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The Enterprise Vs. a Star Destroyer - January 13th, 2005, 02:39 PM

Who would win in a fight? The Enterprise (the newest coolest most hi tech version or whatever) or a Star Destroyer? How? Why?

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If given the opportunity I may enter the Battlestar Galactica and/or Space Battleship Yamato (Argo) into the fight. This is at my discretion.

Babylon Five shall not at any point enter the discussion.

Anyone who mentions Farscape will be politely reminded that, inventive writing and superb special effects for a television show aside, Moya is a wimp.

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January 13th, 2005, 02:42 PM

lol whats the question. I have no idea who would win...
   
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January 13th, 2005, 02:48 PM

Well if Kirk, instead of that spineless idiot, Archer, was at the helm, then Enterprise would undoubtedly win, hands down. I hated quantum leap too! Scott Bakula sucks the big galactic banana!!!! t'pol is a much different story though.....she's hot!


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January 13th, 2005, 02:51 PM

LOL is this a real question guys?

You realise a Star Destroyer is huge, Enterprise would get the snot beat out of it.
(there are more than 1,400 crew on a SD while there are only 1,400 crew on the enterprise.)

Especially with Admiral Thrawn at the helm, a fleet of SD could take out Star Fleet.


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January 13th, 2005, 02:58 PM

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Especially with Admiral Thrawn at the helm, a feet of SD could take out Star Fleet.
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January 13th, 2005, 03:04 PM

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NCC-1701-D would be the one I would say would make mensmeat out of a Star Destroyer. A galaxy class star ship is the way to go. The battle would last about an 1/2 an hour and no more SD and that if they are toying with them. 6 may be 8 photons torpeado to destroy a SD

NCC-1701-E would use 2 quantium torpeado to destroy the SD

A Borg Cube weapon would cut though the armer of a SD like it was paper and make short work of one of these ships.

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January 13th, 2005, 03:08 PM

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LOL is this a real question guys?

You realise a Star Destroyer is huge, Enterprise would get the snot beat out of it.
(there are more than 1,400 crew on a SD while there are only 1,400 crew on the enterprise.)

Especially with Admiral Thrawn at the helm, a feet of SD could take out Star Fleet.
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I don't think so, a fleat from Star Fleet would scare off these attacker and win the war.

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January 13th, 2005, 03:13 PM

The Enterprise would obviously win considering it has better technology. Being bigger in size makes you a bigger target.
   
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January 13th, 2005, 03:23 PM

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The Enterprise would obviously win considering it has better technology. Being bigger in size makes you a bigger target.
Better Technology? There was a SD that could destroy stars called, you guessed it "Sun Crusher" Bevel Lemelisk, the guy who invented it and the Death Star (and dark sabre <----Death Star Cannon without the death star) was a genius. The technology is farrrr more advanced in SW than ST.....2 photon torpedos would do nothing to slow one of those beheamoths.


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January 13th, 2005, 03:26 PM

One of the capital ships from Firefly would kick the crap out of both of them.
   
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January 13th, 2005, 04:14 PM

The enterprise has fucking shields people, come on, the SD wouldnt stand a chance
   
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January 13th, 2005, 04:15 PM

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Better Technology? There was a SD that could destroy stars called, you guessed it "Sun Crusher" Bevel Lemelisk, the guy who invented it and the Death Star (and dark sabre <----Death Star Cannon without the death star) was a genius. The technology is farrrr more advanced in SW than ST.....2 photon torpedos would do nothing to slow one of those beheamoths.
The Sun Crusher was not a Star Destroyer, it was it's own ship and it used supernova torpedo's to trigger a massive chain reaction. In theory any SW universe ship (or ST ship if the tech were to be given to them, which it owuld not) could fire supernova torpedoes, the real genious of the sun crusher was the ability to survive inside such fun places as Gas Supergiants and Stars.

It would simply be no contest there are many independantly fired turbolasers on a Star Destroyer, even more on a Super Star Destroyer. As seen in one of the movies (forgot which) a Star Destroyer Turbolaser can vaporize asteroids with a single shot, even assuming that the Turbolasers were at maximum output for such a task (unlikely) that puts the energy output at immense levels, equal to many, many Thermonuclear explosions. Based on this premise a shot or two from a turbolaser would easily have enough output to cause an effect similar to nuclear winter. In an episode of Voyager they came across a (level|class?) 5 photon torpedo device which had erred in it's programming and was destined to a civilized planet, the concern was not planetary destruction but rather continental level damage, which could be taken to be less than, or somewhat equivilant in power to the Star Destroyer Turbolaser. since at the time of construction class 5 was the strongest photon torpedo and during voyager class 6 was considered still somewhat new and class 5 was still considered to be useful in combat.

Given the high rate of fire of an Imperial Star Destoyer Turbolaser it can safely be assumed that the Turbolaser banks on an Imperial Star Destroyer would be capable of a bombardment with energy levels approximating dozens to hundreds of photon torpedoes per minute, or even more.

Based on all of this It is my estimation that the fight would be somewhat like a Yogo vs. a Freight Train.


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January 13th, 2005, 05:03 PM

The Enterprise wins by default. After tricking the Borg into attacking the Star Destroyer the Enterprise tucks tail and runs to fight another day.


Besides the Enterprise is real.

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Talking Bigger Is Not Always Better - January 13th, 2005, 05:18 PM

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LOL is this a real question guys?

You realise a Star Destroyer is huge, Enterprise would get the snot beat out of it.
(there are more than 1,400 crew on a SD while there are only 1,400 crew on the enterprise.)

Especially with Admiral Thrawn at the helm, a fleet of SD could take out Star Fleet.
Well don't forget that the Enterprise A in the first movie took a direct hit from Vyger, and it had been digatizing whole planets into nothingness across the whole galaxy. So I would say that the Enterprise E would be even better still. Hell it could take a Death Star hit with out it's shield being up and the whole crew drunk on Romulan Ale without a scratch.

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