Why the courts close p2p?

[NDGAARONDI]

Hi

I know it's a silly question to all of you that come from America. But why do the courts close p2p networks down.

Do they say that any device capable device of copying his illegal. So if so why not ban the VHS recorder? Why not ban guns because the poeple who make them allow people to kill others? And Grokster's argument about photocopiers too...the list goes on...

I'm not from the USA but from England, and it was held in our highest court, that no manufacturer can be held liable for illegal copying if there are legal applications for it also.

Anyone studying American law or know some that can tell me please?

Thanks

[Koffee Bean]

It's NOT illegal to make a personal copy, say you just bought the latest Metallica album, and u wanna make a back-up so u don't scratch the original, thats fine, you should be able to do that because it is your copy. The courts want to shut down P2P because, what you are doing is taking that Metallica CD and letting EVERYONE make copies of it, which breaks the copyright code. Because when you buy that CD you can do w/e you want with it, as long as ur the only one who has access to it, but when you share it on P2P veryone has access to it, which is what the courts dont like, according to them, anyone wanting to hear Metallica should have to buy their CD.

EDIT: The reason why it is not illegal in other contries is because they feel that the manufactorer of the s/w shouldn't be help responsible for what the users are doing. In other words say u got a kid, and he goes and gets in trouble, is it fair that you, just because u gave birth to him, should be help responisble, and go to jail for him? NO!

[NDGAARONDI]

That's what I'm getting at in your edit.

[Monyak]

"One Nation under God"

So that means one copy of a program for ALL!

Isn't that part of the constitution?

P2P ROCKS!

MONYAK

[GoobCow]

Originally posted by Koffee Bean
In other words say u got a kid, and he goes and gets in trouble, is it fair that you, just because u gave birth to him, should be help responisble, and go to jail for him? NO!

Completely responsible? No. For the most part? Yes. This is a dumbass analogy. A program to its users has a completely different relationship than a parent to his children. Where do children learn waht's right and wrong? From their parents. It's the parents responsiblity to make sure their children is doing what is right, and if they aren't to correct that.

[aqlo]

not a program to its users, a program to its manufacturers. The users would be like all the little frogs and lizards and so forth that the children brought home when they were supposed to be fishing instead.

[eclectica]

This is due to separation of Church and State, that p2p networks keep being closed. You see, Jesus taught us to share our stuff in the pursuit of brotherly love. And he even performed a miracle for his followers and created a multitude of food when they were hungry. That miracle was not repeated in World history until the the second coming of the messiah, Shawn Fanning, came along and created Napster. And again we witnessed the miracle where one file became millions of files.


The courts refuse to adhere to the Christian doctrine of sharing, and instead find their guidance in laws, the creation of mankind, rather than the divine guidance of Shawn Fanning.

But I have hope, because the trend in politics is now towards more of a mixture of religion and government. With our presidential choices between Lieberman and Bush, it is apparent that religion is back and a part of our everyday lives and governmental affairs. This should then benefit the p2p revolution.

[Winphuk]

This is no justice in the American Court System. The people who end up getting justice are those with money and influence.
The constitution is just a piece of paper and the judges and lawyers know how to twist it to make it read like a comic book.

Our justice system is so upside down we need to be thankful that we have ACLD, consumer advocate groups, and lobbyist to speak on our behalfs.

[ddandelion]

I kind of like separation of church and state. The lack of separation of church and state didn"t work too well in Afghanistan.