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codename47
February 1st, 2003, 07:13 PM
me and my friend have been argueing about this for some time, im a chevy guy, hes a ford guy, whatre you?
peace
SUprEMeBeiNg
February 1st, 2003, 07:19 PM
ford es supreme.Plain and Simple.Thunderbird,Mustang (04 model), and focus(cheap,compact, and upgradable to the limit).
Ford will shine and im calling it by 2006 they will come back to glory as numero uno:shy
MoonMan
February 1st, 2003, 07:22 PM
im a chevy guy, hes a ford guy, whatre you?
I'm just a plan ol' guy :-P
If I had to choose then I would say a rapter (the dinosaur). Fast, free, and very durable. Just watch out for the claws and the whole eating you alive thing.
codename47
February 1st, 2003, 07:24 PM
corvettes run circles around the mustangs, just watch lemans races, the mustang always comes in last and the corvette always wins. the new mustangs looks nothing like the old sweet ass boss models. and the focus is junk, it had like 2 million recalls when it came out...
hawkburn
February 1st, 2003, 07:25 PM
I think I will have to say Ford, they last the longest and are the most reliable, but Honda are a close second in my book.
PornMaster
February 1st, 2003, 07:26 PM
Ford all the fucking way!!
Ford is what real canadian men drive!!
codename47
February 1st, 2003, 07:29 PM
lol MoonMan you better feed that thing a heck of a meal before takin it for a spin :)
SUprEMeBeiNg
February 1st, 2003, 07:29 PM
at least ford has the balls to recall the other companies just pretend like nothings happening
gorphon
February 1st, 2003, 07:30 PM
I have a '93 ford t-bird super coupe that I added an intake and exhaust to, increased the fuel injector size, had the timing advanced and a budy of mine cnc port the charger so it runs at 15psi. and, it beats the pants off of every stock corvette z06 on the streets and most other non nos street legal machiens as well.
so, even with expensive parts and child engineers, Im a ford owner all the way.
The Hunter
February 1st, 2003, 07:35 PM
Hey gorphon, I kenw there was a reason we got along. Right now I am rebuilding a 81 F100 as a street rod. the 4.2 engine is finally done. It cost $860 just to do the heads. Just a toy to haul a wee bit of beer home. the problem is it isnt very good in the snow.
codename47
February 1st, 2003, 07:38 PM
hey check out this dodge motorcycle concept i found
specs: engine - V-10 8.3 L / performance - Zero To Sixty - 2.5 seconds
SUprEMeBeiNg
February 1st, 2003, 07:45 PM
looks like a engine with metal frame around it....i bet its safe:bk
gorphon
February 1st, 2003, 07:50 PM
Originally posted by The Hunter
Hey gorphon, I kenw there was a reason we got along. Right now I am rebuilding a 81 F100 as a street rod. the 4.2 engine is finally done. It cost $860 just to do the heads. Just a toy to haul a wee bit of beer home. the problem is it isnt very good in the snow.
too much low end torque for use in the snow? Im just guessing as that is the problem I have with my ride... only, I have it in the rain. it spins the tires through 3rd gear in a heavy rain and IF I am foolish enough to let it.
damn...$860 for new heads, that is steep. IMHO thats the one thing chevy has in its favor... for a grand or so you can have a screaming rebuilt chevy motor because the parts are all over the place.
but yeah, I took a look at an '84 f150 xlt awhile back. no rust, engine needed some work but you know how that goes.... I had plans to make it a backcountry mudbuster but ended up scrapping the project until I could actually afford it....
what Id really love to do is get my hands on an original 1952 F1 (w/ the vertical grille) and turn that into a street rod... or, since some of the later 50's models have nicer body style, just use a 55 to 59 F1 with the '52 grille. but man, I'll have to hold off on that one until I am very rich. those things, and restoration and modification, just dont come cheap....I checked at a place here in town. the average restoration of an older model vehicle? $50,000.
truly sickening. but if I had it... man, I would love that ride.
edit: codename47, that has GOT to be meant as a drag bike. with the (apparent) width of both tires and the length of the wheel base I cant even conceive of driving that thing through trafiic. 0 -60 in 2.5 seconds is just about drag bike times too. does it have a centrifugal clutch?
codename47
February 1st, 2003, 07:51 PM
@supremebeing - nor is any other motorcycle really, here is one more pic...
The Hunter
February 1st, 2003, 07:57 PM
My friends thought I was nuts for messing with a small engine, they all said just dump in a 351, but i like a short stroke motor, they just pick up the revs so nice. The body is stock as of yet, and needs very little work. Now I just need to upgrade the stereo next, I have a 160watt kenwood, but i want to get a good mp3 player, and sub next. Can you say second childhood?
codename47
February 1st, 2003, 08:02 PM
it has no information about the gearbox
gorphon
February 1st, 2003, 08:05 PM
a lot of my friends told me the same thing.... Ive got the 3.8ho engine here. but I put the blower on it and the thing just flies.... 4.2L is v-6 right? a 6cylinder that big ought to still give you plenty of torque for towing and acceleration I think. and with a little modification....
but you can do that until you are drowning in debt, especialyl with ford.
and yeah, Ive got the standard male disease. my car has to be as efficient and fast as possible, just like my computer. my sound system has to be the best I can afford and Ive got a garage full of power tools and drawers full of various hand tools, electrical components, car parts, and supplies.
fun stuff! :fire
edit: I figure there is no way its NOT a drag bike, judging by that last photo. if it is though it looks a little bit short....
and hunter: 12 different car audiophiles will give you at least 11 different recommendations but I really like audiobahn for subs as well as mids and highs. I got all my stuff at 25 to 50% off by buying last year's pro models from this local electronics store and have had no complaints with the speakers yet. just dont get the 4 x 5's w/ built in tweeter. they kept blowing out on dire straits "Brothers in Arms". yeah, the 6x9's work much better and still give the crisp highs I was looking for...
The Hunter
February 1st, 2003, 08:08 PM
The tranny, is pretty much a stock C4, other than a shift kit, and a external cooler. If i have problems, it will be changed to a C6. A standard would be nice, but as I have problems with my legs it is kind of ruled out.
Also Gorphon, it is a V8, and was commonly used in some mustangs from the US, and it is the engine that came in the truck. that is another good reason to keep it.
codename47
February 1st, 2003, 08:09 PM
now here is a real car :)
SUprEMeBeiNg
February 1st, 2003, 08:14 PM
hmmmm mazda rx8 good choice but its 0wned by f0rd
Siskabush
February 1st, 2003, 08:16 PM
Fords are trash, and nothing more
Everyone I know who owns a ford has a major problem, or several minor problems with them.
Outta all the american cars out there, i like Chevys.
But overall, im a Honda man.
The Hunter
February 1st, 2003, 08:16 PM
Originally posted by SUprEMeBeiNg
hmmmm mazda rx8 good choice but its 0wned by f0rd
You got that right, and they also own Jaguar.
sector-ten
February 1st, 2003, 08:17 PM
Originally posted by codename47
corvettes run circles around the mustangs, just watch lemans races, the mustang always comes in last and the corvette always wins. the new mustangs looks nothing like the old sweet ass boss models. and the focus is junk, it had like 2 million recalls when it came out...
THIS IS FOR YOU CODENAME
all this mumbo jumbo about the corvette when every one knows that the vette is Chevy top dogg nothing they make is faster then there's ford witch has the cobra, lightning but see these are not fords fastest car's people seem to have forgotten that ford owns more then one company like jaguar ::cough:: xj-220::cough:: when the vette can handle that then bring it and trust me and tell me again how long ago that car was made like what 95 - 96 I could name fords other high end cars and SUV's but I wont cause I think you guys get the point be ready for the Lincoln ls with maclarane engine ut-oh the vet will be in trouble hahahah oh and don't forget about the new cobra's that will have the great 4.6 ford svt engine in it but all the cobra's now will be super-charged so say good by to the 310 hp 4.6 and say hello to the 380 hp cobra check the stats you find out that im right so there's how bad that vette is
Faq.
Ford lightning = 395hp stock Chevy corvette = 345hp stock
^real heavy imagine that in a cobra like the cobra r that exsists right now they only make 250 a year i believe so before you start talking that smack about ford get the facts right oh yeah we have all heard about the imaginary corvette of 2005 that will have close to 500 hp whe n that is out then corvette will beet the cobra r but then again the 2004 or 2005 ford GT-40 will have a v-10 maybe v-12 that will have over 500 hp so it wont really matter will it :).
Thank's, Peace I'm out ;]
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SUprEMeBeiNg
February 1st, 2003, 08:17 PM
nm my vision was off its a chevy
codename47
February 1st, 2003, 08:18 PM
heres another car thats my style, another relative of chevy :D
The Hunter
February 1st, 2003, 08:19 PM
The Ford GT was the first American car to win the 24Hours of LeMans.
codename47
February 1st, 2003, 08:22 PM
yes i know that hunter, i actually like the gt, its sleek. im glad they remade it cause all of the other new ford cars blow in my opinion
2001team
February 1st, 2003, 08:28 PM
I'm going to forfeit all the choices and go with Honda or Toyota, my thoughts are that American cars suck and are worth shit compared to Japanese cars. Japanese cars don't waste fuel like it's going out of style, they cost less and are more efficiant. The only American cars I like are the old ones like the 1964 Chevy Impala SS Convertable on hydraulics! My favorite Japanese car is a Honda Accord EX Stick Shift.
codename47
February 1st, 2003, 08:28 PM
alas, another great relative of chevy...
gorphon
February 1st, 2003, 08:36 PM
I coulda sworn ford had a 4.2L v-6 engine at one point or another..... probably older than the 80's though. and I loaned my book on ford engines to my buddy so I cant even check real easily.
yeah, I had to have my tranny rebuilt awhile back. there are a few good benefits of living in one town your whole life. I went to my friend the tranny specialist and had him rebuild the tranny, put in a shift kit and torque convertor and change the rear engine seal for $1000. that is $800 cheaper then I quoted for just a tranny rebuild at another place.
eventually (again, when I am rich), I will go here and get the stage 1 or stage 2: coy miller (http://www.coymiller.com/) (click on engine programs) and while I am there have the blower crated and shipped to oregon to have it rebuilt by magnum powers. of course, with all that power I will need some type of composite drive shaft and a seriously beefed up tranny.... hence, I will have to be independently wealthy.
and 2001eam: my car is efficient enough, I get over 20mpg in town and 29 -30mpg on the highway.... all of that AND the safety of actualy STEEL around me!
The Hunter
February 1st, 2003, 08:38 PM
The only problem, I have with imports is the cost to fix them, and they do break. A friend has a Hyundai, and $140 for a wheel bearing, and to make a quote WTF? As you can probably guess, a friend of mine runs a garage, i see it all.
Also Gorphon, yes Ford has also made a 4.2 V6.
codename47
February 1st, 2003, 08:40 PM
posting two more chevy relatives then im out for the night...
codename47
February 1st, 2003, 08:45 PM
ok heres the last pic, oh wait i forgot the vette! well scratch that this is the second to last pic
codename47
February 1st, 2003, 08:53 PM
two words, hell yeah!
ok peace
MusikBeatz23
February 1st, 2003, 09:19 PM
I was built FORD tough.... FORD all the way...!!!
endersgame21
February 1st, 2003, 09:36 PM
From the choices i would say dodge. It has the viper and that picture of the motorcyle that codename had has a viper image.
But my favorite automaker is nissan. They have the maxima and the 350Z.
Scyth3
February 1st, 2003, 09:45 PM
Chevy beats the pants off of Ford. My uncle owns a Harley Davidson shop, and own just about every car possible. He also owns a Mustang Cobra (brand new). We took a spin in it, and all I got to say is that is one hell of a slow car. At any rate, have you ever seen a corvette with a lincoln felter turbo charger on it? Well I have, and if you even attempted to race it with a mustang, even a souped up Cobra, it'll beat the shit out of you. It's sad to see people even refer to the new Mustangs as a muscle car, when it's not fast at all. Not to mention it's really heavy. Most of the Chevy cars could easily take out a Ford.
Now, bring Pontiac into this and there's a new competition. Chevy and Pontiac have almost equal performance. Ford, is on the lower end. Every lemans I've went to, I've never seen a Ford win.
That's my 2 cents.
gorphon
February 1st, 2003, 09:56 PM
agreed scyth, the mustang cobra doesnt deserve the name. my supercoupe beats the pants off it as well.
now, the shelby cobra.... THAT is an entirely different story.
codename47
February 1st, 2003, 10:12 PM
Originally posted by Scyth3
Chevy beats the pants off of Ford. My uncle owns a Harley Davidson shop, and own just about every car possible. He also owns a Mustang Cobra (brand new). We took a spin in it, and all I got to say is that is one hell of a slow car. At any rate, have you ever seen a corvette with a lincoln felter turbo charger on it? Well I have, and if you even attempted to race it with a mustang, even a souped up Cobra, it'll beat the shit out of you. It's sad to see people even refer to the new Mustangs as a muscle car, when it's not fast at all. Not to mention it's really heavy. Most of the Chevy cars could easily take out a Ford.
Now, bring Pontiac into this and there's a new competition. Chevy and Pontiac have almost equal performance. Ford, is on the lower end. Every lemans I've went to, I've never seen a Ford win.
That's my 2 cents.
Scyth3 i couldnt have said it better! simple as that, most of the chevy cars could take out a ford, why? cause fords have crappy built engines, except in the boss mustang and the gt, and even those arent nearly as well built as the engines in the camaros and vettes...but you do know that chevy owns pontiac right? thats mainly why theyre equal.
Scyth3
February 1st, 2003, 10:25 PM
It's so true though, lol. Chevy has a better reputation then Ford in the racing world too.
I do like to play with the little 4 cyl cars though. Those imports are fun to mess with. The sad thing is even if you put 30 grand into an important, in the long run the larger american car will win.
So...while on the topic, what cars do you guys own?
I own a Pontiac Fiero (I bet you have no idea what that is). Well, it's a coupe that is the only mid-engine american car ever built (engine's in the back). I have the GT model, so here is the stats so far:
2.8 lieter V6
Super Light Weight Frame
Plastic Body Panels (not metal, not fiberglass, plastic)
The body does not get dings in it, since it's plastic
Only produced from 1984-1988 and in 50 of the races it was in, it won 48 of them.
Handling designed by lotus
Beats: corvettes, ferraris (it's true, got old magazines with stats), porche (beat a new one last week), and some other top model cars
Engine is in the back
Anyway, there's some facts off the top of my head. If you don't know what a fiero looks like, look for one on google. They're pretty neat cars. Anyway, I'm planning on putting in a stroker kit, bigger side scoops (these work, unlike new mustangs), scooped quarter panel glass, and more. It'll be a demon when I'm done :P
What do you guys have?
codename47
February 1st, 2003, 10:33 PM
i dont drive yet, i figure ill get my temps next year and then actually get my OWN car a year after that along with my license. from what youve said about your fiero it sounds pretty tight man, i thought about getting one for my first car but i havent seen any for sale around where i live.
collideous
February 1st, 2003, 10:42 PM
Two-stroke, two-cylinder engine, corrosion-resistant Duroplast body, and neither a Ford, Chevy, nor Dodge - can only be a winner!
gorphon
February 1st, 2003, 11:46 PM
I already told you all about my ride.... and it eats SOME types of porsches too. what kind were you racing? Im guessing it would have to be a boxster.
see, I remember the fiero and, unless you did some serious modification to it, they just sit low and drive slow. sure, they are the only americaan PRODUCTION mid engine car around but are just not really that fast without some modification. the gt though is a bit better.
the mustang is crap without some extensive work. if ford had built more t-bird sc's (they produced just around 40,000 in 7 years) everyone who drives a stang would know it.
Theinfamousone
February 2nd, 2003, 12:22 AM
Originally posted by The Hunter
You got that right, and they also own Jaguar.
You got that right, and they also own Aston Martin, Mercury, Lincoln, and Volvo. It's because dumb Americans have bought their worthless cars through crap and more crap years. Look in the newspaper, any Ford car of the same year is worth less than any import car of the same year. It makes me sick, I was going to get a new Volvo, they make such nice fast cars, but dang, I hate supporting the morons at Ford.
I HATE AMERICAN CAR COMPANIES! IT'S ALL ABOUT IMPORTS! The Corvette is the only car that I think looks halfway decent. Gosh, I like how Pontiac isn't making Trans Ams, and Chevy stopped making Camaro's this year, wow, what is the world coming to?
Does anyone here like SUVs? Ford makes more SUVs than it knows what to do with, wow, there's so many random ones. Chevy has their own SUV tangents too, just their biggest four are Blazer, Jimmy, Tahoe, and Suburban. They are the freakin A same thing!!
I HATE SUVs!!
Theinfamousone
February 2nd, 2003, 12:33 AM
Originally posted by Scyth3
Beats: corvettes, ferraris (it's true, got old magazines with stats), porche (beat a new one last week), and some other top model cars
What are you talking about? K, 2.8 Liter engine? Any 4 cylinder car made in the 80's with a 2.8L engine is not going to beat ANY Ferrari. I know they are small, and the engine is in the back, but honestly, Ferrari has devoted 75 years or something just to high end cars, they aren't going to let some American POS beat them. Come on. Here's a picture of an Old Ferrari, I like it, just a measley V-12 engine turning upwards of 350 HP.
codename47
February 2nd, 2003, 05:55 AM
the chevy family: buick, cadillac, gm, ev1, gmc, gm network-fiat, gm network-fuji/subaru, gm network-isuzu, gm network-suzuki, holden, hummer, oldsmobile, opel, pontiac, saab, saturn, vauxhall.
codename47
February 2nd, 2003, 06:03 AM
i bet this cavalier could take out 75% of all ford cars by itself:black
codename47
February 2nd, 2003, 06:06 AM
bet you wouldve never guessed that this is a camaro
nasrules
February 2nd, 2003, 06:16 AM
there all crap, apart from the corvette an the viper. o an the brand new mustang looks nice 2!
germans make da best cars, apart from sports, where the prize is jointly britain and italy.
maartendc
February 2nd, 2003, 07:22 AM
I simply looooooooooooooooooooove the dodge viper.
And btw the ford focus is U G L Y
Scyth3
February 2nd, 2003, 07:57 AM
Originally posted by Theinfamousone
What are you talking about? K, 2.8 Liter engine? Any 4 cylinder car made in the 80's with a 2.8L engine is not going to beat ANY Ferrari. I know they are small, and the engine is in the back, but honestly, Ferrari has devoted 75 years or something just to high end cars, they aren't going to let some American POS beat them. Come on. Here's a picture of an Old Ferrari, I like it, just a measley V-12 engine turning upwards of 350 HP.
It's not a 4 cyl, it's a 6cyl. Let me get you a stat page.
Here's one page I saw on ferraris vs fiero:
http://members.aol.com/fierodeann/Fiero/FieroVsFerarri.html
Based on the skidpad ratings and everything else , it sure as hell can beat a ferrari. The fiero was actually meant to be one of Pontiacs top of the line, but due to problems during testing, they halted production. If it's a POS btw, then what do you drive?
codename47
February 2nd, 2003, 09:35 AM
uh all i see on that page is specs...
Scyth3
February 2nd, 2003, 09:46 AM
Let me find the site with the actual race times...If only I had bookmarked it.
zprocks
February 2nd, 2003, 10:25 AM
they compared the mustang, viper, and corvette and the corvette had the best rating overall in testing, it handled better and accelerated faster
codename47
February 2nd, 2003, 10:28 AM
right on buddy! corvette forever!
SUprEMeBeiNg
February 2nd, 2003, 11:13 AM
their has to be a ford fan out the we should win this!!!!!!!!!:devil
codename47
February 2nd, 2003, 11:17 AM
ford cant win what it has already lost ;)
Theinfamousone
February 2nd, 2003, 11:45 AM
Originally posted by Scyth3
It's not a 4 cyl, it's a 6cyl. Let me get you a stat page.
Here's one page I saw on ferraris vs fiero:
http://members.aol.com/fierodeann/Fiero/FieroVsFerarri.html
Based on the skidpad ratings and everything else , it sure as hell can beat a ferrari. The fiero was actually meant to be one of Pontiacs top of the line, but due to problems during testing, they halted production. If it's a POS btw, then what do you drive?
The only thing I'll ever drive, Audi Quattro. The best rally racing car ever built until the Evo 6, now they have V8 4.2 Liter engines that can do a quarter mile in 15 seconds off the production line. I've got one, my sisters got one. We looooove them.
You're comparing it to a 74 Dino? Alright, you might be able to beat that. Sorry for the flames man. I was just really tired last night, I didn't mean anything by it :-)
codename47
February 2nd, 2003, 11:51 AM
i like the sports quattro, i had one of those in sega gt 2002 but i sold it to get money for parts...
Theinfamousone
February 2nd, 2003, 11:51 AM
Check out this (http://www.syclone.freeserve.co.uk/rivals.htm)
Maybe this will end some of the squabbeling.
Theinfamousone
February 2nd, 2003, 11:56 AM
My bad, according to that, the new Quattro (S4) can do a 14.3 second quarter mile before being modded. Of course mine isn't quite that fast.
nasrules
February 2nd, 2003, 12:12 PM
that dodge bike is called a tomahawk, is basically a viper engine with some wheels strapped on. technically it should do 400mph.
in case any of you havent seen the new mustang, heres a pic:
codename47
February 2nd, 2003, 12:21 PM
the new mustang looks nothing like the old ones ( as ford claims it does ), to me the car looks like garbage
gorphon
February 2nd, 2003, 12:21 PM
it probably will do close to 400mph... it is not abnormal for drag bikes to hit 300+, but I still think the wheel base is too short to handle that kind of acceleration.
and scyth, you are comparing it to a entry model 1970's era ferrari.... I could probably catch one of those on my mountain bike. (so Im exaggerating, but that is hardlywhat I think of when someone says "FERRARI")
and I could care less about 1/4mile times.... the 160mph barrier is what seperates the men from the boys. sure, you can get a mustang to do 10 second quarter miles but with the gearing they usually put in those beasts.... 9 times out of 10 they will never catch me up pasat 100mph. hell, Ive tapped my breaklights at stangs, corvettes, boxsters and bmw's.... you know, just a friendly way to say, "see ya!"
so right here, theres a ford fan who KNOWS his ride is faster than 99% of the vehicles out there. You're gonna have to spend upwards of 80k on a new ride or tens of thousands in modifications to catch me up. either that or: buy a FORD T-bird SC from 89-95, the 94-95 models are the best, got increased gear ratios on gears 1-3 and a more efficient, eaton designed, supercharger stock from the factory that blows 13psi.
I run circles around cobras and vettes, etc. end of story.
nasrules
February 2nd, 2003, 12:24 PM
Originally posted by codename47
the new mustang looks nothing like the old ones ( as ford claims it does ), to me the car looks like garbage
the new mustang looks a LOT more like the original than the previous model. check out the pic, if anyone wants sum more ill have to scan them as i cant find them online. pm me if u want some.
codename47
February 2nd, 2003, 12:27 PM
" than the previous model "...
nasrules
February 2nd, 2003, 12:34 PM
Originally posted by codename47
" than the previous model "...
sorry this isnt a flame but
WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT SUPPOSED TO MEAN???
i was only born in 88 im not into american cars sorry if i dont no the history of the mustang. i put that rather than saying the previous modelS because i dont no the others.
codename47
February 2nd, 2003, 12:42 PM
what i meant was that this model still doesnt really look like the old models, yes it does look closer to it, but not how ford claims...and i was born in 87 so im sure i dont have very much more knowledge about the car than you do nas.
nasrules
February 2nd, 2003, 01:02 PM
ok sorry codename. have ya seen any other pics of it? i think the front looks realy similar, but more than that it aint really. a lot more than the previous neways lol :)
codename47
February 2nd, 2003, 01:06 PM
yes i have seen many many pics of it, this website is my favorite car site and it has a pretty good photo gallery of the new mustang. here is the link for all you ford people
http://www.conceptcarz.com/folder/vehicle.asp?car_id=6651
Scyth3
February 2nd, 2003, 01:09 PM
haha, this is funny. No, there was a specs page I found that was comparing it to a more recent ferrari, and it beat it. I can't find it (maybe not trying hard enough), but it can. If you spent time to find it, you will. As for an old ferrari, isn't it still a ferrari?!?! it doesn't matter if it was taped together, it still has the name on it.
Anyway, audio's are great for handling as are mercedes, but I don't really care for them.
codename47
February 2nd, 2003, 01:12 PM
mercurys are slow, so they should have decent handling.
codename47
February 2nd, 2003, 01:28 PM
now this is a ford that i actually like...they need to remake the boss, whatre they panzees?
SUprEMeBeiNg
February 2nd, 2003, 07:03 PM
i think the ford rebels should rise up from the chevy shit!!!!!!(picks up sawed of shotgun)
Platinum Theory
February 2nd, 2003, 07:04 PM
Chevrolet......the got the corvette, simple like taht. Personally, like Toyota and Acura.....so many street racing cars......
Sephiroth
February 2nd, 2003, 07:06 PM
Depends on what model.. If its about their sports cars then it has to be the Corvette.
I like Ford's trucks and SUVs though.
Yeah i wouldnt mine seeing the Sheby Mustang make a comeback either.
sector-ten
February 2nd, 2003, 07:47 PM
Originally posted by codename47
i like the sports quattro, i had one of those in sega gt 2002 but i sold it to get money for parts...
Once again this is for you codename47.
I got some stats for you to look at
2000 cobra r
http://www.mustangworld.com/ourpics/News/mwcobraR/stats.htm
2002 corvet z06 c5
http://www.chevrolet.jbroadtests.com/Corvette/2002/index4.php
now that you see that i got one more thing to say
cobra-R = 4.6 liter engine stock
vette = 5.7 liter engine stock
tell me who makes a better engine/car now ;]
sector-ten
February 2nd, 2003, 08:06 PM
Once again i'm back with some more stats thought you might like this one :]
http://media.ford.com/newsroom/release_display.cfm?article_id=11159&id=&art_ids=0&bn=1
read that then keep saying that chevy is better then ford
blah blah ha ha
holla,
Sector
sector-ten
February 2nd, 2003, 08:42 PM
Just another post about how ford is better then chevy.
Why don't you chevy lovers check that out, you can check it out to ford lovers its some good info :]
http://www.edmunds.com/news/autoshows/articles/53156/page005.html
neener neener neener ford has mclaren doing there engines now :P
sector-ten
February 2nd, 2003, 08:49 PM
Forgot a picture hehe
i am officially renaming the corvette to the shmuckvette :]
look at that nasty ford
Scyth3
February 2nd, 2003, 09:36 PM
My brother (a mechanic), just noted that the Mustang Cobra is a poor man's corvette, lol.
sector-ten
February 2nd, 2003, 09:49 PM
Originally posted by Scyth3
My brother (a mechanic), just noted that the Mustang Cobra is a poor man's corvette, lol.
Your brother the machanic must not of heard of the Cobra-R
then you know the car they only make 250 a year its not the cobra but the cobra-r it ranges between 79,000 - 110,000 so um what corvette is that much money oh yeah i know wich one the imaginary one :P
http://www.supercarstats.com/car/exotic-stats/ford_mustang_cobra_r.shtml
sector-ten
February 2nd, 2003, 09:51 PM
Originally posted by sector-ten
Your brother the machanic must not of heard of the Cobra-R
then you know the car they only make 250 a year its not the cobra but the cobra-r it ranges between 79,000 - 110,000 so um what corvette is that much money oh yeah i know wich one the imaginary one :P
http://www.supercarstats.com/car/exotic-stats/ford_mustang_cobra_r.shtml
god damn this
www.supercarstats.com/car/exotic-stats/ford_mustang_cobra_r.shtml Cobra-R (http://www.supercarstats.com/car/exotic-stats/ford_mustang_cobra_r.shtml)
if that don't work then try this
www.supercarstats.com/car/exotic-stats/ford_mustang_cobra_r.shtml
sector-ten
February 2nd, 2003, 09:54 PM
getting iritated
try this
Cobra-R (http://www.supercarstats.com/car/exotic-stats/ford_mustang_cobra_r.shtml)
Scyth3
February 2nd, 2003, 10:00 PM
Try a lincoln felter corvette...used it's around 120,000 - 140,000 bucks. There's only so many of those made too :)
That mustangs top speed is only 170 mph...that's slow as crap compared to a LF Corvette. Not to mention it looks like the front of that mustang hit an import and mutated into some crazy ugly thing
I'm telling you, none of the new mustangs that are street legal could touch the lincoln felter corvette.
sector-ten
February 2nd, 2003, 10:03 PM
check these stats out
GT-40 (http://www.fordvehicles.com/autoshow/legends/fordgt/)
sector-ten
February 2nd, 2003, 10:05 PM
NEVER KNEW THAT CAR EXSISTED TILL NOW THANKS FOR THE INFO BUT STILL THE CORVETTE WILL NEVER COMPAIR TO THE GT-40 When was the production years for that car anyway ?
sector-ten
February 2nd, 2003, 10:09 PM
Originally posted by sector-ten
NEVER KNEW THAT CAR EXSISTED TILL NOW THANKS FOR THE INFO BUT STILL THE CORVETTE WILL NEVER COMPAIR TO THE GT-40 When was the production years for that car anyway ?
The crazy ass vette i ment oh yeah and by the way corvette is 5.7
liter and the cobra r is a 4.6 :/ the cobra-r destroy's the z06 in compairison when you look at it they have around the same horse power they shift the same but the only difference is that the vette z06 is 7-speed automatic maybe thats why that crazy vette is faster and more expesive you think?
sector-ten
February 2nd, 2003, 10:19 PM
umm i just researched you corvette and umm we are talking about stock cars man this Lingenfelter vette is after market all they do is make the soup up the vette and i know what you are going to say that svt is a aftermarket shop to but the svt is owned by ford and umm there listed on ford home page and well the Lingenfelter is not on chevy's page. so in all fairness that vette don't count but that vette is nasty 700hp damn fast over 600 of torq damn damn damn :]
PornMaster
February 2nd, 2003, 10:24 PM
Could Chevy make something this (http://www.supercars.net/Pic?s=1&id=681&i=0&p=2001_ford_ex-1.jpg&y=2001&m=Ford&o=EX%20Concept) good? NO!
Could chevy make something this (http://www.supercars.net/Pic?s=1&id=682&i=0&p=2002_ford_f350_tonka-1.jpg&y=2002&m=Ford&o=F-350%20Tonka%20Concept) good? NO!
Could chevy make something this (http://www.supercars.net/Pic?s=1&id=2256&i=0&p=2003_ford_svt_lightning_concept-3.jpg&y=2003&m=Ford&o=Lightning%20SVT%20Concept) good? NO!
Those just show how ford rules!
end of story!
sector-ten
February 2nd, 2003, 10:27 PM
Hehe pornmaster im on your side but uh those are concept cars all except the lightning that will be what it look like and possibly the 350 with minor changes that 350 is so nasty hehe
Theinfamousone
February 3rd, 2003, 03:07 AM
Not many races last much longer than a quarter mile (atleast the ones I've been in) Gorphon, how many horses/torque do you think you run? Hehe, what's your gas mileage now?
Why would you spend so much money on a truck? I don't mean to flame, but why do people mod out their trucks? What's the obsession? What makes me sick is the girls at my school that think they are God's gift to car owners with their freakin' A Nissan POS trucks.
I can tell you why they suck in the snow, they don't have any weight in the back. It seems like I have to push someone's truck out of the snow every time I go skiing cuz they always get stuck in snow!
The Ford Lightning makes me sick, more HP than a Vette? Trucks are made for taking lumber from Jerry's to your backyard for the deck you are building (even then I'd get a $200 utility trailer before I'd buy a truck). Why not get a nice looking sports car and do it?
But yeah, that Dodge V-10 bike, I can't believe they'd dump that much horsepower into a little thing like that. The Suzuki Hyabusa is 160HP, and those are 10 second quarter milers, 400 HP? Can you say dangerous?
The Hunter
February 3rd, 2003, 03:29 AM
The reason for putting money into a truck is simple, it is now better on gas than it was before (25 mpg canadian) it is still able to haul lumber, as well as, haul ass. Also as far as getting stuck in the snow, with the gearing it has, as well as the fact that it doesnt have snow tires, just might have a bit to do with it.
Our main vehicle for winter driving is a van, and it is good in the snow. No weight in the back, just carry a shovel, and put snow in the back for weight. Also I have had sports cars, and now i just happen to need something with a bit more ground clearance for some of my hobbies.
PS, that is put the snow in the back of the truck, not the van.lol
Scyth3
February 3rd, 2003, 04:07 AM
The Lingenfelter Corvette is a customized vette, but there's only so many of them made. I also stand corrected on the price tag, my brother said it's 50,000 bucks. Sure beats paying like 70,000 dollars for a pos mustang. Trust me, that LE mustang would die in a race with one.
vikram_mohan
February 3rd, 2003, 04:53 AM
Lumina SS rules all the fords and chevys with a 5.7 litre engine accompinied with all the luxiries u could ask for :)
vikram_mohan
February 3rd, 2003, 07:56 AM
The new nissan patrol 4x4 with 4.8 litre 4800 cc engine is THE king of the desert ........ nothing can beat that 4x4 with its superb triptonic transmission
Sephiroth
February 3rd, 2003, 07:57 AM
Originally posted by sector-ten
NEVER KNEW THAT CAR EXSISTED TILL NOW THANKS FOR THE INFO BUT STILL THE CORVETTE WILL NEVER COMPAIR TO THE GT-40 When was the production years for that car anyway ?
Thats because the gt-40 was a race car not a sports car.
anarcus
February 3rd, 2003, 08:16 AM
I have nothing to say on the american car issue
All i can say is this is the Best most Beutiful Car ever made
1972 XU1 GTR Torana (all Australian Glory)
CTC Command
February 3rd, 2003, 08:56 PM
Hey Gorphon and Hunter--I really dig your car and truck plans--I would love to get an old F too, except that I'm veering off again...from old Harleys (got two old Ironhead sportsters one good to go as soon as it gets above freezing around here, the other spread all over the bench...anyone got an original rear mag for an '80 sportster they wanna unload?) to old Ford tractors. Yup, classic tractor fever, boys. Presently negotiating for a 1950 8N with a medium sized tree growing between the rearend and the mower...trying to talk the guy down to a realistic $, seeing as it hasn't moved since before the tree got there...and then a friend of mine called me last week, seems he needs to unload his '40 9N before tax time rolls around...
*Sigh* So much iron, so little time...
Originally posted by anarcus
All i can say is this is the Best most Beutiful Car ever made
This is...
The 68 Mercury Cougar. I'm generally a Ford man, but this counts too. I've always wanted one of these since my older sister got one when I was a little kid. The lines of this car are like a Greek statue...Cool looking car, eh? And I bet it smokes a little tire...
Psilaxs
February 3rd, 2003, 08:59 PM
Originally posted by Theinfamousone
But yeah, that Dodge V-10 bike, I can't believe they'd dump that much horsepower into a little thing like that. The Suzuki Hyabusa is 160HP, and those are 10 second quarter milers, 400 HP? Can you say dangerous?
HEHE actually the motor is taken from the new 2003 Dodge Viper (oh yeah! lol) And that has over 505 HP and over 520 FT lbs of Torque :hole
They have stated they are SERIOUSLY considering making it, and given dodges propensity to rush concepts to market, it very well could become a reality.
Reason being, they say is, cars will only interest so many ppl in your engines and products. Motorcycles can draw attention in ways that cars cannot, and showcase the engine more so then a car.
BTW i have heard reports that it's top speed would be estimated between 300-400MPH and with the power to wieght ratio and areodynamics it very well could be possible, (well 300 is VERY feasible, 400 maybe pushing it)
gorphon
February 3rd, 2003, 09:37 PM
it isnt abnormal for a deag bike to do the .25mile in 6-7 seconds.... but those bikes are 8 to 9 feet long typically.... its why I said the idea of riding that dodge concept bike scares me.
theinfaimousone: I make about 270hp @ 4400rpm and +/-360 ft-lbs @2600rpm. talk about wheel spin! that torque at such low rpm is the reason that I cant run 11's in the quarter. when I put it to the floor it just spins tires unti 60 to 70 mph.
Theinfamousone
February 3rd, 2003, 10:34 PM
Gorphon, you need an Audi Quattro (all wheel drive never spins out, it just slings off the line so fast you crap your pants) hehe, sounds like a sweet ride, that is so much torque!
Originally posted by Psilaxs
HEHE actually the motor is taken from the new 2003 Dodge Viper (oh yeah! lol) And that has over 505 HP and over 520 FT lbs of Torque :hole
They have stated they are SERIOUSLY considering making it, and given dodges propensity to rush concepts to market, it very well could become a reality.
Reason being, they say is, cars will only interest so many ppl in your engines and products. Motorcycles can draw attention in ways that cars cannot, and showcase the engine more so then a car.
BTW i have heard reports that it's top speed would be estimated between 300-400MPH and with the power to wieght ratio and areodynamics it very well could be possible, (well 300 is VERY feasible, 400 maybe pushing it)
Ho-ly-Gay, you couldn't pay me to sit on that thing. Yeah, I imagine the top speed is easily 350, I bet it would go 100mph in 1st gear. But, you'd have to get spiked tires or somethin' to get off the line without burning off anything resembling rubber.
Psilaxs
February 4th, 2003, 03:55 AM
Originally posted by Theinfamousone
Gorphon, you need an Audi Quattro (all wheel drive never spins out, it just slings off the line so fast you crap your pants) hehe, sounds like a sweet ride, that is so much torque!
Ho-ly-Gay, you couldn't pay me to sit on that thing. Yeah, I imagine the top speed is easily 350, I bet it would go 100mph in 1st gear. But, you'd have to get spiked tires or somethin' to get off the line without burning off anything resembling rubber.
i agree, simply a 4 wheeled coffin (YES 4 wheels, it is designed with 4 wheels to handle the torque, and improve handling )
Oh, i wouldnt say AWD *never* spins out, but i know what you mean ;)
@Gorphon, DAMN man, you have a serious stump puller you know that? THAT much torque at only 2600 rpms?
You must be making at least 150 ft lbs at 1300 rpms :cross
I hope you dont drive that in inclimate weather LOL
gorphon
February 4th, 2003, 11:33 AM
Originally posted by Psilaxs
I hope you dont drive that in inclimate weather LOL
I do man, and it took some getting used to.... but now, when its raining hard people all over the road hate me.... I let it roll off the line until about 5 mph and then cant go over about 2000rpm until I hit 45mph or so.
other than that though, I love the ride. it still accelerates off the line quickly (in good weather) and has passing power like no other car I can afford. seriously, I go from 70 to 100 (on the highway, now. Im not THAT crazy!) about as quickly as it takes me to change lanes and pass the slow fool in front of me. got a few more plans for it too.... this year I will be trying to upgrade the suspension (all koni, eibach, and moog components) as well as work on the fuel system (increase injector size, racing fuel pump, etc.) I already have the griffin hi cap racing radiator, a hi flow awater pump, some accesorry pulleys meant to reduce the drag coefficient (makes the a/c pulley bigger, the crankshaft and blower pulley smaller) and some digital guages. Now all I need is time (and the tools, mine were stolen last year) and I'll REALLY have troubles!
heh, no.... but by the point I am done with all my plans (a few years at least I figure) I WILL need a truck as a daily driver. There is no way that I will drive my car every day at that point. and btw, I actually get BETTER gas muileage now than I did before- albeit, this is when I drive "regularly".
hmmm.... a truck.... I wonder how much used ford lightnings will run for?? I think that would be sweet, a supercharged race car and a supercharged truck to pull it!
and best of all, no bowties!
CTCcommand: I just have one experience with old ford tractors. On my grandmothers family farm they have an old '47(I think) ford tractor.... it hadnt been used in twenty years when I uncovered it in their barn.... a couple sprays of oil, an hour or so of tlc and that bad boy fired right up. some serious staying power in that engine, they just dont make em like that no more. also, that tractor is actually what I learned to drive on, I was 9 or 10 years old and drove a tractor before I ever drove a car.
I thought that was pretty cool too.
CTC Command
February 4th, 2003, 08:39 PM
Originally posted by gorphon
I WILL need a truck as a daily driver. hmmm.... a truck.... I wonder how much used ford lightnings will run for?? I think that would be sweet, a supercharged race car and a supercharged truck to pull it!
Everyone should drive a truck. Daily. Or else ride a bike. Cars, most of them, are useless cages (that's from the perspective of a motorcyclist now). Trucks and motorcycles are far more pragmatic and from the cab of my 2001 F-150 (which I just sold *sniff*) I looked down on the roofs of most everything--and fast cars are ok, but I have rarely had my head snapped back in a car like what you get on any old Harley or Honda zzoom-splat. And where else can you filler-up and go all day for 5 bucks?
CTCcommand: I just have one experience with old ford tractors. On my grandmothers family farm they have an old '47(I think) ford tractor.... it hadnt been used in twenty years when I uncovered it in their barn.... a couple sprays of oil, an hour or so of tlc and that bad boy fired right up. some serious staying power in that engine, they just dont make em like that no more. also, that tractor is actually what I learned to drive on, I was 9 or 10 years old and drove a tractor before I ever drove a car.
I thought that was pretty cool too. [/B]
Then there's hope yet for that old tree-bound yard guard!
Doesn't matter--cars trucks or tractors, Ford is #1!
codename47
February 8th, 2003, 09:50 AM
jeez, sorry i was gone for so long, this is a late late reply...but look who won the poll eh, majority rules! ford blows!
rockr2003
February 18th, 2003, 07:24 PM
chevy rules!!! ( my opinion) i think GM in general, is the best
CTC Command
February 18th, 2003, 11:06 PM
Originally posted by rockr2003
chevy rules!!! ( my opinion) i think GM in general, is the best
And Chevy just celebrated their 100 year anniversary...No wait, that would be Ford. 100 years. And I was looking at some old Chevy tractors...No wait, Chevy never tried to make tractors, because their trannies couldn't pull a duck out of a paper bag.
Statistically speaking though, the poll's in a dead heat between Ford and Chevy. And who's in last place?
Dodge, cuz Dodge sucks even more than Chevy:fire
codename47
February 19th, 2003, 07:56 AM
bs ctc, bs!
isus
February 21st, 2003, 12:39 PM
BMW!!!!!!!!
woo, m3, m5, 745!
Theinfamousone
February 22nd, 2003, 01:31 AM
Hey everybody, I just bought an 88 RX-7
codename47
February 22nd, 2003, 07:00 AM
hahaha, an 88? hahaha, im sorry man i cant help myself...hahaha. i wouldve waited another 3 yrs, cause then you couldve bought like a 93 rx7 for cheap.
Theinfamousone
February 25th, 2003, 02:06 AM
Originally posted by codename47
hahaha, an 88? hahaha, im sorry man i cant help myself...hahaha. i wouldve waited another 3 yrs, cause then you couldve bought like a 93 rx7 for cheap.
Yeah, you laugh. You're just jealous, cuz that is one fast little mofo of a car and it could destroy your truck or whatever you drive. In 3 years I'll buy a 93 probably. But I'm only 18, so for now, it's an 88. She's a beauty though, red and black. Here's the picture of the inside.
hehe, actually this isn't my car, I got this picture from ebay, but this is what it's going to look like pretty soon.
Lamourlady
February 28th, 2003, 11:16 AM
Originally posted by CTC Command
Statistically speaking though, the poll's in a dead heat between Ford and Chevy. And who's in last place?
nah...uh!
CHEVY ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ahem.
i've said what i came here to say.
SUprEMeBeiNg
February 28th, 2003, 12:40 PM
hahahhahaha
FORD RULEZ :cross
YOU N00BAS
nasrules
February 28th, 2003, 01:25 PM
maybe i should ask to change my username to
dodgerules
doesnt quite have the same ring to it tho does it.
i think ill stick with my present one, although dodge does rule.
codename47
February 28th, 2003, 03:47 PM
fuck you SUprEMeBeiNg. the ligenfelter corvette burns every single fucking ford. 0-60 in 1.97 secs! blows all fords out of the water! it is the fastest street legal car! the second is the lamborghini murcelago ( bad spelling on that ). ford cant touch that! :black
Scyth3
February 28th, 2003, 03:52 PM
Told ya, chevy wins. lol
codename47
February 28th, 2003, 04:10 PM
Scyth3 you couldnt be more right.
codename47
February 28th, 2003, 06:04 PM
read this. :shy
Ligenfelter Corvette:
Some folks probably think the Chevrolet Corvette comes right from the dealer with more than enough horsepower. But really, is there ever enough horsepower? Veteran drag racer and engine tuner John Lingenfelter and Lingenfelter Performance Engineering don’t think so, so they offer a 427 cubic inch twin-tur-bocharged version that produces 725 horsepower and 650 pound-feet of torque! By the way, John himself road tests each of these Vettes and can provide engine dyno testing reports to verify the precise performance of your car. The list of alterations to the engine is long – too long for this space – but includes two turbos with air-to-air inter-coolers, custom exhaust manifolds, hand-polished cylinder heads, a special camshaft, Corsa stainless exhaust, billet steel connecting rods, forged aluminum pistons and much more.
also i was wrong about the second fastest street legal car, so here is some more information...
The fastest streetlegal car is a Ligenfelter Vette. 0-60 in 1.96. Then is a Henessey Venom Viper, 0-60 in 2.4
SUprEMeBeiNg
February 28th, 2003, 06:39 PM
cough crap cough:cross
fuck you SUprEMeBeiNg. the ligenfelter corvette burns every single fucking ford. 0-60 in 1.97 secs! blows all fords out of the water! it is the fastest street legal car! the second is the lamborghini murcelago ( bad spelling on that ). ford cant touch that!
whats that bs fanboy shit
it may be fast but looks like a shitty covete (on the other hand if it had classic corvette design maybe id reconsider)
codename47
February 28th, 2003, 06:51 PM
SUprEMeBeiNg....that is not fanboy shit. it is fact! the ligenfelter is THE FASTEST street legal car. no damn ford could touch it. there is nothing wrong with its looks either! it looks better than any focus and mustang will!
Theinfamousone
March 1st, 2003, 11:24 PM
1.96 seconds? Are you sure that is street legal? Cuz the Mclaren F1's 0-60 is 3.2 seconds. And I'm pretty sure that bad boy isn't street legal.
gorphon
March 2nd, 2003, 12:18 AM
without verifiable data Id have to say that is talk straight from the butt. DRAG bikes are hard pressed to do 0 - 60 in 1.96 seconds...they do so and in fact do it more quickly but they are not street legal.
so, unless a valid, professional (no fan boy sites) link is posted Im gonna have to say that there is no such thing as a street legal car that wil do 0-60 faster than an F1 Mclaren.
its a matter pf physics, torque, mass, and all that.
CTC Command
March 2nd, 2003, 09:31 PM
Originally posted by gorphon
without verifiable data Id have to say that is talk straight from the butt. DRAG bikes are hard pressed to do 0 - 60 in 1.96 seconds...they do so and in fact do it more quickly but they are not street legal.
so, unless a valid, professional (no fan boy sites) link is posted Im gonna have to say that there is no such thing as a street legal car that wil do 0-60 faster than an F1 Mclaren.
its a matter pf physics, torque, mass, and all that.
You're absolutely right Gorphon--a few times my friend Brendan Morgan, who professionally races vintage bikes, has brought his machines over to this semi-abandoned road near my house that used to go to a now defunct United Nuclear fuels recovery plant--it's a great place to open 'em up and dial in carb settings/replace jets. (Fyi: the entire plant where they worked on the spent fuel rods and all the soil to a depth of about 20 feet under this "lagoon" have been completely removed; this was the site of the only fatality due to a radiation leak in the United States, right down the road from little old me:fire)
Anyway. Brendan's let me take his race bikes down the straight-away a couple of times, and even though I didn't time it (going too fast, heh heh heh) there's little liklilhood of 0 - 60 in 1.96 seconds even on those rice rockets...but I'd say my friends race bikes can hit 60 between 2-3 seconds--it's frikkin scary! That much power and speed so fast is addictive too, which is why my friend keeps racing despite the injuries and potential for death. Me, since the kids have come along, I've slowed down alot...
But whoever says their car goes that fast is so full of shit--here's some stats I found after about 30 seconds of surfing the web, so shut the fuck up, Chico man. I'd paint three of those murals for some of that act!
I'd also like to point out that first classic car and third on the list is the 1966 AC Cobra 427--Built By Ford, Baby!!!
Performance Statistics: 0-60 mph
1994 McLaren F1 2.60 s
1998 Mercedes-Benz CLK-GTR 2.70 s
1966 AC Cobra 427 3.50 s
1996 Ferrari F50 3.60 s
1991 Ferrari F40 3.70 s
2002 Porsche 911 GT2 3.70 s
1995 Lamborghini Diablo SE 5.7 3.75 s
2003 Dodge Viper SRT-10 3.94 s
2002 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 4.20 s
1998 Dodge Viper GTS-R 4.30 s
2000 BMW Z8 4.30 s
2003 Ferrari 575M Maranello F1 4.33 s
1998 Subaru Impreza WRX 22B Sti 4.40 s
2002 Mitsubishi Lancer EVO VII 4.50 s
2000 Maserati 3200 GT 4.50 s
2004 Subaru Impreza WRX Sti Sedan (U.S. spec speculation) 4.59 s
2003 Mercedes-Benz SL 55 AMG 4.60 s
1997 Ferrari F355 Spider 4.60 s
2001 BMW M3 4.69 s
2003 Ford Mustang SVT Cobra 4.70 s
2002 Maserati Cambiocorsa Spyder 4.70 s
1997 Lotus Esprit Turbo 4.70 s
2001 BMW M5 4.80 s
1970 Ford Mustang Boss 429 4.90 s
1994 Toyota Supra Turbo 4.90 s
1999 Chevrolet Corvette LS1 Hardtop 5.00 s
2001 Holden GTS R (Aus) 5.00 s
1993 Mazda RX-7 Twin Turbo 5.00 s
2002 Mercedes-Benz C 32 AMG 5.00 s
2002 Audi S8 Quattro 5.10 s
1989 Pontiac Trans Am Turbo 5.10 s
2001 Mercedes-Benz CLK 55 AMG 5.10 s
1996 Aston Martin DB7 5.10 s
2001 Ford Mustang SVT Cobra 5.16 s
2001 Panoz Esperante 5.20 s
1994 Dodge Stealth R/T Turbo 5.20 s
1998 Chevrolet Camaro SS 5.20 s
1997 Acura NSX-T 5.20 s
2003 Ford Mustang Mach 1 5.29 s
1970 Oldsmobile 4-4-2 W-30 5.30 s
2001 Porsche Boxster S 5.30 s
2003 Dodge Neon SRT-4 5.34 s
2003 Nissan 350Z Track 5.38 s
1998 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 5.40 s
2001 Audi S4 Quattro 5.40 s
1994 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 5.46 s
2001 Jaguar XKR 5.50 s
1987 Buick Regal Grand National GNX 5.50 s
1973 Porsche 911 Carrera RS 5.50 s
1997 BMW M3 5.50 s
1995 Ford Escort RS Cosworth (U.K.) 5.50 s
2002 Subaru Impreza WRX Sedan 5.55 s
2003 BMW Z4 3.0i 5.60 s
2003 Porsche Boxster S 5.60 s
2001 BMW 330 xi 5.70 s
2003 BMW 330 Ci Coupe 5.73 s
2003 Acura 3.2CL Type-S 5.80 s
2002 BMW 745i 5.96 s
1991 Toyota MR2 Turbo Coupe 6.00 s
2002 Infiniti Q45 6.00 s
2001 Cadillac Deville DTS 6.10 s
1968 Chevrolet Corvette L88 6.10 s
2003 Porsche Boxster 6.12 s
2000 Porsche Boxster 6.16 s
2000 Honda S2000 6.17 s
2002 Acura RSX Type-R (Jap) 6.18 s
1999 Plymouth Prowler 6.20 s
2002 Lexus SC430 6.20 s
2003 Infiniti G35 6.20 s
1985 Chevrolet Corvette 6.20 s
1998 Ford Mustang GT 6.20 s
2004 Infiniti FX45 6.23 s
1998 Volvo C70 Coupe 6.30 s
2001 BMW 540 i 6.30 s
2002 Opel Speedster 6.30 s
1967 Maserati Ghibli 6.35 s
2003 Acura 3.2TL Type-S 6.40 s
2001 Audi TT Coupe Quattro 225 HP 6.40 s
2001 Audi A6 4.2 Quattro 6.50 s
2001 BMW 330 i 6.50 s
2002 Acura RSX Type-S 6.50 s
2001 Acura Integra Type R 6.53 s
2001 Jaguar S-Type 4.0 6.60 s
1994 Alfa Romeo 164 Quadrifoglio 6.60 s
1989 Toyota Supra Turbo 6.60 s
2002 Volkswagen GTI 1.8T 6.60 s
1990 Mazda RX-7 Turbo 6.60 s
1995 Volvo 850 T-5R 6.61 s
1995 Eagle Talon TSI AWD 6.70 s
2000 Saab 9-3 Viggen 3-Door 6.70 s
1989 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z 6.70 s
2002 Mercedes-Benz CLK 430 Convertible 6.70 s
2000 Audi TT Coupe 180HP 6.70 s
1997 Honda Prelude SH 6.70 s
2001 Audi TT Roadster Quattro 225 HP 6.74 s
1993 Ford Mustang LX 5.0 Coupe 6.77 s
1997 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP Sedan 6.80 s
2003 Mazda 6 s 6.80 s
1998 Mercedes-Benz E 320 AWD 6.80 s
2002 BMW 330 i 6.84 s
2003 Mazda Protégé MazdaSpeed 6.90 s
2002 Jaguar X-Type 3.0 6.90 s
1995 Volkswagen GTI VR6 6.90 s
2001 Toyota MR2 Spyder 6.90 s
1991 Dodge Stealth ES 6.99 s
2002 Acura RSX 7.00 s
2001 BMW 330 Ci Convertible 7.00 s
1999 Volvo V70 R AWD 7.00 s
1999 Cadillac Seville STS 7.00 s
2001 BMW 325 i 7.00 s
2000 Subaru Impreza 2.5 RS Sedan (Maitreg's) 7.00 s
2003 Honda Accord EX V-6 Sedan 7.02 s
1997 Volvo 850 T5 7.04 s
2003 Cadillac CTS 7.05 s
1998 Mercedes-Benz E 320 7.10 s
1998 Ford Contour SVT 7.10 s
1999 Bentley Arnage 7.10 s
2001 Acura 3.2CL 7.10 s
2002 Lexus IS300 7.10 s
1997 Ford Probe GT 7.12 s
2002 Audi A4 3.0 Quattro 7.14 s
2003 Hyundai Tiburon GT 7.18 s
2002 Pontiac Vibe GT 7.20 s
1989 BMW 535 i 7.20 s
2002 MINI Cooper S 7.21 s
2002 Audi A4 3.0 CVT 7.28 s
2003 Dodge Stratus R/T 2.7 Sedan 7.29 s
1999 Volvo S80 T6 7.30 s
2002 Volkswagen Jetta GLS 1.8T 7.30 s
1991 Chevrolet Lumina Z34 7.30 s
2002 Nissan Sentra SE-R Spec V 7.36 s
2002 Dodge Neon ACR 7.38 s
1999 BMW 328 i 7.40 s
2002 Nissan Sentra SE-R 7.40 s
1994 Chevrolet Impala SS 7.40 s
1989 Toyota MR2 Supercharged 7.40 s
1986 Pontiac Fiero GT 7.42 s
2003 Volkswagen GTI VR6 7.44 s
1988 Mazda 323 GT 7.45 s
2001 Toyota Celica GT-S 7.46 s
2000 Subaru Impreza 2.5 RS Sedan 7.50 s
1999 Saab 9-3 SE 5-door 7.50 s
2003 Mercury Marauder 7.50 s
2001 Lexus IS300 7.50 s
2002 Subaru Impreza 2.5 RS 7.50 s
1988 Merkur XR4TI 7.52 s
2003 Honda Accord EX 2.4 Sedan 7.58 s
1997 Volkswagen Jetta GLX VR6 7.60 s
2002 Ford Focus SVT 7.60 s
2001 Dodge Neon R/T 7.60 s
1986 Mazda RX-7 GXL 7.64 s
2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee V8 Limited 2WD 7.64 s
1999 Mercury Cougar V6 7.65 s
1997 Chevrolet Cavalier Z24 7.70 s
2001 Mazda Miata 7.70 s
1997 Audi A4 2.8 Quattro 7.70 s
2003 Lincoln Aviator 7.70 s
1999 Rolls-Royce Silver Seraph 7.70 s
2001 Toyota Celica GT 7.81 s
1990 Ford Probe GT 7.89 s
1998 Honda Accord EX V6 Coupe 7.90 s
2001 Lincoln LS V6 7.90 s
2000 Ford Mustang Coupe 7.90 s
2000 Honda Civic SI 7.95 s
1999 Chrysler 300M 7.97 s
1997 Hyundai Tiburon FX 8.00 s
2003 Honda Civic SI 8.00 s
1996 Chevrolet Camaro 3.8 V6 8.00 s
2003 Toyota Corolla LE 8.08 s
1992 Subaru SVX AWD 8.08 s
1992 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 8.10 s
2003 Honda Pilot EX 8.12 s
2003 Mazda 6 i 8.15 s
2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee V8 Limited 4WD 8.19 s
2002 Saturn Vue V6 AWD 8.20 s
1994 GMC Sonoma SLS 8.20 s
1991 Toyota MR2 8.22 s
1990 Chevrolet Beretta GT 8.30 s
2002 Mazda Protégé MP3 8.30 s
1991 Ford Escort GT 8.30 s
1997 Ford Escort ZX2 Sport 8.30 s
1981 Delorean DMC-12 8.30 s
1991 Nissan 240SX SE 8.30 s
1989 Mazda 323 GTX 8.40 s
1999 Pontiac Grand Am GT 8.40 s
2001 Chevrolet Monte Carlo SS 8.40 s
1993 Toyota Camry SE V6 8.45 s
1998 Isuzu Amigo V-6 8.50 s
1982 Triumph TR-8 8.50 s
1984 Toyota Supra 8.50 s
1997 Saturn SC2 8.50 s
1999 Saab 9-5 SE 8.50 s
2003 Hyundai Sonata GLS 8.59 s
1999 Lexus RX300 8.60 s
2001 Chrysler PT Cruiser 8.60 s
1998 Mazda 626 EX 8.60 s
1993 Honda Civic SI Hatchback 8.61 s
1997 Audi A4 1.8T Quattro 8.70 s
1994 Chevrolet Beretta Z26 8.70 s
2001 Ford Focus ZX3 8.70 s
1990 Ford Probe LX 8.70 s
2003 Mazda Protege5 8.71 s
1998 Ford Crown Victoria Police Edition 8.80 s
1996 Honda Civic EX Coupe 8.80 s
2002 Honda CR-V EX 8.80 s
1986 Ford Mustang LX V6 8.80 s
2002 Jeep Liberty Limited 4x4 8.90 s
1995 BMW 318 ti 8.90 s
1997 Cadillac Catera 8.90 s
1986 Toyota MR2 8.98 s
2002 Mitsubishi Lancer O-Z Rally 8.99 s
1998 Lincoln Town Car 9.00 s
1997 Ford Probe 9.04 s
1995 Chevrolet Blazer LS 4X4 9.20 s
2002 Volkswagen Passat GLX 4Motion 9.20 s
1995 Chevrolet Camaro V6 9.28 s
2001 Nissan Frontier SC Crew Cab 4x4 9.30 s
1990 Honda Civic Si 9.31 s
1997 Mitsubishi Galant ES 9.39 s
2003 Lincoln Navigator 9.40 s
2000 Chevrolet Impala Police Package 9.40 s
2003 Subaru Forester 2.5X 9.40 s
2001 Subaru Forester L 9.50 s
1996 Honda Civic EX Sedan 9.50 s
2001 Pontiac Sunfire SE Sedan 9.58 s
1993 Citroen XM 9.60 s
2002 Chevrolet Avalanche Z71 9.70 s
2002 Kia Sedona EX 9.70 s
1996 Suzuki Esteem GLX 9.80 s
2002 Kia Rio 9.80 s
1996 Geo Prizm 9.80 s
1999 Infiniti G20 9.90 s
1992 Chevrolet Lumina Euro 10.20 s
1998 Toyota Camry LE 2.2 10.40 s
1995 Land Rover Discovery 10.40 s
1989 Daihatsu Charade CLS 10.50 s
1997 Volkswagen GTI 2.0 10.52 s
2003 Hummer H2 10.70 s
1986 Honda Civic CRX HF 11.80 s
1983 Chevrolet Cavalier CS 13.20 s
2001 Hummer (AM General) H1 14.80 s
1987 Yugo GV 15.40 s