually, WinMX is just a client for a broader protocol called OpenNap that anyone can use to run Napster servers with :D (Only WPNP depends on Frontcode)

BlizzardofOZZ Offline Zeropaid Regular Posts: 6 Join Date: Apr 2002 Reputation Power: 0	May 30th, 2002, 12:25 AM I wouldn't be surprised if the **AAs lobby Congress for economic sanctions on Canada until they pass the DMCA there.

eclectica Offline p2p jihad Posts: 277 Join Date: May 2002 Location: 73.98W, 40.65N Reputation Power: 105	May 30th, 2002, 01:50 AM Thank goodness for the Canadians, eh?

eclectica Offline p2p jihad Posts: 277 Join Date: May 2002 Location: 73.98W, 40.65N Reputation Power: 105	June 1st, 2002, 03:31 AM I wonder if for now WinMX wants to keep control over things because they are not in threat of being shutdown, but I hope they have a "plan B" quick software upgrade ready, that they could pass out if it looked like a court might shut them down.

Xtaycee_n_your_coffee Offline Spaceships on Bankhead... Posts: 35 Join Date: May 2002 Location: Behind the Flashing lights Reputation Power: 96	Shutdown - June 1st, 2002, 01:18 PM Oh well, if we can't dl mp's.. we might have to put them in a zip file, and trade like that.