how would kazaa/fast track get shut down?

[acidfire256]

I have a question here.

If Sharman Ltd. were to lose the court battle, how would te government/music industry shut down the kazaa network? would they just beable to shut down the sharman site and company? or would they beable to kill the network? thanks for any insight on this. and also sorry if this has been already posted.

[endersgame21]

It depends on if the network is decentralized or not. If it is, then the network can't be shutdown but I have recently heard that it is. If it does get shutdown, then hopefully PFT will come out and the network will continue to survive.

[tipple]

In the event the network is de-centralized, they would have to go after individual users, as well as go after isp's to get them to turn over their logs, ie the verizon situation. This scenario is obviously much more difficult than simply shutting down a network.

[random nut]

They can't shut it down. The only one who can do any damage to the FT network is the owner of the FT network.

[dr. damn]

The FastTrack network would be very simple to shut down. In order to connect to the network, you must access one of the (four?) FastTrack connection servers. If these are all shut down, no new connections will be possible to the network.

Of course, it would be possible to figure out how such a server worked and make your own, but you would also have to update every copy of KaZaA ever made to reflect the IP of your new server.

[tipple]

Your right dr. damn, de-centralized or not, you still need to connect to the network before you can connect to any peers, so in a sense any "Network" is vulnerable.

[isus]

even the best decentralized netwroks rely on a server somewhere.

there is a supernode server, that sends a list of the latest known supernodes to you. when there are not enough listings in the file, kazaa dl's a new one. shut down that server, and i would say the network would be pretty much completely screwed within a month or 2.

[acidfire256]

Thanks for the info guys.

So to summerize: (to make it clear to me correct me if i am wrong)

1)Even if the network is decentralized then one could shut down one of the four "connection servers" so people could not connect.

2)Have isp's prohibit it. Seems too hard to me cause there are millions of users and they can't get them all. and blocking the port i guess oculd be done. but then we could all change ports, right?

3)endersgame21 said: It depends on if the network is decentralized or not. If it is, then the network can't be shutdown but I have recently heard that it is. If it does get shutdown, then hopefully PFT will come out and the network will continue to survive.

what is the PFT that he/she is talking about? I have never heard of it.

4)wait... er... there is no four.

so again thankyou for the replys, and please correct meif i am wrong

[elperro91]

PFT is Project FastTrack...a group of people who are building a new FastTrack client in their spare time....with the hopes of eventually creating a new FastTrack network for the client to run on. You can check out the development at www.projectfasttrack.com

[random nut]

No.

There are no four supernode servers. Before you connect to a supernode Kazaa reads the supernode IPs from your registry. Each time you connect to a supernode you get a fresh list of up to 200 new supernode IPs. You keep getting updated supernode IPs while Kazaa is running. The only ones who can do any damage to the FT network are the owners of the FT network.

[acidfire256]

ok, so to shut down some court would have to rule agianst the owners of the fast track network, and they would intern shut the place down. ps, who are the owners of it? are they sharman?

[overdo]

some dutch ppl created the FastTrack Protocol. see below.

Homepage (http://www.fasttrack.nu/) - this link is down temporarily.

[Smegma]

Have a look at the tech docs up at Zennstrom's Joltid site. While it purportedly describes the Joltid content distribution environment, many observers (myself included) believe that the architectural description also applies to the FastTrack / Kazaa setup. Click Here for the architecture description (Acrobat required) (http://www.joltid.com/documents/PeerEnabler_Architecture.pdf)

to summarize, a Network Management Server (NMS) manages the creation of SuperNodes. unplug the NMS and the SuperNode population may start to erode. BayTSP allegedly tracked the NMS to a facility in the West Indies; it's possible that the NMS may just be situated beyond the reach of US jurisdiction.

[UKMedia]

Originally posted by overdo
some dutch ppl created the FastTrack Protocol. see below.

Homepage (http://www.fasttrack.nu/) - this link is down temporarily.

The port was actualy coded by a company here in the UK and then the code was brought by fast track or fasttrack are the company...?

I can never remember

[Mel_Smiley]

Releasing the fasttrack code to the public is a good start.

[UKMedia]

Good luck in convincing them to do this!!!!!!!

[Koffee Bean]

I don't get it, just because FastTrackBV owns the FastTrack protocal how are they, and how would they go about destorying the network unless you created a forced upgrade which doesnt let you connect or something like that. From what I gather you have 200 supernodes IP's in your registry so to stop from connectiing wouldn't they have to hack everyones computer, remove the IP's, and thus not let anyone connect anymore?

[Theinfamousone]

Originally posted by UKMedia
The port was actualy coded by a company here in the UK and then the code was brought by fast track or fasttrack are the company...?

I can never remember

I thought it was coded in Estonia. Maybe that's just Kazaa.