Direct connect is not " The only thing File sharing needs "

[GTA]

We were all new to filesharing at one time. Some of us used 56k or lower at one time. So I wonder when people say "DC is the only thing file sharing needs to stay alive" Thats not true. Where would new people to file sharing go? DC was the first program I tried and EVERY hub I went to kicked me becouse I didn't share enough. That sucks. Then I finally found one that let me stay and they didn't have anything. So DC really is not "THE BEST" Its not the all around "BEST" program. Please nobody say that again.

[gorphon]

I havent heard anyone say that but I must agree with the assessment. the key here is the word NEEDS.... and while the statment is a generalizxtion and could be said about any number of programs and methods for transfer of information it is still true.

What that statement means is this: if fast track, gnutella, irc, newsgroups, opennap, and all the others were to somehow be shut down, DC would more likely than not still be around due to the nature of the program itself and sites like no-ip.org. Now this is unlikely of course, some of those other programs I listed have been around much longer than DC and will still be here far in the future...

And, if we are talking about the survival of filesharing, the learning curve could soon be much steeper, making it more difficult for newbies to learn. So, the statement made is still, fo all intents and purposes true. Survival and ease of use are two seperate things. Luckily, we are not at that point yet and you have a wide range of progs to choose from.

But, perhaps ZP should offer a section for how to *backup* cd's. dvds. and games that we have purchased.... that is the best way for newbies to get involved in the scene... and gone would be the days of people having any right to complain about not being able to get files. The more effort you put in on DC the more you get out of it, thats the beauty of the program and its also what turns many people off about it. After all, the majority of us DO live in an instant gratification minded society.

[method]

I think the people who've said it's "best" are those with large shares and broadband...

it's not the best... it has plenty of flaws and as seph as pointed out in the past, it's a dead end protocol.

However, if you've got files, got broadband and tried DC or DC++ for a while, you'll just look at 90% of the other networks and go... "wow.. all that complicated shit (swarmloading, hostcaches, multisourcing, participation ratings, verification links, sig2dat, etc.. ,etc..) for what?!?!? - less than what i get from single sources on DC!!"

I AM very pro DC and DC++, they might not be the best.. but nothing is.. It's just good for the big-sharers and fast-connecters..

If you've got few files or you're on dial-up (c'mon... it's 2003 nearly!!!).. you're bound to be pissed off with Direct Connect. Don't blame you to be honest, if i was on dial-up and had no files... i don't think i'd like it either!!!

[Ken17625]

It's not "the only thing file sharing needs". I like it because I have broadband and I share 15 gigs of shareable stuff. But no, its not everyones answer. Whoever claimed that is wrong.

[GTA]

I think the person that said that was in the thread "Shareaza sucks but great" I think thats what it was called.

[rubberman]

dead end protocol? What ya mean by that. Do you think it won't last long cause it doesn't have all the fancy technologies that other networks have? IRc uses a decade old protocol, and it's still the most popular file trading tool out there.

[notbob]

Originally posted by GTA
We were all new to filesharing at one time. Some of us used 56k or lower at one time. So I wonder when people say "DC is the only thing file sharing needs to stay alive" Thats not true. Where would new people to file sharing go? DC was the first program I tried and EVERY hub I went to kicked me becouse I didn't share enough. That sucks.

just because you are new to filesharing is no excuse to not have enough files for dc--rip your dvd collection to divx, rip your cd collection, hell you can rip the libraries' cd collection for free

don't give the lame-ass "my hard drive isn't big enough" either--they are less than 100$ (us) for an 80GB, and are easy as hell to install

it would be impossible to shut down, unlike winmx and kazaa which are server dependent (at least to a certain point depending on who you believe)--these companies own servers--dc is great (even if not actively developed) because ANYBODY can run a server/hub and can do it for as long as 1 copy of the program exists (client/hub) anyone can start it back up

so to sum it up DIRECT CONNECT IS THE ONLY P2P ANYONE WILL EVER NEED

i'll never use another

[movieman]

If you haven't heard, I'm a DC hub owner.

I have owned my own hub for some time and enjoy meeting new and interesting people while running my hub. That is what originally sparked my interest in DC. I like the idea that I can "know" the person I am downloading a file from before I download it. Even if it's in a very very small way.

I'm not saying that DC is "the only" p2p we all need but I'm sure it's a great way to share files and make good use of any BW you have available (28.8k or higher).

I am running a hub on 56k dial up at the moment and allow any user with 100 mb of "good" share to join. The hubs who only want 20GB+ are only looking to advance themselves and no others.

I now it sound rediculous to be running a hub on 56k dial up but it works for me. Beside's I have found a great many scripts to keep out unwanted files (ie. underage porn,large useless files,vob's...ect...) I have "Triviabot", "FAQbot"(I developed) and many more fun add-ons.

Anyway, I d'gress, it's a great p2p to use. Share what you have and go to hubs you know will let you in and you will increase your shared files tremendouslly!

And HEY! ... Have fun...that's what it's all about isn't it?

cya soon.... :D

[OrangeMoon]

i like DC and NOW DC is pretty good for a almost
all broadband users.
But it must get declining in the future.
perhaps this may be coming soon.
Do you know the open nap server that require
a larege amount of mp3 like 60GB and register?
many hubs will require rediculeous amount
and register.
and then a almost newbies for DC cant hang on
any DC hubs.
at last we forget DC...

In my cuntry ,all experts at p2p use opennap server.
they trade every categorys files,not only mp3 but also
movie,software etc.
but i cant login the server they login because
the servers require redicureous amount
and somethin crap,so its very hard
to get rare materials in my mother language.
a almost files belong to FEW experts.
only little mainstream files be relrased for
newbies.

i have 1,5Mbps ADSL and my 80GB secondary
hard disk is full,but..........

[ShareDamnYou]

yeah ture you need at least a gig to get on the shityist server and there is no swarming but that will come soon but on dc there is more files than any outer p2p network and i think everyone should learn somthing form DC forcing ppl to share works! but it is realy sad that some one has not made dc swarmable.
(if you want to be cheep just pop in a dvd share it that is a coupple gig right there i just did that at the begenning now i have like 15 gig in my shared folder.)

DC IS A MUST P2P PROG!!!!

[Sephiroth]

Direct Connect is not that great the protocol sucks so its pretty much frozen in its current form and it cannot support swarming because of how the protocol was poorly designed which it is because a pipe | in somones name and crash a hub and you cannot use $ dollar signs. Also this program is just as vurnable as open nap..

And the only way if you want to get anything is to stay on the "hub" for long hours which some admins expect people to stay on for hours and hours and share a ton of files..

It is not that great IMHO.. I have had no success with it ive tried everything that ive could have done so dont suggest anything and ive tried it numerous times.

I dont like the program itself, the setup, and the stupid restrictions and the attitudes of most of the hub owners.. I also dont think that this is a very good method because it does discriminate against narrowband and people without the hard drive space or files or who cannot run DC as a server in the hub..

Its all a huge hassle and the problem is that not that many people want to jump through hoops to get files. I believe that people shouldnt have to jump hoops and bend backwards.. I think its unneeded..

And IMHO there are alot less frustrating ways to do it and it just proves forcing people to share doesnt mean that downloads will always be faster or better. It doesnt work like that.

[notbob]

bah humbug!

on my hub i don't expect anyone to stay--in fact, i assume they WILL leave--but i don't care, because with mosearch, i can just go find THEM!

the beauty of dc is that you queue up all the stuff you want and just let it run instead of the constant babysitting opennap requires, or the complete lack of files on gnutella

and i have never once encountered a fake file(movie, music, anything) (empty folder to up their share size, yes)

try saying that on any of the other networks

[Sephiroth]

Thats just your hub.. Others arent like that way. Leave i meant shut the program down. Your assuming they have gone to some other hub and i dont believe that you really need to track someone down to get a file there are easier ways.

Like i said unless your going to run a server queue everything up and let it sit your probaby not going to have and good experiances with direct connect..

You are babysitting.. Your running a hub, watching chat, running scripts, queuing, tracking down "sources", and etc.. Like i said bending over backwards for a file.

The majority of fake files are extreemely easy to detect and avoid.

[notbob]

i actually look at the hub maybe an hour a day--scripts kick most of the fakes without my help--the rest of the time i'm not even home--i'm at work or school (or asleep)

[Sephiroth]

You dont have to be there to be bending over backwards.. Your running a server and running scripts and etc. just to be able to download files.. It seems pretty extreeme to me.