Crap Crap Crap!!!

[cpugeniusmv]

Okay, here's the thing:

I was over at my girlfriends house, i was going into safe mode (XP Home by the way) to fix a different problem, it booted into safe mode fine, BUT, i couldn't see it because it was out of range for the LCD!!! so i turned it off at the power button. then, i tried to boot up again, it shows one of those BLUE SCREENS and then restarts before i can read it.

I told her to never let me touch it again after i fix it...and here's what i think will fix it:

boot up with XP cd into recovery console and use the fixboot command

do you think it'll work!? I HOPE SO...because i'll kill myself if i don't fix it, they just bought the thing a couple weeks ago.

[SUprEMeBeiNg]

good luck............sometimes things just go wild




(like girls :bk )

[cpugeniusmv]

Originally posted by SUprEMeBeiNg
good luck............sometimes things just go wild
thanks, i'm working on it with krell, as well as digging through ms knowledgebase...i'll keep you all posted.

Originally posted by SUprEMeBeiNg
(like girls :bk )
yeah baby!!

[isus]

yes, good luck. i dunno tho, i dont even have an lcd (stop laughing). i want one though. where does the blue screen show up? as win is starting? or once it has finished loading, or what?

[cpugeniusmv]

Originally posted by isus
yes, good luck. i dunno tho, i dont even have an lcd (stop laughing). i want one though. where does the blue screen show up? as win is starting? or once it has finished loading, or what?
yeah, i wish i had an lcd :mellow they're so sexy...

if i recall correctly, the BS pops up after the 'pretty scroll bar'

[Sephiroth]

I have a lcd monitor

nice and its alot easier for my eyes since there is less strain plus barely any glare.

Id try a soft reinstall. sounds like it messed up a driver or a windows file got messed up or something..

[Wings_of_Azrael]

Something similar happened to me a couple months ago with Windows 2000. I tried booting into safe mode, then it just froze for about 5 minutes. So, I restarted and booted normally, and haven't tried safe mode since then. I wasn't trying to fix any problems through safe mode, just run a cleaning program.

Also, I had a problem with Windows ME where it said some shit like "Cannot write %1 from %2" or something.. and wouldn't boot to Windows, or even let me reinstall the OS without completely reformatting. I upgraded to Windows 2000 after that incident. All's well that ends well, I guess.

[phalkon30]

If its new, it most likely came with a restore disk, and you could either restore it to a working spot, or just reformat and reinstall

Personally I'd reformat, but I tend to go a little nuts with fresh starts :)

[cpugeniusmv]

if it were my computer, i wouldn't hesitate to reinstall...however, it's not, and i'm hoping that one of the knowledgebase articles, or the recovery console will yield the desired result.

[tree hugging hippie crap]

Maybe you should just quit kicking it? Just a thought. I'm but a lowly peasant. :mellow

[GâIileo>]

Here, I'll tell you what happened.

When you shut it down forcibly, the registry Hive got corrupted.

What is happening to you now, is that you boot, then before it gets to the windows xp screen, it comes up with an error message on a blue background, and then it's too fast for you to read it and your pc reboots.

Here I'll tell you what your blue screen there says:

It will have one of the following error messages:

-Windows XP could not start because the following file is missing or corrupt: \WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\CONFIG\SYSTEM

-Windows XP could not start because the following file is missing or corrupt: \WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\CONFIG\SOFTWARE

-Stop: c0000218 {Registry File Failure} The registry cannot load the hive (file): \SystemRoot\System32\Config\SOFTWARE or its log or alternate


You can fix it easily if Krell hasn't reformatted your system already.

If it's the SYSTEM HIVE, there is an alternate system hive called SYSTEM.ALT and you can simply rename the current damaged system hive and copy the SYSTEM.ALT to SYSTEM

System.alt is in C:\Windows\System32\Config

If it's the SOFTWARE HIVE, there is a backup in the repair folder. (but it will just have the info on programs from when the pc was installed at the factory, so any new changes since then may be gone.)

The repair folder is C:\Windows\repair

You can either do this manually by booting up with another hard drive with an OS that can see NTFS partitions. Or you can use the ERD disks you made (you did make some, right?) or the recovery console.

See: support.microsoft.com/?kbid=307545

[crazytrain]

HAHAHAHAHA welcome to the world of Microsoft where nothing works right,and the blue screen of death is common.

Solution tell her to buy a MAC.HAHAHAHA

[Sephiroth]

Originally posted by GâIileo>

You can fix it easily if Krell hasn't reformatted your system already.


Considering that your suppose to be banned if i were you i wouldnt be starting crap with anyone... especially krell since you seem to have some stupid grudge or something against him..

[GâIileo>]

Oh, gee. Did you ban me? Sorry I didn't even notice.

[cpugeniusmv]

UPDATE:

I went over there today, tried lots and lots of things...

I even tried to reformat and use the restore disks...BUT THOSE DIDN'T WORK!!!

man, when i break 'em, i break 'em good!

it's on its way to sony.

[GâIileo>]

cpugeniusmv writes:
" i'm working on it with krell"
..."even tried to reformat..."

See. What'd I tell you. lol.

[cpugeniusmv]

Here, I'll tell you what happened.

When you shut it down forcibly, the registry Hive got corrupted.

What is happening to you now, is that you boot, then before it gets to the windows xp screen, it comes up with an error message on a blue background, and then it's too fast for you to read it and your pc reboots.

Here I'll tell you what your blue screen there says:

It will have one of the following error messages:

-Windows XP could not start because the following file is missing or corrupt: \WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\CONFIG\SYSTEM

-Windows XP could not start because the following file is missing or corrupt: \WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\CONFIG\SOFTWARE

-Stop: c0000218 {Registry File Failure} The registry cannot load the hive (file): \SystemRoot\System32\Config\SOFTWARE or its log or alternate


You can fix it easily if Krell hasn't reformatted your system already.

If it's the SYSTEM HIVE, there is an alternate system hive called SYSTEM.ALT and you can simply rename the current damaged system hive and copy the SYSTEM.ALT to SYSTEM

System.alt is in C:\Windows\System32\Config

If it's the SOFTWARE HIVE, there is a backup in the repair folder. (but it will just have the info on programs from when the pc was installed at the factory, so any new changes since then may be gone.)

The repair folder is C:\Windows\repair

You can either do this manually by booting up with another hard drive with an OS that can see NTFS partitions. Or you can use the ERD disks you made (you did make some, right?) or the recovery console.

See: support.microsoft.com/?kbid=307545
i booted into the recovery console, and i couldn't browse the drive...so i couldn't try that.

HAHAHAHAHA welcome to the world of Microsoft where nothing works right,and the blue screen of death is common.

Solution tell her to buy a MAC.HAHAHAHA
Thanks for the welcome, but i've been here for a while.

[nasrules]

Originally posted by Sephiroth
Considering that your suppose to be banned if i were you i wouldnt be starting crap with anyone... especially krell since you seem to have some stupid grudge or something against him..

i dont think he was actually trying to insult krell. or at least i dint perceive it that way so even if he was it dint work.

[Azo-999]

My friend (not Jack) had once the same problem with lcd (800x600 max) and XP home.

I said to him that WAIT, do NOT do anything mad, before I come there.

I took my 17" monitor with me, and a converter for the Din-to-LCD (have a car to handle this part).

I plugged my monitor into his PC and after few BS's finally got to the F8 safe mode and noticed, that it had gone to a resolution of 1024*768, which simply was too much for his LCD.

So, I could handle the thing about the way Galileo told, got a spare SYSTEM and SOFTWARE files to his C:\WINDOWS\system32\config directory (had to administer a little to get rights to replace the files) and after that no more BS's and all went fine.

He losed some settings from newly installed apps, but then I noticed, that he had O&O's BlueCon installed taking silent incremental backups of the System.

So, I went one more time to safe-mode and used restore to get those latests SYSTEM and SOFTWARE files back (their sizes were 10MB and 32MB, quite a large ones, so I also made a registry defragment for him with NSW2k3 and they shrinked a lot.

That was a story, how we should do things correctly, without hurry and not swetting with nerves breakin' down...

(this story will not help you anymore, but maybe next time, who knows. Most important is to try to read carefully the BS text(s) and understand, what's missing / wrong - a coppupt "ntldr"-file can cause a lot of pain, while it can be installed back from NTFS-Dos boot-CD, instead of formatting whole drive and installing XP all over again...)

Peace...

P.S. cpugeniusmv - Computer Genius - hope U understood this, I am quite a technical in my lanquage and can't help it. One thing I know is that Krell will understand this well...

One fine place to get a Great XP Boot CD is :
http://www.thanki.tk/ download section under title :
BootCD 3.2 - it has all these GREAT utilities (saved me a few times) :
http://62.253.162.19/hiren.thanki/downloads/bootcd.html

:sw :sw :sw

[GâIileo>]

Yeah, at least your friend had the backup function activated. Most people don't. And they don't even have ERD's.

ntldr is even easier than the Hives. Cause if you lose a Hive then you gotta go through reinstallation of all the apps, which is a minor pain. But they're all still there, as well as your data too. :-)

Azo-999 writes: "it can be installed back from NTFS-Dos boot-CD, instead of formatting whole drive and installing XP all over again..."

-Yep. ...But, Too late now!

[Azo-999]

Originally posted by GâIileo>
Yeah, at least your friend had the backup function activated. Most people don't. And they don't even have ERD's.
Azo-999 writes: "it can be installed back from NTFS-Dos boot-CD, instead of formatting whole drive and installing XP all over again..." -Yep. ...But, Too late now!

Yes it is, but I really hope that people are reading these forums and a good idea is to have a text file somewhere to copy / paste these valuable pieces of information for future use (maybe burn it to the next MP3-CD in case of loosing local files ;-)

GâIileo>, Let's have a look at my edited message up Yours, there's a great link to the "Hiren's BootCD 3.2" and it's fine contents (at bootable ISO-format). Can be helpful to you too (for future use) ...
[ Just noticed, that the download limits have been broken again, maybe tomorrow or monday up again ;-( ]

Azo

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[cpugeniusmv]

Originally posted by Azo-999
Yes it is, but I really hope that people are reading these forums and a good idea is to have a text file somewhere to copy / paste these valuable pieces of information for future use (maybe burn it to the next MP3-CD in case of loosing local files ;-)

GâIileo>, Let's have a look at my edited message up Yours, there's a great link to the "Hiren's BootCD 3.2" and it's fine contents (at bootable ISO-format). Can be helpful to you too (for future use) ...

Azo

:sw :sw :sw
that cd looks like a good thing to have, i already have many of those tools on floppy's, but it would be good to have them on cd...

however, the "download is disabled" on their webpage...do you happen to have it?

[Azo-999]

Originally posted by cpugeniusmv
that cd looks like a good thing to have, i already have many of those tools on floppy's, but it would be good to have them on cd...
however, the "download is disabled" on their webpage...do you happen to have it?

As I edited my msg upper, I saw the same bad thing - their webside has a bandwith and download limit, so you just have to wait and try later (or mail them about mirrors - they are almost always online at AOL and MSN and ICQ)

Yes, I do have it, downloaded it 4 weeks ago....

Peace !

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[Sephiroth]

Originally posted by GâIileo>
Oh, gee. Did you ban me? Sorry I didn't even notice.

Lets see if you notice now...

[The Hunter]

Doh!

[Ken17625]

Man skorchie, it seems you get banned every other day. Imagine if it gets jacked up to every day. Just think, daily bannings of skorchie.

[Krell]

Originally posted by The Hunter
Doh!

LOL keep it up, you'll piss off his girlfriend too.

[The Hunter]

I cant let her post, as she is a wee bit pissed off as it is.

[Rickio]

I got a little utility you might look up and if you want a copy you can PM me.

from the nfo file of this little utility which is for ntfs systems!!!

-------------------------------------
On operating systems that are based on FAT a problem
with a defective driver, files or anything else is easy to solve!
You boot with a DOS floppy and you have access to nearly
everything. On NTFS things are quite different. If you locked
your account or a driver causes a blue screen you have no
way to access the secured system. CIA Commander is a
perfect utility to access these computers anyway! There is
absolutely no need to install anything on the PC before the
problem occurs. All you need to fix it is one single CIA
Commander floppy. Even recovery console that ships with
Win2k can't solve a lost password or a smart-card protected
system. CIA Commander does it all!

there is also a disc called "SuperERD.2002.Khauyeung" that can be found on edonkey network that is very much like the disc azo recommended.

[cpugeniusmv]

Originally posted by Rickio
I got a little utility you might look up and if you want a copy you can PM me.

from the nfo file of this little utility which is for ntfs systems!!!

-------------------------------------
On operating systems that are based on FAT a problem
with a defective driver, files or anything else is easy to solve!
You boot with a DOS floppy and you have access to nearly
everything. On NTFS things are quite different. If you locked
your account or a driver causes a blue screen you have no
way to access the secured system. CIA Commander is a
perfect utility to access these computers anyway! There is
absolutely no need to install anything on the PC before the
problem occurs. All you need to fix it is one single CIA
Commander floppy. Even recovery console that ships with
Win2k can't solve a lost password or a smart-card protected
system. CIA Commander does it all!

there is also a disc called "SuperERD.2002.Khauyeung" that can be found on edonkey network that is very much like the disc azo recommended.
thanks for the tip! found it.

[Azo-999]

Originally posted by cpugeniusmv
thanks for the tip! found it.

And now U have also the Thanki-boot-cd on your PC - just choose what's best for Your needs...

That contains :
A Fine startup menu for all these :
- PartitionMagic v8.0 for DOS/NTFS
- Drive-Image 2002
- Norton Antivirus 2003 (Boot Mode)
- Norton Ghost 2003 (Boot Mode)
- OnTrack's EasyRecovery Pro (Latest)
- NTFSDOS PRO 4.03
- BootMagic v7.1
- 100+ Dos tools (part of them complains for wrong dos-version, will be fixed in nexr release)
- (or then I fix them...)
- Etc...

P.S Downloaded also the CIA-Commander's newest version - Sounds like a simple utility to use for certain "catastrophs"!

Peace !

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[SuperSaiaya Ranger2]

it says their charging

[cpugeniusmv]

Originally posted by Azo-999
And now U have also the Thanki-boot-cd on your PC - just choose what's best for Your needs...

That contains :
A Fine startup menu for all these :
- PartitionMagic v8.0 for DOS/NTFS
- Drive-Image 2002
- Norton Antivirus 2003 (Boot Mode)
- Norton Ghost 2003 (Boot Mode)
- OnTrack's EasyRecovery Pro (Latest)
- NTFSDOS PRO 4.03
- BootMagic v7.1
- 100+ Dos tools (part of them complains for wrong dos-version, will be fixed in nexr release)
- (or then I fix them...)
- Etc...

P.S Downloaded also the CIA-Commander's newest version - Sounds like a simple utility to use for certain "catastrophs"!

Peace !

:sw :sw :sw
thanks a bunch!