Freenet !

[Yeahright]

Hello everoyne :)

I was just wondering what everoyne's thoughts are on freenet. I looked into there network and it seems pretty cool if you're looking to hide from all of the legal garbage and scariness that is going on right now with file sharing. From what I could tell it is still a way of sharing, but doing so in a way where it is impossible of being cought.
So, what's the deal?

[Lucian]

Its not ready, check again in about a month.

[aqlo]

Lucian's right, Next Generation Routing is supposed to make it usable instead of the slow oddity it is right now. Not to say there aren't some great things there, just not practical for file-sharing purposes yet.

[Yeahright]

Thanks for the advice guys!
I guess I'll just check back in a bit to see what's going on with them in about a month, or so.

[a3ro3]

Something went really awry with NGRouting... The explanation is that's it's a "research project" and not even alpha type software. Excuses aside, it probably has some potential but I don't see it taking off for atleast 6 months.

[tMoD]

As I understand it, Freenet is slow because the way it goes about preserving anonymity results in a lightly connected network with many hops involved to reach a file. Each node only knows about a few neighbors and your neighbors rarely pass any information about their neighbors. Personally, I don't think that anonymity is necessary for a legally safe filesharing program. Freenet is good where anonymity really is required though, such as information sharing among dissidents living under oppressive regimes.

[Lucian]

No 6 months is alittle too long of an estimate, they have a paid programmer working on it 8+ hours a day, the main reason NGrouting isnt working is because of bugs, and due to the fact that multiplexing has not been added. Multiplexing allows a person to send and recieve data at the same time, currently Freenet only does one or the other, and its slow.

I say give it another month, 6 months is a bit ridiculousl.

[Lucian]

"Freenet is good where anonymity really is required though, such as information sharing among dissidents living under oppressive regimes."

Yes its also good if you have political viewpoints which the USA may not agree with, such as if you are a socialist or communist and you dont want to be harassed, it protects our freedom of speech including speech I dont like, such as NAMBLA, It allows people including us who's lives or jobs may be treatened if we speak up, to be able to speak up on things and reveal the truth, a good example of this could be the coverup WMD Iraq stuff, perhaps alot of people do know the truth about that but cant talk about it because they fear being fired.

So yeah there are legit reasons for us to have the ability to communicate in complete annonymous and private fashion, mainly because while we wont get killed for talking here we certainly can lose our jobs for saying too much. You dont think so? Ask Danny Glover, the Dixie Chicks and others.

[Malakai1911]

Originally Posted by Lucian

[...] that multiplexing has not been added. Multiplexing allows a person to send and recieve data at the same time, currently Freenet only does one or the other, and its slow.

I say give it another month, 6 months is a bit ridiculousl.

Multiplexing?

Uh. Are you _sure_ it cant recieve and transmit at the same time. Seems like a hokey explanation.

[eclectica]

Freenet is a p2p internet to replace the www network on regular servers that we're used to having. But using it for trading mp3s, seems to me to be doing it a disservice, because it is slowing down their network. I see its use as mainly for dissidents.

[jimmy90]

Freenet works, but it is slow.

IMO it will always be 'slow'. It has to do a lot to try to preserve anonymity.

But seeing as it is the only anonymous network I think Freenet/Frost are worth a good try.

[Yeahright]

Check this out!! I downloaded the software, loaded it on and gave the program full access to the internet, to recieve and send files. So, in other words, I let it act as a server, and also let it access the net. I wanted to try it out anyway. So, I went to their gateway to see if I could get the software to would work at all and it was sending and recieving. I freaked out and shut it down after seeing that it was sending/recieving for about a half hour and it was only 2% complete. That's right, only 2% and I have a BROADBAND CONNECTION! My question is what the hell was I sending over there network? It would send a lot more than I would recieve, like 50-80Xmore. I was watching my zone alarm meter send information, while I was in another application. The meter was even sometimes maxed out. So does anyone know what it could have been doing?

[eclectica]

Originally Posted by Yeahright

So does anyone know what it could have been doing?

Nope. That's what's so cool about the program.

[Yeahright]

That doesn't seem cool to me in any way. I don't get it!

[Yeahright]

What if it was sending personal info, or something?, or maybe it was sending some of my mp3's. Does anyone know?
Either way, if and when freenet works, I'll be first in line! :fire