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Ken17625
April 18th, 2003, 01:43 PM
Why was the IRC help thread closed?

http://www.zeropaid.com/bbs/showthread.php?threadid=9583

serrebi101
April 18th, 2003, 01:51 PM
from taking a quick glance, I don't see a reason the thred had to be closed, so I too wonder why?

r_xq
April 18th, 2003, 02:01 PM
Didnt you read the explanation?

Ken17625
April 18th, 2003, 02:05 PM
Didnt you read the explanation?

Yes, I read the last post by Seph, but no threads have been combined or anything. Thats old news. I'm just asking, why was this thread closed?

MoonMan
April 18th, 2003, 02:07 PM
Actually I was wondering about this myself.



Originally posted by r_xq
Didnt you read the explanation?

Do you mean "Moonman when you get a chance could you consdense this and other chat related info into one thread so i can close/sticky it and replace this one with it.

Thanks" ?

I can understand if he wants to condense them, but that particular thread was about help. There are a few other useless IRC threads that can be closed/deleted if the mods want that (I know you don't need my consent, but you have it anyway.. not that it matters), but the help thread should stay open for newbies. That's what I think anyway, but it's not my decision.

Sephiroth
April 18th, 2003, 02:15 PM
Actually i posted that a few weeks ago..

Which that is gone now because until some of the issues are resolved about your channel everything is being put on hold and your channel is being treated as every other unoffical site/chat here for now.

It got closed when it was unstuck which was a accident but its fixed now..

Ken17625
April 18th, 2003, 02:20 PM
Which that is gone now because until some of the issues are resolved about your channel everything is being put on hold and your channel is being treated as every other unoffical site/chat here for now.

What "issues"?

Does this also mean the link to the ZP Chat on the front page is being taken down?

What is the problem with the ZP chat channel?

MoonMan
April 18th, 2003, 02:21 PM
Originally posted by Sephiroth
Actually i posted that a few weeks ago..

Which that is gone now because until some of the issues are resolved about your channel everything is being put on hold and your channel is being treated as every other unoffical site/chat here for now.

It got closed when it was unstuck which was a accident but its fixed now..

Really ? Seems to me that my calling you out on problems has only showed your true colors. You are one person, you are not the chat controller. The whole idea for the room is so WE as the members can take charge and chat, not so YOU can dictate what can and cannot be said.

The fact that you are now targeting all of my IRC threads shows just how little of a man you are. Now let's watch this thread get closed for no reason.

Sephiroth
April 18th, 2003, 02:30 PM
Originally posted by Ken17625
What "issues"?

Does this also mean the link to the ZP Chat on the front page is being taken down?

What is the problem with the ZP chat channel?

About moonmans little thread earlyer which he wants to act that want then fine us forum mods are not forced to help moonman's channel.. There is some things that have to be worked out which as long as he wants to make this a personal thing its going to be worked out anytime soon.

Im here to help this site not people's personal chat channels which share the same name.

And I hope it doesnt come down to having to be taked off the front page, thats not what i what.

Ken17625
April 18th, 2003, 02:32 PM
The closing of this thread seems like the result of a personal dispute.

Although its good to see that the thread has been opened again as it should have been in the first place.

EDIT:


About moonmans little thread earlyer which he wants to act that want then fine us forum mods are not forced to help moonman's channel.. There is some things that have to be worked out which as long as he wants to make this a personal thing its going to be worked out anytime soon.

Im here to help this site not people's personal chat channels which share the same name.

And I hope it doesnt come down to having to be taked off the front page, thats not what i what.

I heard about moonman's rant thread and the "problems" you are having with MoonMan, but why was the thread unstickied and closed over a personal matter?

That thread was designed to help people new to the ZP IRC chat and did no warrant closing.

I'm not invloved in this little "dispute", personally I don't care. I do care, however, when a fucking useful thread designed to help people gets closed over said "dispute".

I don't care if this is a private site where the basic freedoms and privilages i'm used to may not apply. I will not hesitate to tell you that you abused you're mod standing.

Take that for what its worth.

MoonMan
April 18th, 2003, 02:39 PM
Originally posted by Sephiroth
About moonmans little thread earlyer which he wants to act that want then fine us forum mods are not forced to help moonman's channel.. There is some things that have to be worked out which as long as he wants to make this a personal thing its going to be worked out anytime soon.

Im here to help this site not people's personal chat channels which share the same name.

And I hope it doesnt come down to having to be taked off the front page, thats not what i what.

No one asked you to come and help, it is up to you to come. I never force anyone, it's just a place to have fun and that is it. The only reason it is on the front page is because the admins know it is a fun place and it is controlled ENOUGH to keep out warez porn and keep respect for others.

It's not a personal thing (until now anyway) and I have to admit I feel I was a tad harsh in it, but sometimes things have to be said. I felt that if I pmed you about it or made another thread with a subtle gesture to it, that you would not get the idea or twist my words around if you disagreed. It is nothing against you but the fact that you started little wars in the room is what really pissed me off. There was never any conflicts of interest until you decided to make some.

I hope it doesn't get taken off the front page either. I do not see why it would to be honest but I know you can pull your little strings if push comes to shove... but alas, there is no need to continue this.

Once again I will state that I tell noone to come, I simply invite them to stop by. Again Seph you are invited and we can work this out, but understand that besides my aggressive attitude in that thread that I regret, I stand by most of what I said.

Thank you and that is all I have to say on this.

mojo-ris-in
April 18th, 2003, 07:46 PM
:devil OK here we go. 1st of all it is Moonie's chatroom Seph irregardless of whether or not ZP links it to the front page. He did the work and set it up and polices it. Just because more people have op privileges than you would like to see doesn't mean he is exploiting ZP in any way. I'm sure that if anything bad with a user were to go down that Moonie would take care of it. Don't damn someone until a problem occurs because people are gonna think you're jumping on him. I really hope that the powers that be leave the link on the homepage because frankly this is the 1st zeropaid chat to bring in any chatters in my 2 years of visiting this site and that would be bad for everyone involved. I've been to the chat a couple of times and even though I'm not much of a chatter I enjoyed myself and everything seemed to run pretty smoothly without any problems that I could see. I really think everybody should just take a step back and take a deep breath and come up with a solution that would work for everyone. Keep the personal BS out of this because no one wins that way.

DefCoN
April 18th, 2003, 07:57 PM
My opinion is the mods think they own this website!!
We do have freedom of speech laws which dont seem to apply here at all most of the time..I think mods here need to be evaluated by higher powers because being POWERHUNGRY
just makes you look like an ass!! Seems to be when non-mods tell their feelings shit hits the fan and then the powerhungry mods go into action most of the time for no reason.

MusikBeatz23
April 18th, 2003, 08:06 PM
Originally posted by Sephiroth
Which that is gone now because until some of the issues are resolved about your channel everything is being put on hold and your channel is being treated as every other unoffical site/chat here for now.

It got closed when it was unstuck which was a accident but its fixed now.. LMAO... i knew that was gonna happen... after the whinny bitches thread... anyways i thought it was already the official ZP Chat... ??? or is it gonna be unofficial because one of the "forum mods" doesn't like it... ???

The Hunter
April 18th, 2003, 08:22 PM
DefCoN, We do not own the site, but it is a privately owned site, and the rules apply here. Power hungry is one thing I have never have been. When I go into action it is for a reason.

Krell
April 18th, 2003, 08:34 PM
yup, thats what Im talkin about.

DefCoN - when mojo-ris-in states what he thinks, it carries weight, he has been here long enough to know whats what.
You on the other hand have not been here long, or you wouldnt make that assnine freedom of speech statement.

This is also between MoonMan and sephi, neither of whom you have anything to do with.

And for your information, we talk to the "higher powers" every day, so looks like your SOL

DefCoN
April 18th, 2003, 08:49 PM
Like i said NON-MODS let their feelings be known and mods go into action either by deleting posts or showing their powers
by insulting people like myself.Doesnt matter how long a person has been here krell for all u know i could of been here since day one but never registered until last year so dont tell me what i dont know..So lets see More posts = carries more weight
or Length of time here carries more weight?Neither one should matter its all opinions guys.. Take it as that!!

Krell
April 18th, 2003, 09:02 PM
Well you werent, and its really wasnt any of your business, so how bout you shut your hole?

And yes time does matter, I have no tolerence for people who waltz in here for a few weeks and start badmouthing. Even if you registered once upon a time, so what, if you didnt bother to participate until now, then you still have no investment here. No investment, no tenure, no weight, get it?

So take your poor pitiful me song and dance and go read the rules, if you flame, we close. Dont like the rules, move on.

Take it as that!!

DefCoN
April 18th, 2003, 09:09 PM
so how bout you shut your hole?
So take your poor pitiful me song and dance and go read the rules, if you flame, we close. Dont like the rules, move on.

No investment, no tenure, no weight, get it?

Well isnt that nice!! Didnt say one insulting thing to you and this is what i get? I hope one day to be just like you man
you are a CLASSIC!! Way to treat the people well done!!

The Hunter
April 18th, 2003, 09:15 PM
DefCoN, you insulted all the mods, and in so doing appear to be a troll. You are just trolling for a fight, that we will not give you.
Please give it up.

Krell
April 18th, 2003, 09:19 PM
" I hope one day to be just like you "

As if . .


I am perplexed by your cluelessness.

1) My opinion is the mods think they own this website!!

2) because being POWERHUNGRY just makes you look like an ass!!

3) powerhungry mods go into action most of the time for no reason



I'm sure mommie didnt tell you, but when you want to dish it out, your supposed to be able to take it too. Ironically, you're the one who first said "Take it as that!!"

Now before you dish out that large can of "nehnee-nehnee booboo" , you may want to just quite while youre ahead.


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Rickio
April 18th, 2003, 09:46 PM
Hey it looks so bad for anyone to resort to name calling.

I want it known that its not true to group all the mods as being in agreements at all times.

I don't always agree but I am not going to argue about on the forum.

If anyone here is truely serious about anything. Lets discuss it via PM and or e-mail.


Of course expressing yourself is good and I see no reason to not. But once you get uptight, take it privately and we can get to the bottom of any issue.


peace