The fundementals of Anon p2p

[freethenet]

P2P has a huge following and therefore a huge budget to follow and sue.

This is a commercial move , relies on lawyers, middlemen,and has an negative exponential effect on efficiency.


That is, the easier you get your files, the easier it is to stop (sue), and more lucrative it is to the (dare I say it) LOST law hammers, and the worse a download speed.

I do not condone artist infringements, but I have no connection with the artist, so will only connect to Media companies selling someone elses produce. This is not good for anyone.

There is no such thing as anonymity, as there will always be a recipient, or a donator.
All that can be done digitally is to increase the initial cost to the interlopers.
This is where anonymous P2P arrives.

Suppose it is a price of freedom. You will pay for it in inefficiency in your P2P system in the future, as you have done in the past. Whether it be napster, morpheus, torrent, donkey,bear/file whatever, *lockbuster.et al.

What is very bemusing is the zeropaid "clan" ,those with a few thousand posts. " giving it large" re. P2P without realising their heirachy is very much numbered. A lot of your external links have fallen foul due to the topic stated above.


Please do not mention phrases such as "Fan boy" or "In the pocket" nor "It does not work" in the alogorithmic zone, or you will appear stupid, and will have no where to go. Which I predict will lead you to the removal of anonymous networks from your forums as a result of apathy.

I do hope you prove me wrong.
:upside

[The Hunter]

What i humbly require is proof. As I am getting a lot of files as we speak. When one speaks of such things as anonymous, I have never seen it proven. When a program is pumped more than the handle on a dry well why wouldnt we be very cautious? We have been hit with many of the we are the next "read super replacement filesharing program", but they have all fallen short. Very much so IMHO. For now my job is to keep any spam, from being overloaded here. Read Spam means any thing overhyped, and with such a small userbase as to not support proper testing.

[The Hunter]

We are not a bunch of tight asses here. Just give us something to run with besides someone posting that so and so said something on another frigging forum. What is there for files? How does the speed compare to the # of users online? Now Im still wondering about the security, as it hasnt been proven, and this friendly bunch here are my main priority, as i want none of their asses busted trying a new program.

[notbob]

i think he intended to say anon p2p is b.s.

and he's right

either it's a troll post to piss off the crazies, or he is (as you imply) getting ready to wow us with his sales pitch

[Watchmen]

Do you feel a proxy makes you anonymous?

[freethenet]

I am pleased you are gettign a lot of files. As zeropaid is a filesharing portal ,I guess you know exactly the media ownership at the uploading end.

It must be a shock to you to now know the /bbs text in the URL is router blocked in governmental public areas as "chat". Is that not censorship? I think so.

Annonymity and Ambiguity should not be merged.
There is no such thing as annonymity, as communictaion requires at least 2.


New modalities do attract positive young sparks, which detract from the real issues particularly in Anon P2P.

New networks will not flourish, using terms as others state "super replacement".
It is a bandwidth compromise no matter which way you look at it. The engine of ants is academic. However can be utilised by file sharers somewhat effectively. Do not use Anonymous P2P if a quick hit is needed. It will not satisfy.

Good luck moderating.

[The Hunter]

it would depend on where it is from, and if the records are able to be made available by a court order.

[Watchmen]

Originally Posted by The Hunter

it would depend on where it is from, and if the records are able to be made available by a court order.

Exactly. It depends on those two things: 1)where its located and 2)what type of proxy..is it a transparent proxy or an anonymising one.

[The Hunter]

Son a quick bit is not what i get. Tonight i downloaded over 2 gig, and as of yet where i live the riaa can kiss my sweaty you know what. PS I aint a young spark, so you can skip over that one also. apparently you are not as wise as you think, or you would know where i live. Also dont try the wise old sage routine, as i have seen it many times before grasshopper.

[Watchmen]

Originally Posted by The Hunter

Son a quick bit is not what i get. Tonight i downloaded over 2 gig, and as of yet where i live the riaa can kiss my sweaty you know what. PS I aint a young spark, so you can skip over that one also. apparently you are not as wise as you think, or you would know where i live. Also dont try the wise old sage routine, as i have seen it many times before grasshopper.

This post left me scratching my arse and wondering what in blazes you meant.

[The Hunter]

It was a reply to freethenet. Just scroll back up.

[Watchmen]

Originally Posted by The Hunter

It was a reply to freethenet. Just scroll back up.

I thought you were flaming me. I figured out after the second post made by him that it was a 'troll post' and even considered stating something to that effect. Usually I ignore such posts and it works great.

[The Hunter]

i know what it is, and Im not flaming you in the least. As to him when replying to someone on as topic such as this you need to know their location, and possibly even some of the law of said country. For now im moving on, as i have other chores to attend to.
Peace

[notbob]

i say ban him

too much rooting around--get to the point already, rather than repeating the obvious

[Watchmen]

Originally Posted by The Hunter

Im not flaming you in the least.

okay. :) I thought it seemed oddly out of place for you...doesn't fit well with your disposition to do something like that. It's all good. :gj