An essay to ponder on racism

[phalkon30]

I wrote this essay for a class, so I have embelished some things that the teacher will never know (like the fact I'm only a news mod, not a forum mod), but most of those things don't matter to the essay

I realize I will most likely get flamed by somebody for posting this, and I don't want an arguement about it, but there are a few points I would like to make in it, the racist and discriminatory remarks around here recently are astounding, I honestly can't believe some of the things you guys say

So please, just read it, think about it, and possibly change how you post here, or how you respond anywhere, this is real life stuff

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Think before you act.

Until recently, I never realized how much discrimination and casual hatred there is surrounding us on a daily basis. If someone is bombarded enough with this on a daily basis, I believe they tend to accept this as “ok”.

I participate on a computer help website quite a lot ( www.zeropaid.com or ZP); my job there is to moderate comments made by members for hurtful or illegal content. Until I received this assignment, I never realized how much racism is just casually tossed back and forth between members. This is especially true during wartime, when emotions run high, and there is hate towards other races for no reason other than it has been engrained in their minds to hate “those kinds of people”. Several times a day I see nasty comments about “towel heads” and other eastern civilizations. I didn’t take much thought in this until I saw one line posted, and it really made me think, it read “Iraqis have families to”. It could have been a cruel joke, but it had a lot of truth to it. Certain leaders of these countries may have faults, but that is no reason to hate an entire race or ethnical group.

Middle Eastern countries are not the only people commonly discriminated against; I frequently see the word “Jew” tossed around like a McDonald’s salad. At ZP, I constantly see childish remarks. The sad part is, the best comeback most of them have is “dude, you’re a jew, shut up”. In my mind that’s horrible. They are directly connecting religion to how somebody acts. I can’t think of one way there could be a connection, yet this is used loosely without thought, because it is engrained in our minds to accept things we hear often as being “ok”.

Another example of discrimination against Jews is a very popular TV show called “South Park”. Discrimination is used several times a show. It’s not just used to show hatred, but it is made into a joke! In the South Park movie, a “funny song” is named “Jews are gay”; it makes fun of a Jewish boy in the TV show. They make this a very humorous thing to watch a boy being tormented by religious discrimination. South Park is watched by millions on a major TV network, and again, the idea that discrimination is “ok”, is passed along to more and more people.

Discrimination of this type is not limited to Americans, ZP is an international board, so I see people from all around the world. The sad part is, most parts of the world carry the same level of discrimination without thought, and it doesn’t seem to be getting better on its own. This trend does not have to continue though, I’m doing my small part to make this stop, and I’m realizing its not difficult to make a difference. If everybody tries just a little bit harder to make intelligent comments, discrimination can be greatly reduced. This will make a difference in the world, because believe it or not, some people ARE offended by discriminatory comments.

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Again, I did not post this for discussion, I posted it to prove some points, I will listen to some comments though if you must

[codename47]

** claps his hands proudly ** bravo my friend, excellent essay. i agree with you 100% on your opinions, theyre is too much racism in this world. everywhere you go theres discrimination. i know you did not post this for discussion, i just wanted to compliment you on a job well done.

[Plaguewielder]

I thought the writers, or at least one of them, are/is Jewish or of Jewish ancestry. If not, then yeah, I do find some of the things they do to be suprising.

Edit: The writers of South Park, I mean.

[iq214]

If this was in any way inspired by recent allegations against me in another thread, I must say I recent it very much aswell as I recent all the selfrighteous, selfinflated, incredible crap Im witnessing. If not, I can only shrug my shoulders at an essay hardly relevant to this forum or anything going on here, and hardly stating anything but what is kindergarden level humanitarian thought and conduct. Im not out to diss you, but hey..we cant all be impressed.

But since the subject is up, and people are hypothetically daring to be controversial, let me offer this bit of logic, for as you know, logic is usually the most controversial subject when human brains are implicated in any given affair. I was sitting in the Caribbeans, listening to some fat old negroe taxi driver, sitting in his hawaii shirt and shades, driving an enourmous Ford truck-taxi airsprayed with tropical motives all over, complaining about slavery and so on ( I offer you all the benefit of doubt and expect you to have a general idea of the small part of local history the term so unjustly have become to primarily describe). Well heres the unwelcome logic pal..Had it not been for the period of slavery of negroes by caucasians in the carribeans, westindies and both Americas, first of all, the fat cab driver would be either dead or a skinny old dirt poor mummie, sitting in the dust of the town square in Zimbabwe in rags. Nomore mac and cheese for him, so he can thank his ancestors discomfort for allowing his own comfort. Second, and much more importantly, the revolution in society and industry in great parts financed from and made possible through this tragic period, not only created the very society we live in now, it enabled the society we live in. I trust you to understand the implications. And so, I can, without in any way being even remotely rascist or even close to talking about the subject of race, proclaim that slavery through the last four hundred years has been great for our species.

And with this I beg you all, please spare us your misguided political correctness. You are not the moral police of cyberworld, or even this place. Nobody here has the right to play Judge Judy and hand out their own version of the law west of Pecos here and proclaim someone else to be rascist or a childnapper or an illegal file sharer or anything else. Its not even your damned buisness if they are! What the fuck has this place come to?

[codename47]

iq214 i dont think this was aimed at you. but i could be wrong, just dont make racist comments here man. we dont need any " wtf negro?? ", or shit like that.

[Ken17625]

All iq214 does is bitch and moan. I'm tempted to put him on ignore, so I don't have to glance at his posts when reading through a thread.

For someone with an iq of 214, you sure are a dumb fuck.

[Undermind]

Originally posted by Ken17625

For someone with an iq of 214, you sure are a dumb fuck.



LMFAO!!!

[cheapprick]

It's a good essay phalkon, I doubt you were trying to shake the world or replace the stars so IQ's attempt at a slag is sort of wasted. I doubt most people that throw out racist remarks have any idea they are even doing it, owing to enviroment and education.

Too bad ZP's level isn't as bad as it gets.

[Lamourlady]

iq,
we r all who we r today, because of what has happened to us in the past.
but...that doesn't necessarily make any of the past events....right, now does it?
who's to say this cab driver would be an impoverished, starving dead mummy?
that in itself is a stereo-typical view of a people.
and although it is true of many of the people in that area, our cabby could have been the man who led a revolution to change the lives of the people in Zimbabwe...who r we to say?
but because he was snatched from his homeland and used as a slave, his destiny was changed.
see it can go both ways.
and we will never know.
it is true...bad things can lead to good things.
but who's to say that without the bad, those good things couldn't have been even better?

[codename47]

For someone with an iq of 214, you sure are a dumb fuck. [/B]

HAHAHAHA! LMAO!

[Plaguewielder]

Originally posted by iq214
You are not the moral police of cyberworld, or even this place.

Heh, so let me guess. You are?

I don't see why you're so rilled up over a person expressing empathy, kindness, and consideration of other people's feelings. If what phalkon30 said was "kindergarden level humanitarianism" as you say, then it wouldn't be such a stretch to say your views are sociopathic. The blatant anger and resentment in your comments do suggest that you have strong emotional investment in your views. This is also true of racial zealots and hatemongers.

I'm not saying that there are no possible reasons in the world to be racist. One can easily find contemptable generalizations about any race. Still, I find no reason to get angry and throw a fit because someone makes a plea for kindness and compassion as opposed open hatefulness and mean-spiritedness. It only makes your hate more obvious when you combat being called a racist by making racist statements in an attempt to devalue the word "racism" itsself. If you're racist, stop being a coward and admit it.

On the other hand, I do think it's ingenious of racists to try to make racism acceptable by being more openly racist. The things you say seem to come straight from a KKK or neo-Nazi hate speech. Such as, negroes should be glad whites enslaved them, because America is sure better than Africa. All the while, ignoring the war and imperialization employed by Europe against Africa that crippled the region culturally, spiritually, and economically.

[r_xq]

iq214's thoughts were way more intelligent and better thought out than phalkons, yet he gets jumped cos he's not pushing some contrived liberal perspective.

"Again, I did not post this for discussion, I posted it to prove some points"

You didnt prove much. Youre prepared to post a self-righteous, self-serving essay, yet youre not really prepared to enter into a debate.

If youre going to comment on racism there are much better examples to choose than a filesharing site that promotes law breaking and allows posting of near-pornographic imagesof women , and a juvenile cartoon.

Slavery may have benifitted the western world, the US in particular, but that doesnt make it right.

As Mr Mackay would say: "Racism's baaad"

[Lamourlady]

let's remember that phalkon is in high-school, eh?
and i just want to say, that although his words aren't a friggin' literary, work of art, i like seeing a young man, his age, thinking the way he is.
there is hope for mankind after all!

[iq214]

There was no attempt at a slag. I merely stated the obvious. And I laff at these kids level of perception, one might wonder if they learned to read when they learned to write. Some of them cant even be told to look up a word, because they dont recognize boundaries of terms! Its amazing they can even talk coherently when you think about it! LMAO I mean did anyone notice the KKK comment? lmao where the hell did they come into a comment on the hindsight positive effects to society in general of a sad time in societys development? I believe they belong in a discussion of negative effects, if indeed they can in any way be related to the subject at hand...
If I come across a little harsh it is only because I was impatient with this obsessive naivity at the time of writing. Take a reread Cheapprick and you may reconsider..maybe it was inspired by the crap in the other thread, another hasty lil busybody blah blah incident..its just too much of a coincidence. And by the way, I dont see why I should be chasticed for thinking Phalkons prose two gags too Hollywood..LOL and look at lil Ken123 skipping along like a gay lil sheep..hahaha hello! But ofcourse, you are right Lamourlady, I should be and am glad that Phalkon has good thoughts, thats always a nice feat in a young man. Certainly! And indeed, noone is to say what might have sprung from Kunta Kintes loin if he hadnt ended up as a cabdriver in the Virgin Islands, but circumstances all counted, I believe theres a higher chance for long term improval of individual life standards in Africa through the encounter with Europe they have experienced than without it, certainly it hs been for us. This ofcourse taking for granted that we all agree general plumbing is a good idea, but that whole debate upon the cons and pros of the "civilization" of man is ofcourse a completely different discussion, in which I might want to choose a radically different point of view, under the liberty the elevated topic.

[Crazy Horse]

Originally posted by iq214
If this was in any way inspired by recent allegations against me in another thread, I must say I recent it very much aswell as I recent all the selfrighteous, selfinflated, incredible crap Im witnessing. If not, I can only shrug my shoulders at an essay hardly relevant to this forum or anything going on here, and hardly stating anything but what is kindergarden level humanitarian thought and conduct. Im not out to diss you, but hey..we cant all be impressed.

But since the subject is up, and people are hypothetically daring to be controversial, let me offer this bit of logic, for as you know, logic is usually the most controversial subject when human brains are implicated in any given affair. I was sitting in the Caribbeans, listening to some fat old negroe taxi driver, sitting in his hawaii shirt and shades, driving an enourmous Ford truck-taxi airsprayed with tropical motives all over, complaining about slavery and so on ( I offer you all the benefit of doubt and expect you to have a general idea of the small part of local history the term so unjustly have become to primarily describe). Well heres the unwelcome logic pal..Had it not been for the period of slavery of negroes by caucasians in the carribeans, westindies and both Americas, first of all, the fat cab driver would be either dead or a skinny old dirt poor mummie, sitting in the dust of the town square in Zimbabwe in rags. Nomore mac and cheese for him, so he can thank his ancestors discomfort for allowing his own comfort. Second, and much more importantly, the revolution in society and industry in great parts financed from and made possible through this tragic period, not only created the very society we live in now, it enabled the society we live in. I trust you to understand the implications. And so, I can, without in any way being even remotely rascist or even close to talking about the subject of race, proclaim that slavery through the last four hundred years has been great for our species.

And with this I beg you all, please spare us your misguided political correctness. You are not the moral police of cyberworld, or even this place. Nobody here has the right to play Judge Judy and hand out their own version of the law west of Pecos here and proclaim someone else to be rascist or a childnapper or an illegal file sharer or anything else. Its not even your damned buisness if they are! What the fuck has this place come to?

Everyone, including you IQ214 (oxymoron), is entitled to their opinion.....No matter how stupid and petty it makes you sound.

[Sephiroth]

well looks like the circus has left town..

heheh..

About the whole racism thing.. Its not allowed here.. Of course I and the other mods dont know every racist remark there is and we dont read EVERY post because thats just not feasible and really isnt needed. Which either PM a mod or use the Alert button and well take a look at it and ditch it.

Also once again i have to say that this isnt a political board and those who cant be respectful of others wont be put up here. Their "freedom to flame" will be taken away and even if they try to dramatize it and make themself out to be some political maytr i dont really care since ive been telling it seems the same people over and over to tone it down and if they dont get it by now then that is their problem.

They were given enough chanced and opportunities and im not going to let them ruin it for the people who can have a reasonably mature discussion.

[KurtCocain]

Good essay phalkon,

just wanted to make the comment that US poeple are very racist. In Europe, I think, things are a b-i-i-i-t different. But again we dont have that mixture of races and cultures within a country. Even so, I do think that many Europeans have nothing agains diff races

[Sephiroth]

Originally posted by KurtCocain
Good essay phalkon,

just wanted to make the comment that US poeple are very racist. In Europe, I think, things are a b-i-i-i-t different. But again we dont have that mixture of races and cultures within a country. Even so, I do think that many Europeans have nothing agains diff races

Sterotyping all Americans as very racists IMHO is wrong. And IMHO its these generalizations and sterotypes are just as bad.

Dont forget that the US is one of the most diverse nations in the world, unlike most european ones which dont have as many variety of or the number of minories plus dont forget that the US is much much more larger than a european country.

[Crazy Horse]

Originally posted by Lamourlady
let's remember that phalkon is in high-school, eh?
and i just want to say, that although his words aren't a friggin' literary, work of art, i like seeing a young man, his age, thinking the way he is.
there is hope for mankind after all!

Well said LL !!

[Crazy Horse]

Originally posted by Sephiroth
well looks like the circus has left town..

heheh..



That's pretty damn funny !

[Kriegstadt]

Good essay. But for the most part, the humor in South Park is there to prove a point. The people who make the show aren't racist or predjudiced in any way. The show is filled with biting social commentary that people who are PC just don't get.

This post isn't going to make me any friends, but what the hell. As uncouth as he is Iq has a point. No one alive today would exist without the past. If there was no slavery most blacks in the US and some elsewhere wouldn't esit simply because their ancestors wouldn't have met. many whites wouldn't exist because there might not have been a Civil War (though slavery wasn't the only cause of the Civil War), because perhaps one of your ancestors wouldn't have married the person they ended up with.

A bigger point is that Iq has as much of a right to say whatever the hell he wants as you have to bash him. We have freedom of speech for a reason. The Klan and other groups can say what they want just as Jesse Jackson can because they have the right to. Even though people can say they aren't racist they'd feel uneasy if a minority came and ate dinner at their house and that's the truth. And minorities are just as racist towards whites.

The world needs to move ahead. We just need to say screw it and think about the future not about what happened to someone's ancestors. Not enough people realize this and the world will always be screwed up because of this. The injustice of the past is just that, the past. All the people that were wronged and those that wronged them are long dead.

We've got worse things to worry about than someone enslaving your ancestors or almost wiping out someone else's. If people would only realize that all this crap doesn't really matter we'd be better off. Everyone in the world is the same. We're all going to die. If we could look past skin and religion and sexual orientation we'd all be better off.

I can't get why people are so offended by this dude. I'm a minority and I live in the south and I could care less what the hell some jackass 12 year old from bumfuck USA says.

[reg]

... there is only one race ... the human race ... within this human race are the good, & unfortunately, the bad & the ugly ...

ps...most importantly, Phalk, i also wanted to say thank you for your essay ... it's obvious that you put alot of thought into it ... :gj

[Crazy Horse]

Quote : "A bigger point is that Iq has as much of a right to say whatever the hell he wants as you have to bash him. We have freedom of speech for a reason. "

You are correct to a point.

He doesn't have the right, however, to troll and insult members on this forum (or many other's for that matter).


You can state or debate your opinions without trolling.

If you woke up on the wrong side of the bed or didn't get laid or whatever - don't bring it here and take it out on others.

[Krell]

I recall another young person who wrote a report \ letter to send to their congressman regarding P2P filesharing.

He was mowed down by these know-it-all anger mongers. So after the insults, and bashing, he was all the better for it?

I watched this thread from the time that it was posted. I said to myself, here goes . . the insults and the bashing. I knew ahead of time who would be the culprits.

This is yet another example of how someone with some internal fortutude, some motivation, some vision, and a big world view, tries to express their opinion and gets mowed down by the resident angry mob.

My post here this late serves two purposes.

First, to say BRAVO to phalkon, as I did the other young person for having the courage to post on this angry site.

Secondly, we have lost too many good members due to a few vile people who ruin anything and everything that isnt spawned by their angry foul mouths.

The moderators and administration intend to move Zero Paid in a more positive dirrection, and in the future the persons who consistantly flame, and make derogatory statements, will not be tolerated. The rules will be refined and clearly state that any racial remarks or antisemetisms will have consequences.


Kriegstadt - let me reiterate that this is a private site, that the rules here supercede those in any other context, and when people violate those rules by flaming, making racial slurs, or trolling and being antagonistic towards other members, the moderators will enforce the rules as at their descretion. This is already currently in effect, and being enforced.



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[chipperrox]

Originally posted by Kriegstadt
Good essay. But for the most part, the humor in South Park is there to prove a point. The people who make the show aren't racist or predjudiced in any way. The show is filled with biting social commentary that people who are PC just don't get.

This post isn't going to make me any friends, but what the hell. As uncouth as he is Iq has a point. No one alive today would exist without the past. If there was no slavery most blacks in the US and some elsewhere wouldn't esit simply because their ancestors wouldn't have met. many whites wouldn't exist because there might not have been a Civil War (though slavery wasn't the only cause of the Civil War), because perhaps one of your ancestors wouldn't have married the person they ended up with.

The world needs to move ahead. We just need to say screw it and think about the future not about what happened to someone's ancestors. Not enough people realize this and the world will always be screwed up because of this. The injustice of the past is just that, the past. All the people that were wronged and those that wronged them are long dead.

We've got worse things to worry about than someone enslaving your ancestors or almost wiping out someone else's. If people would only realize that all this crap doesn't really matter we'd be better off. Everyone in the world is the same. We're all going to die. If we could look past skin and religion and sexual orientation we'd all be better off.

I can't get why people are so offended by this dude. I'm a minority and I live in the south and I could care less what the hell some jackass 12 year old from bumfuck USA says.

great post, and what everyone doesnt realize is that racism isnt just this new thing, its been around for almost 8000 years. and my personal quote is
'were all gonna die'
we all are after all, gonna die- so are things like racism even worth bothering with? (starting and fighting)

[phalkon30]

First off, iq214, this was in NO WAY dirrected at you, or any other one member on this forum, and I will respect your opinion

Did I write this specificly to change the world? heck no, I did this for a school paper, it had some relevance to this site (because of some examples), so I thought I'd just post it anyway

If or when this thread gets out of hand from flames or whatever, I don't mind if it is removed, like I said, I didn't write this for the site

One last comment I have, I'm only a junior in high school, I don't have the greatest world perspective yet, I may not be as well versed as some of you, and am probably very sheltered/misinformed, but I do know that racism and discrimination in general is a problem, it is used to casually and has lost some of its meaning

[Undermind]

I don't usually find myself agreeing with Krell or Seph too often, but I do agree with their posts in this particular thread, I would just like to say that if anyone wishes to post idiotic comments or know-it-all type comments with no effort to prove or back it up then you will recieve an idiotic reply from me and if you choose to flame me then go ahead, but I will more than likely retaliate, that is my decision and if I get banned for it than so be it, but I won't flame ppl for no F-ing reason, I think everyone that has been around longer or for the same amount of time as me can contest to that

[Kriegstadt]

Originally posted by Krell
Kriegstadt - let me reiterate that this is a private site, that the rules here supercede those in any other context, and when people violate those rules by flaming, making racial slurs, or trolling and being antagonistic towards other members, the moderators will enforce the rules as at their descretion. This is already currently in effect, and being enforced.


And I agree. This place is basically like a private home and the owner (or mod for that matter) has the final word in what goes on. I'm not saying he's right and this is the kind of dude I want to go drink a pint with, but even steaming piles of feces have rights.

People who respond to this type of post need to hold themselves to the same standards they expect him to hold himself to. If he posts something to insult you, you shouldn't sink down to his level to respond to him. I've seen all kinds of crap go on at a whole lot of message boards but you have to remember that it takes two to start a flame war. Honestly, this dude is probably some kooz who listens to the crap his drunk uncle says and runs to type it in his computer.

[Aaron73153]

Raceism is everywhere still, but one must remember that what is racest to one may not be to another, case in pont the confederate flag. I hear things all the time because I am Jewish, yes it hurts, but one needs a very tough skin to make it in this world. When someone says something that could be construed as being racest, they are berraged by the media,. This can be aproblem because it chapens the word racest. If someone makes a reacest statement, you don't have to make it your point to correct them, becuase by making that racest statement they aready made themselves look like an ass.

I think South Park is funny, they offend everybody, plus its a JOKE, it seems this society has lost its sence of humor.

[Rahwgwar]

Nice essay, Phalkon...........

If I had an essay relevant to yours, I would post it, hehe.

The U.S is the most diverse country in the world. Because of this diversity, I believe indigenous people fear foreigners. They don't understand them and therefore are racist towards them. Of course there is more to it than that, but that is my simplified version.

The problem is getting better but we are not at where MLK Jr wanted us to be.

It's difficult to imagine that 40 years ago African Americans were fighting for their civil rights. At this time, we had things like the Little Rock Nine and the Freedom Riders going on. My parents lived through this era and unfortunately many misconceptions still live on. The whites were ultimately the deciding catalyst, by enslaving black people. (racism in America)

In many areas, racism is clearly visible and prevalent. I see it everywhere. To this day, we have prejudice that continues to disturb me.

[Crazy Horse]

I thought this might fit here....

To Kill an American
>
> You probably missed it in the rush of news last week, but there was
> actually a report that someone in Pakistan had published in a newspaper an
> offer of a reward to anyone who killed an American, any American. So an
> Australian dentist wrote the following to let everyone know what an
> American is, so they would know when they found one. (Good on ya,
> mate!!!!)
>
> An American is English, or French, or Italian, Irish, German, Spanish,
> Polish, Russian or Greek. An American may also be Canadian, Mexican,
> African, Indian, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Australian, Iranian, Asian, or
> Arab, or Pakistani, or Afghan. An American may also be a Cherokee, Osage,
> Blackfoot, Navaho, Apache, Seminole or one of the many other tribes known
> as native Americans.
>
> An American is Christian, or he could be Jewish, or Buddhist, or Muslim.
> In fact, there are more Muslims in America than in Afghanistan. The only
> difference is that in America they are free to worship as each of them
> chooses. An American is also free to believe in no religion. For that he
> will answer only to God, not to the government, or to armed thugs claiming
> to speak for the government and for God.
>
> An American is from the most prosperous land in the history of the world.
> The root of that prosperity can be found in the Declaration of
> Independence, which recognizes the God given right of each person... the
> pursuit of happiness.
>
> An American is generous. Americans have helped out just about every other
> nation in the world in their time of need. When Afghanistan was overrun by
> the Soviet army 20 years ago, Americans came with arms and supplies to
> enable the people to win back their country! As of the morning of
> September 11, Americans had given more than any other nation to the poor
> in Afghanistan.
>
> Americans welcome the best, the best products, the best books, the best
> music, the best food, the best athletes. But they also welcome the least.
> The national symbol of America, The Statue of Liberty, welcomes your tired
> and your poor, the wretched refuse of your teeming shores, the homeless,
> tempest tossed. These in fact are the people who built America. Some of
> them were working in the Twin Towers the morning of September 11, 2001
> earning a better life for their families. I've been told that the World
> Trade Center victims were from at least 30 other countries, cultures, and
> first languages, including those that aided and abetted the terrorists.
>
> So you can try to kill an American if you must. Hitler did. So did General
> Tojo, and Stalin, and Mao Tse-Tung, and every bloodthirsty tyrant in the
> history of the world. But, in doing so you would just be killing yourself,
> because Americans are not a particular people from a particular place.
> They are the embodiment of the human spirit of freedom. Everyone who holds
> to that spirit, everywhere, is an American.

[Lamourlady]

now that was cool, Crazy Horse!
;)

[Rahwgwar]

Thanks CH.

That was very moving and inspiring. :fire

[MoonMan]

Excellent essay phalkon. I do not have more to say really, but I thought I would chime in since iq214 and r_xq feel the need to express their unfounded negativity toward it.

[phalkon30]

CH, I think that fits very well, and I'm thinking my relatives would like to read that also, thanks!

[Undying Wizard]

IQ 214 ?

I thought the highist IQ ever recorded was 190? I may be wrong

[Krell]

I have dated two girls that either were in MENSA, or were offfered to be.

They were both fruitcakes extraordinaire. I seriously doubt that anyone with an astronimical IQ has nothing better to do than bash us on a BBS all day. Someone even boasted that they had better things to do with their 135 IQ, and I thought SO Freakin what? Many people here approach if not exceed that, Im sure of it.

Crimany if I can do, the mean here is scary.

[Undermind]

nobody's perfect, I don't see why everyone feels the need to hate on American's, I really believe it all leads down to jealousy somehow, the same thing could be said about many things I guess, even Raceism sometimes

[a604cutie]

Great Essay! :goodjob

Thats a great article CrazyHorse, very nice.

[gorphon]

Originally posted by Krell
I have dated two girls that either were in MENSA, or were offfered to be.

They were both fruitcakes extraordinaire. I seriously doubt that anyone with an astronimical IQ has nothing better to do than bash us on a BBS all day. Someone even boasted that they had better things to do with their 135 IQ, and I thought SO Freakin what? Many people here approach if not exceed that, Im sure of it.

Crimany if I can do, the mean here is scary.


hey!!!! Im in MENSA!

[Undermind]

Originally posted by Krell
I have dated two girls that either were in MENSA, or were scary.



you too?

[Lamourlady]

Originally posted by gorphon
hey!!!! Im in MENSA!

yep.
cause it's the first time i've seen u post.
thought u were dead or gone....lol.
just kept seeing your name up there with the mods.