View Full Version : Labels flood P2P networks with bogus MP3s
shadowhawk
July 1st, 2002, 10:13 AM
http://www.techleadership.org/5010/wrapper.jsp?PID=5010-6&CID=5010-062802
Just a headsup peeps!
PatientSaint
July 1st, 2002, 12:57 PM
It's been in the news. Just delete them soon as u find them. I haven't been unlucky enough to find any yet but if i do so i'l llet people know . Just a slight speed bump for P2P even then not a big one
psychotronic420
July 1st, 2002, 08:48 PM
someone should start a thread to monitor bogus files, or better yet just list any that you come across in this thread.
KRUDZ
July 10th, 2002, 04:30 PM
RED HOT CHILI PEPPERS new album BY THE WAY is one to look out for as far as loops and blank spots - it's been a hassle gettin' good copies (but i got 'em)!
mwalimu
July 12th, 2002, 10:08 AM
What do you all think of the following suggestion?
If you download a bogus copy, and you can afford the disk space, don't delete it, at least not right away. Instead, rename it to add a phrase like "bogus copy - do not download" to the filename. Don't change anything else, at least nothing that may affect the hash code that file sharing services use to match files for multi-source downloading. Then leave it in one of your shared directories. That way, when your copy gets grouped with the others, any users that expand the source list will see the warning in your filename, and download from someone else.
One drawback to this approach - there's nothing to prevent the labels from acquiring good copies and putting bogus labels on those.
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mwalimu
whiff
July 23rd, 2002, 08:37 AM
mwalimu has a good approach (clearly labeling bogus copies so they can be hashed). And while there's nothing technically stopping labels or spoofing/decoying companies from mis-labeling good files, there is something legally stopping them: It would put them on the hook for copyright violations. They'd be doing the one thing they're supposedly trying to stop.
PowerMan57two
July 23rd, 2002, 09:06 AM
When I went to go download 3 songs, all 3 where fake, I tried getting Nickleback - Hero, Britney Spears - Boys Coed Remix, and Creed - One Last Breat, all 3 where fake. Then I went on Blubster, and I found all 3 on there.
semeniuk
July 23rd, 2002, 09:15 AM
The best way I've found to find high quality full albums is to search for a .zip file with the album name. People rip an entire album at high quality then zip it as a package.
Someday, overpeer will catch onto this trick, but for now it's your best bet.
TC75580
July 23rd, 2002, 10:13 AM
I've tried downloading Eminem's newest album, and half the songs were 5 minutes of the chorus. Therefore, everyone who wants the right files, use www.simplemp3s.com for full albums.
PowerMan57two
July 23rd, 2002, 02:20 PM
I just added the whole enitre MP3 album of Eminem onto my computer!.. so anyone who is looking for the eminem cd I sometimes have it on winmx, but mainly the fasttrack, and I leave my computer on at night since i'm only 56k, I Turn it on at 10pm central time, and It turns off automatically at 6am.. so anyone wants that cd you can find me on fasttrack at that time, I also run blubster at night too... my s/n's are PMan572 on fasttrack, and PowerMan572 on Blubster, and PowerMan572 on winmx sometimes
benzschwagel
July 23rd, 2002, 02:57 PM
Whenever I dl a song, I try to find one with the most number of sources, because then most people have the same file and you can be sure more people with that file will sign on later if you happen to run out of the original sources. But I really only use WinMX, so I don't know about other programs. I don't like to get those single source rogue files unless I have to, and I check all my files when they finish. I have gotten one file where the ID3 tag stated a different name than the file name, and I think it was a mistake rather than a spoof because the song is a Japanese song and the person doing it may not have known what they were doing. If it was a spoof, then it didn't work, because it was a good song, and now I have another artist to look up! Hehe. But otherwise, I still have yet to get a bogus file using this method. So cheer up, it's only the beginning of the end, we still have a long way to go before it's over.
:shy
benzschwagel
July 23rd, 2002, 03:04 PM
Whenever I dl a song, I try to find one with the most number of sources, because then most people have the same file and you can be sure more people with that file will sign on later if you happen to run out of the original sources. But I really only use WinMX, so I don't know about other programs. I don't like to get those single source rogue files unless I have to, and I check all my files when they finish. I have gotten one file where the ID3 tag stated a different name than the file name, and I think it was a mistake rather than a spoof because the song is a Japanese song and the person doing it may not have known what they were doing. If it was a spoof, then it didn't work, because it was a good song, and now I have another artist to look up! Hehe. But otherwise, I still have yet to get a bogus file using this method. So cheer up, it's only the beginning of the end, we still have a long way to go before it's over.
:shy
edka
July 25th, 2002, 04:12 PM
Originally posted by semeniuk
The best way I've found to find high quality full albums is to search for a .zip file with the album name. People rip an entire album at high quality then zip it as a package.
Someday, overpeer will catch onto this trick, but for now it's your best bet.
I'd never heard of that before, sounds like a really good idea. Do you get many of those zip files on filesharing programs or is it only the most popular albums and are you more prone to viruses when downloading zip files?
TC75580
July 25th, 2002, 04:38 PM
Crazy Horse, even files with tons of sources can be wrong, as I found out while downloading the Eminem Show.
Powerman, thanks for the info.
Sarevok
July 25th, 2002, 07:21 PM
Blubster seems to be a really good place to go to escape those pesky bogus files :}