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Angry Dad · **Best IM /Chat client -** October 4th, 2002, 11:47 PM

Looking for a small easy to use instant messenger\ chat client.Your recommendations please.

acc · **All your IM are belong to us! -** October 4th, 2002, 11:57 PM

Jabber.

Jabber Jabber.

Jabber Jabber Jabber Jabber Jabber Jabber Jabber Jabber Jabber Jabber Jabber Jabber Jabber Jabber Jabber Jabber Jabber Jabber ...

Jabber.

lion7718 · October 5th, 2002, 03:07 AM

Has to be Trillian

Juggalo15 · **Hmm.... -** October 5th, 2002, 05:57 AM

THere are a lot of chat "thingies" out there.The best of course are the originals:Yahoo,MSN,ICQ,and AIM.If you want a chat client that can connect to all of them choose trillian right now.I use praize instant messener because I'm pretty religious and this fits me pretty well.... Praize.com

SnakeAnarchy · October 5th, 2002, 07:01 AM

trillian's the best

nice i never met a juggalo that belived in organized religion

acc · **Jabber > Trillian -** October 5th, 2002, 07:46 AM

Trillian is futile.

Jabber supports multiple transports (ICQ, AIM, IRC, MSN, Yahoo) and secure (i.e. encrypted) chat over SSL just like Trillian

BUT...

Jabber is taking a more active role in unifying chat: they're currently working with the IETF to establish a chatting standard.
Jabber has its own network, so you don't have to use any of the proprietary ones!
With Jabber you're not tied to 1 client. There are MANY clients (and a few different servers) available so you can choose what you like.
Jabber is based on open standards so you can roll your own client, server, bot, transport, etc.
Jabber communicates using XML (AFAIK, Trillian is only SKINNABLE using XML), making it totally extendable.
Most Jabber clients are FREE! There's nothing to say that you (or someone else) can charge for a client, but you don't have to shell out $25 to get away from spyware/adware.

ALL YOUR IM ARE BELONG TO US.

MorningSon · October 5th, 2002, 08:39 AM

Trillian all the way,

a friend of mine made an interesting comment about the two:

"AOL's response to trillian is that its not true system intergration, it just hacks into the servers, AOL's response to jabber is......fuck you"

acc · October 5th, 2002, 10:22 PM

MorningSon, that sounds familiar. In fact, "fuck you" sounds ~exactly~ like what Monkey$oft said to Linux initially. Now they're jumping through hoops just to be mentioned in the same sentence!

One by one, users are wisening up and migrating to open systems. The net flux is from closed systems toward open ones, not the other way around.

Open systems will eventually obliterate proprietary ones. Embrace them or be left behind.

SnakeAnarchy · **Re: Jabber > Trillian -** October 6th, 2002, 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by acc
Trillian is futile.

Jabber supports multiple transports (ICQ, AIM, IRC, MSN, Yahoo) and secure (i.e. encrypted) chat over SSL just like Trillian

BUT...
Jabber is taking a more active role in unifying chat: they're currently working with the IETF to establish a chatting standard.

Jabber has its own network, so you don't have to use any of the proprietary ones!

With Jabber you're not tied to 1 client. There are MANY clients (and a few different servers) available so you can choose what you like.

Jabber is based on open standards so you can roll your own client, server, bot, transport, etc.

Jabber communicates using XML (AFAIK, Trillian is only SKINNABLE using XML), making it totally extendable.

Most Jabber clients are FREE! There's nothing to say that you (or someone else) can charge for a client, but you don't have to shell out $25 to get away from spyware/adware.

ALL YOUR IM ARE BELONG TO US.

personaly i used jabber and it doesnt impress me

I think Trillian is more stable and more complete then Jabber

The skining is much better and the results looks even better then jabber

Trillia has Secure IM Encryption

Trillian has plugins wqich is way better since it will help trillian evolve and not become bloatware. You can decide what to add and not to add, and there are some awsome plugins out there.

Soon the SDK will support the ablity to add new mediums, this means that jabber could soon be part of trillian.

smalltimehustler · October 6th, 2002, 08:40 PM

I think its alright by me (trillian that is) it makes a nice change from MSNmessenger ,gotta say i havent tried Jabber?? though

ckjnigel · **EasyMessage 2.2 -** October 6th, 2002, 09:34 PM

You can get it from download.com . The original question said "small", and you'll not find one smaller or easier on system resources. Easy Message is in a new development cycle leading up to a 3.0 release with plenty new features. 239,433 really good bytes! :shy

evilmegaman · October 6th, 2002, 09:55 PM

Gaim or mirandaicq those are great! They support jabber and all kinds! Miranda IM here and gaim. Quite good and open source! Trillian also used some of gaims source code :) and it was also the Sourceforge project of the year!:devil

Angry Dad · **Gone Trillian -** October 6th, 2002, 10:21 PM

Thanks guys for all your advice. decided on trillian as more people say it is the most stable and kind on the old resources.But thanks again for all your input.

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Angry Dad Offline Zeropaid Regular Posts: 18 Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: New Zealand Reputation Power: 0	Best IM /Chat client - October 4th, 2002, 11:47 PM Looking for a small easy to use instant messenger\ chat client.Your recommendations please.

acc Offline Registered User Posts: 3 Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Logan, UT Age: 36 Reputation Power: 0	All your IM are belong to us! - October 4th, 2002, 11:57 PM Jabber. Jabber Jabber. Jabber Jabber Jabber Jabber Jabber Jabber Jabber Jabber Jabber Jabber Jabber Jabber Jabber Jabber Jabber Jabber Jabber Jabber ... Jabber.

lion7718 Offline The Big Cat Posts: 831 Join Date: Apr 2002 Reputation Power: 141	October 5th, 2002, 03:07 AM Has to be Trillian P2P Consortium

Juggalo15 Offline THe Poet p2p'er Posts: 259 Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: West Virginia Age: 22 Reputation Power: 101	Hmm.... - October 5th, 2002, 05:57 AM THere are a lot of chat "thingies" out there.The best of course are the originals:Yahoo,MSN,ICQ,and AIM.If you want a chat client that can connect to all of them choose trillian right now.I use praize instant messener because I'm pretty religious and this fits me pretty well.... Praize.com

SnakeAnarchy Offline Anti-Everything Posts: 248 Join Date: Jul 2002 Reputation Power: 102	October 5th, 2002, 07:01 AM trillian's the best nice i never met a juggalo that belived in organized religion www.SnakeAnarchy.tk "Killing for peace is like fucking for chastity" "Destroy Power not People" "I rather die on my feet then live on my knees"

smalltimehustler Offline Zeropaid Regular Posts: 6 Join Date: Jun 2002 Reputation Power: 0	October 6th, 2002, 08:40 PM I think its alright by me (trillian that is) it makes a nice change from MSNmessenger ,gotta say i havent tried Jabber?? though Everyone had an uncle who tried to steal their nose

ckjnigel Offline Registered User Posts: 1 Join Date: May 2002 Reputation Power: 0	EasyMessage 2.2 - October 6th, 2002, 09:34 PM You can get it from download.com . The original question said "small", and you'll not find one smaller or easier on system resources. Easy Message is in a new development cycle leading up to a 3.0 release with plenty new features. 239,433 really good bytes! :shy

Angry Dad Offline Zeropaid Regular Posts: 18 Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: New Zealand Reputation Power: 0	Gone Trillian - October 6th, 2002, 10:21 PM Thanks guys for all your advice. decided on trillian as more people say it is the most stable and kind on the old resources.But thanks again for all your input.