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Automating Computer Maintenance - May 25th, 2005, 01:11 AM

All computer users--especially those who use P2P applications--should take a few steps to keep their computers in good shape. In this article I will outline the steps I've taken to automate most of the process using the Scheduled Tasks functionality of Windows.

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May 25th, 2005, 01:39 AM

Thank you CPU! This will definitely serve to be handy, especially after just building my first system. I'm much obliged!


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June 6th, 2005, 05:21 PM

When you want to ¨automate¨computer maintence then cron is your friend. Infact both Mac osx and Linux do basic disk clean up for you.

The problem with your documentation is that it is misleading. It causes MORE problems than that its worth. For one running ANY disk defragmentation or scan/check disk will make the OS distable. OR when the OS has found an out of place cluster, you have NOT told the user what to do. Thus if the user deletes this important info as just ´junk´ then Microsoft windows then becomes corupt and then will not run. Even system restore and the registry restore will fail of course the registry will fail anyways.

The problem of course is that Microsoft windows is and cannot survive long uptimes. It is NOT a multiuser platform and it is not a reliable system for such reasources that you recommend. It was never designed to be such a thing! By the time a user goes through such steps they are no more better off or they are far worse since now windows is using twice as more ram than usual or is taking twice as much disk space for no other reason than a full and complete ´defragmantation´ of the hard drive.

Of course there is a way to keep windows runnning smoothly. That is to re install it. Every 6 months! It does not matter if it Windows 95 to Windows XPsp2! That is THE ONLY solution! This includes keeping the hard ware dust free since windows is VERY hard on hardware and any heat buildup will only cause even MORE problems! So as you reinstall Windows AND your patches Pluse Software and reinstall all your files a rebuild of the phycial box may be nessessary to keep things in order!


As for virus definitions and anti-spyware. They can only protect you of what they know or what they ´feel´ like is a threat. Thus your only 32% protected. But thats better than non at all!
   
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June 6th, 2005, 05:28 PM

Not trying to bash the article to absolute abyss. But its easy to run over a .dll file and have windows disapear on you no matter what version it is. Remember this is an OS that has not changed since 1985!

a good reinstall every 6 months WILL solve all dependencies and keep things working smooth. Of course that also takes a lot of work. But in the windows world. What else is new.
   
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Not trying to bash the article to absolute abyss. But its easy to run over a .dll file and have windows disapear on you no matter what version it is. Remember this is an OS that has not changed since 1985!

a good reinstall every 6 months WILL solve all dependencies and keep things working smooth. Of course that also takes a lot of work. But in the windows world. What else is new.

if it hasn't changed since 1985 genius, why didn't they leave it on 3 floppies?

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if it hasn't changed since 1985 genius, why didn't they leave it on 3 floppies?

take your mac love to another thread
LOL. "Mac Love." I think what was meant was that with a holistic approach, microsoft and would rather "ship, sell and patch later" than "ensure a solid OS." But, that said, no OS will run all the poorly coded software lurking on the net.

People will always find an alternative, and moan about the present just because there is an alternnative, not because it is any better.

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June 6th, 2005, 08:04 PM

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When you want to ¨automate¨computer maintence then cron is your friend.
Perhaps I should change the name of the guide to Automating Maintenance on your Windows Computer.
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Infact both Mac osx and Linux do basic disk clean up for you
It's a moot point to compare either of those operating systems to Windows in this particular instance. OS X and Linux programs tend to delete their own temporary files after they use them. It's not the operating system that does it.

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The problem with your documentation is that it is misleading. It causes MORE problems than that its worth. For one running ANY disk defragmentation or scan/check disk will make the OS distable.
Absolutely not true. Where did you get this information?

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OR when the OS has found an out of place cluster, you have NOT told the user what to do.
My mistake. Perhaps I will elaborate on it.

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Thus if the user deletes this important info as just ´junk´ then Microsoft windows then becomes corupt and then will not run.
You're skipping around, but I think here you're referring to adding additional delete commands into the batch file. It is not my intent that the user go and delete files that he does not know what they are. Maybe I should add another line stating that, but I thought the "BE VERY CAREFUL..." statement would cover it.
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Even system restore and the registry restore will fail of course the registry will fail anyways.
I'm not sure what you meant by this line. If it's in some way connected to deleting important files, sure. Don't delete files that you don't know what they do.

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The problem of course is that Microsoft windows is and cannot survive long uptimes. It is NOT a multiuser platform and it is not a reliable system for such reasources that you recommend. It was never designed to be such a thing! By the time a user goes through such steps they are no more better off or they are far worse since now windows is using twice as more ram than usual or is taking twice as much disk space for no other reason than a full and complete ´defragmantation´ of the hard drive.
You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. A Windows system without viruses or spyware can stay up for a very very long time. Running scheduled tasks doesn't take up "twice as much more ram than usual" or "twice as much disk space". Do you know what the defragmentation process actually does?

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Of course there is a way to keep windows runnning smoothly. That is to re install it. Every 6 months! It does not matter if it Windows 95 to Windows XPsp2! That is THE ONLY solution!
I haven't reinstalled Windows on my personal computer in 2.5 years. It's still running quite well.

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This includes keeping the hard ware dust free since windows is VERY hard on hardware and any heat buildup will only cause even MORE problems!
I hate to break it to you, but dust is a multi-platform problem. It doesn't matter what software the computer is running: dust and heat buildup will always be a problem.

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So as you reinstall Windows AND your patches Pluse Software and reinstall all your files a rebuild of the phycial box may be nessessary to keep things in order!
Did I mention I haven't reinstalled Windows on my machine for 2.5 years?


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As for virus definitions and anti-spyware. They can only protect you of what they know or what they ´feel´ like is a threat. Thus your only 32% protected. But thats better than non at all!
32%? I'd quit while you're ahead. Pulling numbers out of your ass isn't going to make you look any wiser.


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June 6th, 2005, 08:38 PM

Lol, Intense breakdown CPU..:D

EndGame really is just making stuff up...I'm running on the same file system I had when I installed Win98 back in 2000; then I installed XP in 2002 and converted my FAT32 filesystem to NTFS and I'm still running on this filesystem to date! I have never had to reinstall Windows ever since I purchased this computer 5 years ago. I still have all my old Win98 documents, even some games I kept during the upgrade. My computer is still running smooth even with the drastic hardware/software changes (Had 3 different GPUs, changed motherboard, changed burners, plus all the multiple free/shareware programs I installed and uninstalled, and multiple Windows OS modifications as well)

I think I only recieved one blue screen in XP, and that was a hardware problem. I never had to used XP's System restore..I even forgot about it until now...So smooth sailing for me.

I think you just have to be knowledgeable on what programs/files are good or bad for your computer and how to maintain the data stored on the HD.

Which leads into the whole purpose of this thread..maintenence. I think it's about time for me to do a defrag, haven't done one since November... EKK I know some people that do one every two weeks, and this schedualing feature is probably how they do it.

Thanks for the guide CPU...I will take it for a test :D
   
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June 6th, 2005, 09:58 PM

lol wish windows would go faster. All these tweaks and bs i've tried and done the performance is minimal at best. Maybe the Windows "Eigen" might strip the bloat out of windows. Who knows, i so do not want to switch to Linux.
   
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June 6th, 2005, 10:01 PM

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All computer users--especially those who use P2P applications--should take a few steps to keep their computers in good shape. In this article I will outline the steps I've taken to automate most of the process using the Scheduled Tasks functionality of Windows.

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I'm lazy. Can you automate the process of automating computer maintenance?

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June 6th, 2005, 10:43 PM

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Perhaps I should change the name of the guide to Automating Maintenance on your Windows Computer.
That could be a start.

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It's a moot point to compare either of those operating systems to Windows in this particular instance. OS X and Linux programs tend to delete their own temporary files after they use them. It's not the operating system that does it.
Right...... So Every OS out there Exept windows does not produce the junk windows produces and when that junk is produced and one DOES delete it that DOES cause more harm than good! So how is it a moot point? Because windows cannot seem to get rid of its files properly and mislables critical files?


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Absolutely not true. Where did you get this information?
Absolutely TRUE! And I get it from experiance PLUS from genuine people that actually USE windows and not from fan boys that may pretend to use windows but don´t do anything but play games all day!

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My mistake. Perhaps I will elaborate on it.


You're skipping around, but I think here you're referring to adding additional delete commands into the batch file. It is not my intent that the user go and delete files that he does not know what they are. Maybe I should add another line stating that, but I thought the "BE VERY CAREFUL..." statement would cover it.

I'm not sure what you meant by this line. If it's in some way connected to deleting important files, sure. Don't delete files that you don't know what they do.
You have´t worked with windows have you? You just want people to think you have. Here I will type this for the rest of the people. Windows does not state it has found this file related to this file and or this file structure therefore it is not a good idea to delete it. All it says is Windows has found the following problem .

CHK000001.CHK do you want windows to correct the problem? or ignore it?

If the user does NOT select ignore and then selects the correct problem this could lead to windows deleting that important file thus leading windows to then corupt itself. Great! You just ran the people you tried to help right into a brick wall!

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You don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
LOL, Who was stupid enough to write a paper on this crap! Yep it seems the ONLY one shooting crap here my friend is you. You just don´t like the fact that people out there arn´t as stupid as you think and going to fuck up their computers following your stupid advice.


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A Windows system without viruses or spyware can stay up for a very very long time.
Now you are really talking out of your arse!


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Running scheduled tasks doesn't take up "twice as much more ram than usual" or "twice as much disk space". Do you know what the defragmentation process actually does?
The question is do you? Obviously not since you have no idea what damge Microsofts own defrag and scan disk programs can do to a hard disk.

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I haven't reinstalled Windows on my personal computer in 2.5 years. It's still running quite well.
More bullshit.


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I hate to break it to you, but dust is a multi-platform problem. It doesn't matter what software the computer is running: dust and heat buildup will always be a problem.
But when an OS takes HUGE amout of process power, ram and hardrive power CONSTANTLY with that kind of heat build up PLUS heat, dust becomes a serous problem WITH windows compared to alternative OSes. So no its NOT a multi os problem. Its a problem yes but when the OS demands so much from the hardware to begin with then you HAVE to watch out for that.

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Did I mention I haven't reinstalled Windows on my machine for 2.5 years?
Yes, did I mention your full of shit?


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32%? I'd quit while you're ahead. Pulling numbers out of your ass isn't going to make you look any wiser.
Yep Like the ´I haven't reinstalled Windows on my machine for 2.5 years?´ that sentence makes you look like a complete moron. Oh well.

no point arguing


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June 6th, 2005, 10:48 PM

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Lol, Intense breakdown CPU..:D

EndGame really is just making stuff up...I'm running on the same file system I had when I installed Win98 back in 2000; then I installed XP in 2002 and converted my FAT32 filesystem to NTFS and I'm still running on this filesystem to date! I have never had to reinstall Windows ever since I purchased this computer 5 years ago. I still have all my old Win98 documents, even some games I kept during the upgrade. My computer is still running smooth even with the drastic hardware/software changes (Had 3 different GPUs, changed motherboard, changed burners, plus all the multiple free/shareware programs I installed and uninstalled, and multiple Windows OS modifications as well)

I think I only recieved one blue screen in XP, and that was a hardware problem. I never had to used XP's System restore..I even forgot about it until now...So smooth sailing for me.

I think you just have to be knowledgeable on what programs/files are good or bad for your computer and how to maintain the data stored on the HD.

Which leads into the whole purpose of this thread..maintenence. I think it's about time for me to do a defrag, haven't done one since November... EKK I know some people that do one every two weeks, and this schedualing feature is probably how they do it.

Thanks for the guide CPU...I will take it for a test :D

Linux, 4 years uptime minimum! NO crashes, viruses or spyware! The majority or windows I had to fix is WindowsXPsp2 being that I am in I.T.

So I´m not making stuff up. I said if you WANT a no hassle windows box, virus free, spyware free and will last you a life time then an install every 6 months is nessessary. Sure you could be lucky and not hit anything but I bet you 5 bucks you are at least infected with something and that the bottem line!

If what you say is true then there wouldn´t be people coming in droves to get their machines repaired in droves. You can´t blame the people all of the time. Microsoft has been out since 1985 and nothing has changed.


Its not about left vs right, america vs europe, christans vs islam, red vs blue, liberals vs republicans etc. Its about stoping Nazism at all cost! Whether they be from the old of germany under hitler (WW 1 and 2) or that of bush draped in the red white and blue, under the disguise of fighting 'terror' and bringing 'democracy and freedom,' it is STILL wrong! Genecide is Still not right! no matter WHAT the reason is!

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June 6th, 2005, 10:55 PM

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if it hasn't changed since 1985 genius, why didn't they leave it on 3 floppies?

take your mac love to another thread

Lets see. same viruses, trojans and spyware!

Same exploits!

same amounts of crashes and bad driver support!

same interface exept for xp´s tella tubby theme! yep 1985! and the only reason its not on 3 floppys anymore is because of the unessessary bloat! a pentium 4 with 2 gigs of ram 240 gig hd JUST to do the same thing as a 486 on 2mb and 500mb HD!

P.S. I don´t use mac although they too make a teriffic OS! Perhaps you should stop your mac bigitory remarks! Just makes you look like an idiot. I´m a linux user thanx!


Its not about left vs right, america vs europe, christans vs islam, red vs blue, liberals vs republicans etc. Its about stoping Nazism at all cost! Whether they be from the old of germany under hitler (WW 1 and 2) or that of bush draped in the red white and blue, under the disguise of fighting 'terror' and bringing 'democracy and freedom,' it is STILL wrong! Genecide is Still not right! no matter WHAT the reason is!

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hey mods--want to delete that retard?

he's totally crapping up a good helpful thread with idiotic blabber

Since all your doing is acusing eveyone that does not agree with the primary post or you for that matter as mac lovers how about you move on. Since we don´t need a mac racist or any other kind of racist on zeropaid!


Its not about left vs right, america vs europe, christans vs islam, red vs blue, liberals vs republicans etc. Its about stoping Nazism at all cost! Whether they be from the old of germany under hitler (WW 1 and 2) or that of bush draped in the red white and blue, under the disguise of fighting 'terror' and bringing 'democracy and freedom,' it is STILL wrong! Genecide is Still not right! no matter WHAT the reason is!

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