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goweropolis · **Should I switch from DC to WASTE? -** October 6th, 2003, 10:42 PM

I currently run a private Direct Connect hub using password authentication. Is there a benefit for me to move to WASTE?

I am very happy with DC. I like the mainroom chatting, I like browsing users' shared file lists. The only major feature it lacks is multi-source transfers. Does WASTE support that feature?

Also, DC clients requires a little more work to setup those pesky active connections. Is WASTE more user friendly from that respect?

mr.jip · October 6th, 2003, 10:50 PM

waaste is safer, i think, not sure tho. U can only have 50 peeps to a room tho

DainBramaged · October 6th, 2003, 11:20 PM

What would be your reason for switching? Is there something you are looking for in particular that you feel WASTE can deliver to you better than DC can?

WASTE is invite only, if you configure it correctly.
WASTE is pretty secure, if you configure it correctly.
WASTE can use IP access control lists, if you so desire.
WASTE is hella fast.
WASTE allows you to limit bandwidth, both in and out.
WASTE allows you to limit the # files you DL.
WASTE allows you to limit the # downloads per host.
WASTE allows you to set directories as shared directories, rescanning, et al.
WASTE can search all buddies, or search within one buddie's shared files, if allowed by the user.
WASTE allows you to send files to a user.
WASTE allows you to limit the # of files you send.
WASTE allows you to limit the # of files sent to you, prompting each sent file if you desire.

Umm... I'm sure there's more, but that's a pretty complete list.

eivioolla · October 6th, 2003, 11:51 PM

From what I've understood you have to personally know and trust everyone you let in into your waste "ring" or whatever it's called for it to provide security. I guess it's better than DC if you think your ISP is trying to spy your traffic.

mliesenf · October 7th, 2003, 09:34 PM

haha, my ISP the UF DHnet is trying to spy on me and every one of the other 7000 users, lol. You would use waste if you want to ensure a secure encrypted connection.

rctempire · October 17th, 2003, 07:21 AM

Can anyone point me in the direction of a link for this

A download link please

DainBramaged · October 17th, 2003, 07:31 AM

http://waste.globaldisarray.org/

This is unofficial WASTE 1.3c. Authors note that it is discontinued. As far as I know, there aren't any groups actively developing WASTE any further. It works though.

c4117 · 11:16 AM

varing levels of encrypted transfers and messaging-> security culture so no middle party ex. isp owned by media company wishing to sue you for your sharing freedom

decentralized -> atonomous network that can't be shut down or go down as long as 1 person with a open listen port is running the clientserver

sends -> auto accepts on by default( great for use as a dump while traveling or for friends to send you stuff without you you browseing thru their list for it)
you control who you share with and how fast -> free association

powerful searching -> file extentions, containing folder names, partial file name matching, and a filter to boot. so its a bit better than dc search but dc search is good too.

chat -> multiple chat rooms and even hidden ones. as you know with DC since you run a hub you are the one who has deal with all the bandwith of the chat. and as people who are on any DC hub should know the person running the hub can see all you chat plain text, yes even your private messages to other users, also using the hub runners bandwith.

passive to passive transfers -> (only p2p that can do this i know of (maybe BT or freenet can do something similar)) using sleek proxy tech that finds where the unused bandwith is and uses it, higher speeds are achived when one can move to active (open listen port) of course thou able to do dirrect connections with all (given they accept your key ;)

Add your Friends- Each person in a mesh can add others, given they have open port 1337 and routing

50 user limit? -> disproven i've seen meshes @ 130 running fine

simple yet powerful and, safe secure and stable.

in other words its a good choice for people who trust eachother to build a nice darknet. but if nobody trusts you (or vice versa) or you have no friends who value security culture maybe it's not for you. its deff. not for you if you are a powergeek and like to read peoples private messages when you run a hub and force people to share how you want them to.

stealthspy · November 17th, 2003, 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mliesenf

haha, my ISP the UF DHnet is trying to spy on me and every one of the other 7000 users, lol. You would use waste if you want to ensure a secure encrypted connection.

Isn't that Illegal?

notbob · 03:54 PM

It's a government operated isp for public housing (at a public university in florida?)

they can do whatever they want since the people don't pay for it(technically)--it's tuition and/or taxpayer funded

who is stopping you from getting your own apartment and dsl/cable? your school and the taxpayers shouldn't have to pay for your downloading

pyrophoric4 · November 17th, 2003, 10:52 PM

I cant get Waste to connect. Both computers have routers. Do I need to enable the port that Waste uses?

Omyn · November 17th, 2003, 10:58 PM

Yes, it would only make sense to do so pyro.

How do you expect data to go through?

YaRi · November 17th, 2003, 11:10 PM

There is a DC++ client which support multi-source-downloading: http://sourceforge.net/projects/reverseconnect/
and the latest official DC++ has compressed transfers enabled: http://dcplusplus.sourceforge.net/in...?page=download

isamoor · November 18th, 2003, 05:36 AM

Compressed traffic ain't what it's cracked up to be since most mp3s and avis are already compressed to the hilt.

BTW: Are you the Yuri that worked on that old gnutella client by any chance?

Later,

Isamoor

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