Cinea

[ManaSmoker]

After listening to Cnet Radio I heard that a company called CINEA had been funded by the government to develop technologies to fight camcorder recordings of movies in theatres. IT was stated that they developed a beam that will be projected with the movie to stop camcorders from taping the movie, THe movie would come out flickerish and almost impossible to watch , they said. They will start installing these in many theatres nation wide soon.


CINEA website said this :

CINEA, SARNOFF COLLABORATE IN DEVELOPING ANTI-PIRACY
TECHNOLOGY TO FIGHT CAMCORDER TAPING OF MOVIES IN DIGITAL CINEMAS


- Sarnoff to Provide Technology for Cinea’s NIST-Sponsored Effort; Advanced Technology Program Project Targets $3 Billion Illegal Industry -

HERNDON, VA (March 04, 2003) - Cinea, Inc. of Herndon, VA, a provider of digital video security products and services for the entertainment industry (www.cinea.com), and Sarnoff Corporation, the Princeton, NJ-based developer of video and electronic innovations (www.sarnoff.com), announced today that Sarnoff has joined Cinea’s two-year, $2M government-sponsored effort to develop technology that will defeat illegal camcorder recording of movies, a major source of pirated copies of films. Cinea recently received the grant from the Advanced Technology Program (ATP) of the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST).

Well this is bad news for many people I am sure in the internet world. BUt what do you guys think? WIll a way to still be able to recored movies be figured out or is movie recording over?


UPDATE:
They Call it CAMJAM

CamJam Optical Copy Protection
Cinea CamJam technology targets pirates attempting to camcorder movie content in the theatre. The technology injects a disruptive signal into the video stream of a movie while it plays in the theater, thereby significantly degrading any video copy of the movie. Cinea recently received a $2M grant from the US government to pursue this technology.

[Krell]

I hail it as the greatest salvation for the P2P world ever !!!

The fact that people cant record a movie with a cam and distribute it as a legit bootleg makes me happy as a little girl. I love pirating, just not CRAP.

[dverma75]

Originally posted by ManaSmoker
After listening to Cnet Radio I heard that a company called CINEA had been funded by the government to develop technologies to fight camcorder recordings of movies in theatres. IT was stated that they developed a beam that will be projected with the movie to stop camcorders from taping the movie, THe movie would come out flickerish and almost impossible to watch , they said. They will start installing these in many theatres nation wide soon.

Amazing?...Same technology was developed in India (a while back) to stop the piracy. but pirates broke it before it came out. All they did was they used a cardboard to stop the relction of the beam from coming to the cam....I hope US government is aware of the results of this technology that cam out of india.

will pot the link if find one..

[Theinfamousone]

Originally posted by Krell
I hail it as the greatest salvation for the P2P world ever !!!

The fact that people cant record a movie with a cam and distribute it as a legit bootleg makes me happy as a little girl. I love pirating, just not CRAP.

Darn straight, I have to agree that cams are the dumbest thing, and it's really sad they are dumping $2,000,000 into this, it'll probably cost the theatres atleast that much to impliment this, and there's no way this is a $3 billion industry. I'd be surprised to see anyone make 50 cents off a cam. Those cams are such junk that you'd have to be the dumest guy in the world to watch them. Atleast wait until the come out in the second hand theatre if you don't think they are worth paying $5.50 for them when they first come out.

Have these people who've been dumping 2 m's into this project ever seen a cam? They are crap. The most good they could ever do is make someone want to buy the real movie.

Do they know that the MPAA had it's best year ever? Probably largely due to P2P movie trading.

No, this is not the end of bootlegs, screeners are becoming more and more numerous, and without all of the cams floating around, they will be amazingly easy to get now.

[FileHoover]

CCD devices (electronic cameras of virtually all makes and brands) see into the infrared.

You can verify this by looking at a television remote control through such a device and noting you can see a bright flashing when the remote is activated.

This "flashy thing" behavior can be used to foil recordings.

Simply make the projectors also emit garbage in the infrared spectrum. The human eye won't see it, but any recordings made with CCD will be useless, because they will contain that garbage.

Whether the infra-red garbage would cause seizures is another question entirely.

[CCSDUDE]

Originally posted by FileHoover
CCD devices (electronic cameras of virtually all makes and brands) see into the infrared.

You can verify this by looking at a television remote control through such a device and noting you can see a bright flashing when the remote is activated.

This "flashy thing" behavior can be used to foil recordings.

Simply make the projectors also emit garbage in the infrared spectrum. The human eye won't see it, but any recordings made with CCD will be useless, because they will contain that garbage.

Whether the infra-red garbage would cause seizures is another question entirely.

It depends on the size/power behind it...and it's a waste of time really..

All the 'good' cams are done from inside the booth...disabling the little bugger attached to the lens mount wouldn't be too hard...

And you can't incorporate anything into the actual film stock that would do such a thing....

DLP would work..but then again they'd just steal hard digial copies...they're damned either way.

Sucks for them...good for us. : )

[Psilaxs]

I agree with krell, except for the few times i have got really great cam jobs.

One of the best cam i ever saw was one of resident evil. It was clear, the sound was good, and looked even better when I hooked it in through my television (That always helps with low quality rips, run them to your tv, lower res means you wont see as many anomolies)

But, yeah, I agree, stopping those shitty 150 meg "DivX" cam jobs is a good thing indeed.

[phalkon30]

Originally posted by Psilaxs
except for the few times i have got really great cam jobs
Sorry, just had to comment, that sounds pretty funny...

I don't even bother with cams anymore, I say let them waste their money on stopping them

They wonder where their money goes....

[Monyak]

Just more legislation and a BIG WAIST OF MONEY. Another example of waisted taxpayer money.

The average kid in the US is afraid to go to school because he might me shot in the head, but wtf, Ol' Uncle Sam has got money to throw out on new technology that is a big fucking waist.

I mean how many fucking people watch a movie that is a webcam/theatre production? Thats not the type of movie the average joe will sit down and watch with popcorn.

To film the movie, transfer into a file with compression from a webcam, etc is a big fucking waist of time.

I mean the P2P industry see's so few webcam theatre movies like this simply because the makers take criminal risk to film it, the transfer to computer takes time to make, room on you HD to waist, and you make no money and besides, within a month of the movie making the theatres the movie is out on DVD and immediately thereafter on P2P.

But again, no big deal, there are no hungry people out on Florence Ave in East LA tonight and their is no national deficit in the quad multi trillians.

[ManaSmoker]

hehe Maybe TMD will finally die. THey have been useless for ages now.