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nick088
March 20th, 2003, 08:22 AM
Hey guyz, i encoded the movie to mpeg and did exactly wat the website http://www.doom9.org/index.html?/mpg/timelinesynch.htm
told me to do. But still i am having the same synch problems. At the last part of the movie, at the credits, i could still hear the hero and heroin speaking. :mellow
i am really lost for solutions :shy
I played the original avi file tt i downloaded and noticed the same problem !
hey guyz, pls help me, i really wish to record this movie !
Krell
March 20th, 2003, 09:07 AM
Hi nick088
If the problem pre-exists, then dont try to encode it to mpg, it will just inherit the problem.
Use VirtualDub to resync the movie, it will require that you reencode the audio and takes a lot of experimentation. Basically you have no idea what the file size is untill you are done. Bottem line, keep trying. Dont reencode the audio at 320K . . .
Youre gonna have to do some reading this week.
Wait for CCSDUDE or digitaljunkie, or other media peeps, see what they say.
Theinfamousone
March 20th, 2003, 10:09 AM
Read what this guy says,
http://nickyguides.digital-digest.com/audio-synch.htm
And here's the program he uses
http://www.divx-digest.tv/nicky/avinfo_1.2a.zip
I have used this program for years and it will always work if you are willing to put the effort into it. If you really don't care that much about the movie you have, or you think that you can get a different version that isn't screwed up, it's probably not worth the headache of screwing around with audio delay and frame rates for hours.
You might get lucky and virtualdub can fix it in 2 minutes just by doing direct stream copy.
CCSDUDE
March 20th, 2003, 10:27 AM
1) Open said file in Vdub...
2) Video menu > Framerate
3) Change so Video an Audio Durations Match...
Set the video to direct stream copy as well as the audio....save a copy and play it. If the problem isn't solved then the video/audio is fucked up somewhere down the line...in which case you have to...either..
A) Download a new copy or a different copy of said file...
B) Waste loads of time finding the bad sections and cutting on a keyframe before it...direct stream copying both audio and video then moving ahead and cutting the start on another keyframe after then appending both segments together. This will ultimately annoy the viewer when it skips past 20 some frames or whatever.
C) If the audio is out of sync from start to finish you'll have to play with "Interleaving" in the audio menu....back and forth till you find the sweet spot. A hassle to say the least....
D) Go out and buy the freakin' movie....I've never seen anyone have so much trouble with a simple outta sync video.....your better off paying the 20 for a DVD and kicking back with some popcorn in front of a real TV....
Also, don't blame it on those guides....if they didn't walk you through right tons of people would be bitching about it on their forum as well as any other A/V related ones....and that's just not happening...so the problem lies with how you're doing things.
Tic3
March 20th, 2003, 10:48 AM
...and finally, keep in mind that capturing digital video requires HUGE amounts of system resources.
90% of the problems people experience with digital video are caused by inadequate hardware. The other 10% is lack of experience using the software.
Make sure your hard drive is at LEAST a 7200rpm (personally, I wouldn't even dream of trying to capture a full movie unless I had a 1300 rpm SCSI drive). It can be done with a 7200 rpm drive - lots of people do it. Just not me.
Make sure that your drive has recently been defragged and checked for errors. Make sure that there is LOTS and LOTS of room on your hard drive (at least triple the amount needed for the final product).
Also, make sure you have at least a 500 Mhz Pentium 3 or Athalon processor (Don't even try with a cheap celeron or duron). Not less than 512 mb of ram.
Capture the movie in two or four segments and then splice them together using a video editor.
If you are only going to view this on a hard drive, alter the settings in your capture software. Capture at 20 or 15 frames per second. Use 352 x 240 instead of full screen.
Reading the instructions and help files of software programs helps.
Tic3
nick088
March 21st, 2003, 07:48 PM
K, guyz, i have to admit the instructions from http://nickyguides.digital-digest.com/audio-synch.htm
is fantasic, i did until the part where i had to Multiplex the audio with the video. K, after saving the avi, i checked the movie. And great, its still in the same condition. The audio and video r out of sync. well, then i thought maybe i should convert it to mpeg, maybe the problem would be fixed, then i spent the whole night doing tt. Still the same problem. I am really confused man, i did exactly wat the instruction told me to, stretch the audio and Multiplex with the video back. But, to be honest this program is awesome. I spent hours adjusting the frame rate and got it right, in sync with the audio. But i still dun get it. Why is the the sync problem there even thought have stretched the audio. Hey guyz, i am really very sorry, if i have annoyed u all. I really want to fix this. I am really very gratefull to u guyz ! :fire
Right now, i am doign wat CCSDUDE told me to do, which is :
1) Open said file in Vdub...
2) Video menu > Framerate
3) Change so Video an Audio Durations Match...
Hey CCSDude, sorry, ur method doesen't work :mellow
Krell
March 21st, 2003, 07:58 PM
Hi nick088
Always try to keep this in the original thread so we can follow the history.
I applaud you for having the internal fortitude to try to solve your problem, and not just try to get fast food.
CCSDUDE propose that you do a least effort thing, first, but as you found out, sometimes, an all nighter will still not produce results.
Please PM with the file name, and your EXACT file size.
Either
A: I may already have it fixed, or
B: I can give it a try.
nick088
March 21st, 2003, 08:11 PM
k, 10x alot man
hmm, this is kind of strange, i just searched the file in kazaa lite, and the results show that the exact file is,
aqlo
March 21st, 2003, 08:36 PM
a meg being 1024 k and a k being 1024 bytes and kazaa rounding the way it does
don't mind me I'm just markin time nick, I don't know the answer to your real question, just the one about why 10 bits is slightly more than a decimal comma
nick088
March 21st, 2003, 08:39 PM
hey guyz, i am very sorry, i posted this information here. very sorry ! :mellow
aqlo
March 21st, 2003, 08:42 PM
We have some slick moderators here, if it turns out to be anything valuable in this thread they will leave it or merge it with the other one, just remember for next time (Really you just aren't lazy enough yet, give it time)
The Hunter
March 21st, 2003, 08:51 PM
Done.
Krell
March 21st, 2003, 09:28 PM
If you dont mind, go back and remove the name and file size, that's why I asked you to PM me.
Secondly, those numbers do not make sense, they are not the same.
Your two choices are the 676.8 Mb, or, 686.66Mb.
The most popular file size is 676.8
nick088
March 21st, 2003, 09:41 PM
so, krell wat should i do now. Anyway, i have pm u !
Must i re-download the file again ?
Krell
March 21st, 2003, 10:04 PM
If the one you have is screwed up, then what are you going to do? The fastest thing to do, would be to download it again.
If the file was really screwed up, I suspect someone would have renamed it to "shitty copy"
Another thing, before I delete this post, is for you to bookmark this link, and use it.
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/j.buchanan/winmx/movies.html
memorize this, using calculator
700,500,000 x 1024 ENTER x 1024 ENTER
and
735,000,000 \ 1024 ENTER \ 1024 ENTER
You can convert any file size info with this
Otherwise, I would delete the defunk one, and try again.
nick088
March 21st, 2003, 10:26 PM
Hey, thanks krell, i am going to download the file again. Hey But wat if the file tt i downloaded has tt same sync problem, wat should i do???
Krell
March 21st, 2003, 10:40 PM
Stop downloading it.
nick088
March 22nd, 2003, 01:56 AM
Hey, krell, anyway, i have 4 hrs more to complete downloading the movie. U know theres this program called AviPreview, and i previewed it. And the movie is perfect ! No sync problems at all. But now i am afraid tt, wat if i encode the file to mpeg, the sync problem would come back. So, wat do u think? i remember reading the Nicky's Digital Solutions and he was saying tt, if the fps of the avi file is not 25, then theres gonna be a problem with the encoded mpeg. Tt is, the freaking sync problem. So, Krell, my question is, will there be any sync problems after encoding the movie to mpeg ?
CCSDUDE
March 22nd, 2003, 08:53 AM
Originally posted by nick088
Hey, krell, anyway, i have 4 hrs more to complete downloading the movie. U know theres this program called AviPreview, and i previewed it. And the movie is perfect ! No sync problems at all. But now i am afraid tt, wat if i encode the file to mpeg, the sync problem would come back. So, wat do u think? i remember reading the Nicky's Digital Solutions and he was saying tt, if the fps of the avi file is not 25, then theres gonna be a problem with the encoded mpeg. Tt is, the freaking sync problem. So, Krell, my question is, will there be any sync problems after encoding the movie to mpeg ?
Did you set the frame rate correctly when you converted in Tmpeg? The movie your downloading could have some odd fps or you could have encoded a 23.97fps (film) into 29 or something. Never know...lol so check the frame rate in Tmpeg and use Vdub to check the AVI's frame rate..make sure they match.
Krell
March 22nd, 2003, 12:37 PM
The last time I checked, I didnt look like a 12 year old girl.
Your building in some of your own problems. Leave AVIpreview the hell alone, and keep your movie as a Divx. Trying to reencode it as an Mpg will just reduce the quality, and probably give you new sync probems.
Why cant you just download the avi, and burn it to a CD?
IF You want to go mpg or VCD, then start looking for them to begin with. Btw . . thats not the greatest file size to work with anyway.
Or, start hanging out at movie sites and learn to rip yourself, just dont share any shitty stuff like 99% of these lamers that are burning now. Also, take time to collect and organize your tools, such as Gspot, AVIcodec, VirtualDub, etc.
And last, dont ask me if something will screw up, YOU try it, and see what happens, if all of you try one thing and fail, you still will not have spent as much time as I have trying, failing, and learning.
aqlo
March 22nd, 2003, 01:15 PM
The last time I checked, I didnt look like a 12 year old girl. No you're right Krell, that's that other guy CCSDUDE. The avatars must have just got mixed up somehow
ROFL
nick hope this is working better now, I still don't understand why vdub didn't do it for you.
nick088
March 22nd, 2003, 05:52 PM
Hey guyz, i am sorry. I wanna convert it to mpeg and burn it so i can watch it with my whole family. tts the reason to why i wanna burn it as an mpeg. Anyway, i have completed downloading the movie, and its fps is 23.979. K, guyz, wat should i do now. Open it up in TMPGenc and just encode it?
Krell
March 22nd, 2003, 06:16 PM
You should do what your gut tells you to do next. The worst thing that can happen, is that you wasted your time.
Do a little homework, then try to output the file to VCD, then watch it before you burn it.
Wings_of_Azrael
March 22nd, 2003, 06:25 PM
Haha. The top two threads on the main page right now are "Oh man, I give up" and "I can't take it anymore." :fire
Krell
March 22nd, 2003, 07:02 PM
LMAO! Man that's rich.
What would the Sociologists say about this?
nick088
March 23rd, 2003, 08:22 AM
hey guyz, this totally sux man, i converted the file and theres this synth problem again. This time, the video is faster than the audio. Guyz, wat should i do???