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old school rap - July 15th, 2003, 08:07 AM

i got a question for all of ya 80's people, did you like the rap music they had back then? i personally think it is better than the rap thats out today, im kind of into the old school stuff, like beastie boys, grand master flash, mc hammer (gotta love the pants lol), mantronix, and all the other old school artists.

if you did like the old school rap, which artists were your favorite?


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July 15th, 2003, 08:20 AM

check out schooly d , krs one , BDP(boogie down productions) , eric b and rakim , main source , school of hard nox


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July 15th, 2003, 08:25 AM

Yes, back then rap was about having fun. it wasn't violent, it wasn't about "bitches, and ho's", murder, fucking, wanting to tap "dat ass" It wasn't brainless idiocy that it has become now.

It was creative, they mixed styles of music, it had a melody (well, more so then it does today anyway)

Modern rap is terrible.


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July 15th, 2003, 08:37 AM

Yeah I agree. Old School is the way to go these days.

Check out Kool G and DJ Polo. Road to the Riches is a classic.
   
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July 15th, 2003, 08:40 AM

I like old school rap and I must say it all depends on the artist.
but i liked mc lyte *nicki d*
roxanne
bdp
kurtis blow
eric b and rakem
hmm such a long time and long list. but basically i like the groups
that were real core. hehe
some music can be hardcore as well * and i i like it i like it* but thats just the way it goes. to each there own.
*cough* if you profile me i have a long list of old school rap artists i like, but your search can take awhile.

and i agree with psi about the rap idealogy
back then rap wasnt about guns violence etc
it was about people having a good time
nice beats
beat boxing etc
well from my experience anyways all i have to say that some of the best old school rappers come from out east. *cough* nyc.
but i am sure there are other states they came from too.

rap to me was about hearing music, beats etc and not hearing about mofo*motherfuckers* getting shot up. worse even yes check a lyrical sentence of a basic 2000 rap thing.
i took my glock and shove it up your ass
next thing you do you going 6 feet under
*and other stuff*
i mean i still listen to rap but it has to be according to how i feel about the song etc. if it has flavor *when i say flavor it has taste it has a good beat, instrumental etc*.

basically i like rap music that u can dance to and has some good lyrics but to be honest some rap i like can be more or less with cursing reality etc.
hands down i like tupac *and * eminem* and others.
yeah i surely contradicted myself by saying that the rap i remember or listen to shouldnt contain lyrics or violence but i go with the flow of the music or the tempo etc.

so sure i am a hypocrit and i admit it but to me if the music brings a good spirit to me, calms me down or makes me mellow then i have no problem with it. and being that this topic is about old school rap i will have to say yeah i loved it.
i even will say special ed is old school
then this nice song i liked was self destruction
*it goes something like this*
your headed for self destruction
self destruction
todays topic is self destruction.

anyway that is how i feel about old school rap.
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July 15th, 2003, 08:49 AM

does anyone here remember how much a rap record (not a cd) cost back in the 80's? i am a big fan of mantronix, he can make some funky beats, and good lyrics with his songs, check out bassline, and fresh is the word. kurtis blow also is a good early rap artist, my favorite song he did has to be the breaks.

i do agree that rap music today has gotten to commercial, and all it is about is bitches, ho's, pimpin, etc like what was said above, it be cool to see a new artist come along and make old school sounding rap music like it was in the 80s.


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July 15th, 2003, 08:54 AM

Borgster, you talk about it like you were in your prime in the 80s.

Maybe there's local people doin' 80s-style rap. That'd be neat to see.


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July 15th, 2003, 08:57 AM

Hip-Hop, not rap, had it's Golden Era 86-87 but I'd like to think all of the late eighties was, and still is the best example of this genre of music. Forget the shit that's in the charts right now, it's all plastic and fake.

Big Daddy Kane and the rest of the Juice Crew (Check out The Symphony), BDP aka KRS-ONE (not sure what the rest did). Eric B & Rakim, Public Enemy, L.L Cool J, Beastie Boys, Ultra Magnetic M.C's (particually Kool Keith), Jungle Brothers, De La Soul, Flavor Unit.

And the early 90's was good too.
   
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July 15th, 2003, 09:03 AM

Jesus, how the hell could I forget Run-DMC?! Better to get the greatest hits album though.

And if you want a wicked track by a DJ from my neck of the woods, try DJ Mink - Hey, Hey, Can you relate. Best UK rap record ever made in my opinion, better than Derek B. And check out Hijack, London Possee, MC Duke and Demon Boyz.

EDIT: I should say there's a whole shit load of mixes of that track (DJ Mink), the original 'Hard Rap' version is the best.

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June 2nd, 2005, 02:23 PM

sure remember self destruction your headed for self destruction
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June 2nd, 2005, 03:52 PM

does Ice T count as old school?


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June 2nd, 2005, 04:05 PM

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does Ice T count as old school?
sure does
hes old school
hes a pretty good actor too imho
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June 2nd, 2005, 06:10 PM

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June 2nd, 2005, 09:10 PM

Kind of a misconception. Older Rap DID include lyrics about guns, drugs, money, hoes. But, at the time it was used in a story telling context, not as the meat and potatoes of an album. Rap and/or Hip-Hop has only went to shit in the mainstream. Most of the music people judge it by is like the Nickelback equivelant of Rap. Cookie cutter shit that is pumped out there because it sells. Check out artists like Zion-I, Immortal Technique, and Aesop Rock for actual talent.


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June 7th, 2005, 09:33 AM

Did you guys forget EPMD...... shame on you!!!!!

BDP
Public Enemy
Kool Moe Dee and his battles with LLCoolJ
Geto Boys first release of Grip it! On that other level...i mock anyone who says Nelly founded the dirty south....what a joke...... Geto boys have been around in some shape or form since at least '88
Early Scarface , his first cd is raw

NWA
Cube who in his younger days was raw and vicious.....shame he cooled off
MC Shan , Marley Marl
kool G rap and dj polo
RUN DMC
Beasties
MC Lyte
Salt N pepa

now a few of these are real early 90's too, but most started in teh '80s

there are many more, these are just a few...

i have all this music too, i think i own about 700 rap disks of some sort....haha
   
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