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isus
January 27th, 2003, 12:06 AM
in the midst of depression, i have intrigued myself to understand what the meaning of life is. there are many underpinnings as to why i thought this up, if it is necessary to know, i suppose i could tell.. either way, vote!
Rahwgwar
January 27th, 2003, 01:08 AM
I too have been battling bouts of depressions myself. I've had problems w/ OCD and social anxiety disorder to an extent. I run on pure adrenaline and have extreme ups and downs that seem to show up sometimes, like a manic depressive. For the OCD, I've seen my doctor and for now I've gotten it under control except for this stupid crap that I always rationalize or justify. I've wondered about Paxil to help some depression and anxiety, but I HATE depending on products to help me out. I mean my life is much, much better than a lot and what I'm dealing with is just a microcosm of a microcosm. I'd rather work things out using my head and taking control of my life. When it really comes down to it, I would take motivation courses and stuff like that, but I would not take pills or medication unless absolutely necessary. I've asked myself this question many times and have done some weird ass shit alone. Sometimes my mind works in odd ways and I can't distinguish the tangible and intangible and question some really stupid crap. (No I am not high nor am i schizo). It's kinda indescribable.
Man, but in all seriousness, I'm still searching for the answer. I've drifted away from my faith the past few years, so I don't really know how to answer it. I'm kinda in the same boat as you. But you know, just be happy in life and try not to sweat the small things. I'm trying to take it one step at a time and really live life to the fullest from now. Not let my weird conscience ask stupid questions and only worry about the important stuff. I guess that didn't help you much, but u know, just wanna let u know that I feel for ya. And looking back on it, it felt good to release these feelings.
Krell
January 27th, 2003, 01:57 AM
Very few people know how bad off I was before Christmas. In my search for signifigance, I asked the same questions.
There are so many layers to peel off, so much hype and euphemism. At the core, what does it really really boil down to?
Even the questions like, what makes you happy?, are not the right ones. Purpose, reward, expectation, all weigh in the balance.
I cant answer any of these for you. I can say, that historically, Paxil was the only friend I had, and when you walk thru a Right Aid @ 2:am drinking Pepto Bismol and throwing up blood, its time for Paxil. 1/2 a tablet worked great for me, saved my life. Are pharmaceuticals the answer, NO , theyre a bandaid, to help you find the real answers.
You may not particularly like me, or care to hear my meager 2 cents, but when it comes down to it, I find that most personal differences fade fast, and are petty. I hope you find some resolve.
cheers
stuperfied
January 27th, 2003, 02:07 AM
We are built up and built up with all the knowledge of our forfathers so we can use it to teach others and make life a little better.............Why?
We have this huge brain which allows us to understand how and why things happen and it's completely useless because none of it realy matters in the big picture of existance anyway.
A lot of people have trouble comming to terms with the fact that they are just like all the other creatures on this plannet and their life means exactly nothing.
This kind of thinking is called a superiority complex so in response to isus's post I think there should be another sellection "Life has no meaning"
As you can see I also suffer from depression.
This is exactly why I'm trying to get things like the X Prize and the users internet happenning, I think that maybe if we banded togeather to achieve something we might at least get remembered and that to me is worth something.
sleepischeap
January 27th, 2003, 02:27 AM
everyones life has a different meaning. even if you knew the meaning of life what difference would it make.
stuperfied
January 27th, 2003, 02:38 AM
Ok, if you want a reason for your exhistance then try this.
The plannet's eco system is allway's changing and trying to adapt because if it does not adapt it dies.
we are just another adaption. After the many eyons the plannet has endured and the multitudes of species which have become extinct the plannet evolved a species capable of adaption just like it in the hopes that this new species would find a way to survive and maybe just maybe if it does survive it will serve to help the rest of the ecosystem to survive aswell.
So basically your here to try to find a way to ensure the continuance of life it's-self.
Great job we are doing too hey........
chipperrox
January 27th, 2003, 06:52 AM
life is about leaving the world a better place than when you came.
life is about leaving you memory. someone who is rememberd fondly is not truly dead.
SUPrEmEBeInGismyFrIeND
January 27th, 2003, 07:27 AM
Rahwgwar i can relate the most to you
MoonMan
January 27th, 2003, 07:59 AM
What does it mean when life isn't worth as much to you as it was? What if life has become so meaningless to you that continuing it would only serve to make it worse?
These are the kind of questions that I have asked myself and sometimes the answer isn't a good one.
I have battled depression for what seems like an eternity (most of my child life.. I'm 18 now). No one was ever there for me, nothing ever went right, and I never got anywhere. Seemed like anything I touch turned to piss, and everyone I met ended up hating me. I still am not over that, but I have learned (well partially) to control these feelings so I don't run out the friends I still have. Asking for pity is not the way to go about it.
I don't take pharmesuticals because I hate doctors, and anything to do with them. The only support for me would be my friends who live near me(especially my best friend apoo.. poor guys dad just died), my brother whom I owe my life too, and the internet for keeping me busy. I am what some people would call, a guy with no life. I left school, work at a pretty low paying job, and play with computers most of the day. Why am I posting this? Because I have nothing to hide, and as Rahwgwar said above, it feels better to release things like this. I know I have opened myself up for some nasty comments by a few trolls who only come here to attack users, but they are probably as bad off as I am or worse so posting anything here would only prove my point.
Things are better than they were though, not by much. I have learned to coop with certain issues and have started going out more (*gasp* lol).
Now don't take my post for a suicidal cry for help, because a) I'm too chicken shit to ever try and do it, and b) I have too many things that would only be hurt more by something like that (my little brother would be one).
EDIT: I just realised how depressing my post is, and I would like to point out that these are mostly feelings that I have gotton used to and my outlook on life is better.
By the way, 'Bad Religion - Faith Alone' is a recommended song for those of you who understand where I am coming from.
isus
January 27th, 2003, 09:24 AM
wow... im glad i asked this question, it has brought on many interesting answers.
i love zp bc there are ppl you can talk to about life at anytime.
thanks guys
PatientSaint
January 27th, 2003, 09:56 AM
I think for the most part everyone has their struggles in life...I guess it comes down to we all make life what we want it to be. Life is about having dreams and passions whether that might be in ur love life, professional, or some other venue of ur private life. My feelings are if u haven't got any dreams or passions...ur more or less dead.
They're they essance of what makes at least makes me wake up every morning. When it comes down to it...every day is going to bring new challenges and also new hopes and dreams. Everything can change in a minute whether it be bad or good. Just gotta live with the bad and revel in the joyous times in life. After having to bury 2 grandparents u realize how much life is a gift and u never know when ur going to go or when someone that is dear to you is.
I guess the best i can do is quote from Contact
"sometimes the only thing that makes the emptyness of life bearable is each other"
While that's prolly not on target exactly i hope u all get the point. when it comes down to it we have each other in life....friends family,lovers...
Til next time i wish u all find inner peace and happiness in life...
Tremaine
January 27th, 2003, 10:17 AM
this is a question i cannot answer myself there to much fucked up shit in the world that you cannot explain, like it the reason i dont completly believe in the the catholic religion, the only thing i can really believe is something had to make us, but what ever made us the thing is how can you explain what created that, so in the end you can never explain life. and that is what bugs me, so in the end i just try to enjoy my life to best of what i can.
wingnut2600
January 27th, 2003, 02:06 PM
This weekend I was in a funk... you know, the kind when everything has lost its color and life. I am better now, but it still comes at times...
I realize every once in a while that I become so depressed that I cannot deal with anything, but this is just momentary, and, if I don't freak out and lose it, I will regain composure and not be locked up.
I am not that depressed any more, although I have very strong anti-social leanings. I am excellent in a group environment, as long as I do not have to make a real connection.
Strangely enough, I am married to a wonderful person that hates the world yet loves it in a similar manner to myself, so we have one another to lean on when the other gets down.
At one point, I was diagnosed as Bi-polar and have taken Lithium, Zoloft, Paxil (I have taken real "hard" drugs, and nothing compares to when I stopped taking Paxil after a year--I could not do anything but sleep for two days; I crashed--it was horrible), Depacote, and Wellbutrin (also used to stop smoking). These drugs did nothing but make my perceptions of the world thin and colorless, so I have stopped taking them for years. I realize now that I just am depressed, and that I made my doctor think that I was Manic so that I could get better drugs that might actually make me feel better.
I do not believe in medication to stop depression. It is a personal process that all should go through to alleviate these conditions. Drugs can help, but counseling and positive self-talk/meditation help quite a bit more.
Depression is something that I believe can be overcome through humor and perspective. The world is absurd, and we are not taught to appreciate this inherent madness and self-contradictory climate in which we live.
I realized one day that I am a good person, with many excellent traits, and that no other person deserves the right to life and happiness than me (or any of you). This realization allowed me to not be held down by the vague (yet strong) constraints that society holds over me. I now try to do whatever I wish to make myself feel better.
Unfortunately often I procrastinate or just avoid interaction with the world, so I should break-out and face it head-on--in order to defeat the spectre of depression that looms over my shoulder and tries to convince me that I am not good enough or do not deserve something.
Back to the question at hand; what is life about?
Life is about whatever you make it. You have the ability to shape the world to whatever your particular vision is.
I hate SNL, but I love the character Stuart Smalley and his quote, which holds tru to all humans, "I am good enough, smart enough, and gosh-darnit, people like me." This is positive self-actualization, and it is the cornerstone to achieving your full potential. If you say a personal mantra to yourself, eventually you will believe it.
I try to lodge an idea similar to this in my subconscious--close enough to guide, but distanced to avoid actively hindering my own journey of self-potentiation. It is basically that I can do anything I set my mind to... and I can if I focus my thought, energy and resources into the task at hand.
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Thought #2 - life is about nothing---we were born through random chance into a world that we wanted nothing of. The only way out is to cause our own destruction, yet if we do not do this, it will eventually take us without any prior knowledge; death is waiting and can strike any time---even now.
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Thought #3 - People that are depressed are often just open to the reality of the world instead of the artificial social constructs that surround us. I feel depressed because I was told that there was an Easter Bunny and that if I was good that I would never know death. I never believed this because I saw through this as social control to keep people doing what is right in a world without order.
I believe that there is natural morality based upon the fact that humans are social creatures. Killing is wrong since it is against our own species and that is intrinsic in a social creature. Religion tries to make these natural rules for human interaction and explain them in the context of laws and consequences that take away from out free will.
Religions attempt to explain something that is unexplainable and make us feel secure in our place in the universe. They do a good job of this, but there is a price. This price is the understanding of something on many levels--sometimes self-contradictory and paradoxical. I see things in many ways and can argue against myself--I try to look at things from all hypothetical viewpoints and discern the best answer for the time or create an amalgamation or discard them all--and then it can be changed. Religion does not allow for this plasticity of thought. Life is black and white (yet everybody knows that it is colored).
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Life is what you make of it... no one else before or after sees or understands the world as you will. You are an individual that came here by chance... all of the possibilities in the universe are within your grasp.
I could go on, but why?
Undermind
January 27th, 2003, 02:09 PM
life is life, just live it
method
January 27th, 2003, 03:15 PM
Hmmmm.... I already gotta girl.. totally.. and if problems (other than females) occur.. another girl just.... urm... arrives.
I gotta theory.
It's the computer-nerd.. lack of females theory.
I think it distorts the vote.
Life is about 42. 42 is the meaning of everything so...
Why isn't 42 in the poll?
Life is about having fun, procreating, making sure your procreations are set up to have fun.. and then.. having more fun. Get a girl, have a holiday, work hard make money, have lots of holidays, have kids, have holidays, have fun, money, fun, girls, fun, divorce, fun, old-age, fun, hip replacement, fun, kids begging for money, fun.. and so on..
So... HAVE FUN!!!!
Peace!!
macazar88
January 27th, 2003, 03:24 PM
eating,drinkin,fuckin ,sucking,snorting,You sit,you get a bag for a bell,y,you get tits ,they need a bra...they got hair on them and evryday u eat the same shit livin like these fuckin momies.................... ScarFAce
chipperrox
January 27th, 2003, 03:37 PM
go up to a scrabble bag, pull out the letters.
t-h-e m-e-a-n-i-n-g o-f l-i-f-e i-s s-i-x t-i-m-e-s ......n-i-n-e
- hitchikers guide to the galaxy. (follow up to whoever said it was "42")
The Hunter
January 27th, 2003, 04:29 PM
Only someone that has been truly depressed, can understand how hard it can be to honest about it. the reasons for depression vary from person to person. When you can drag your sorry butt out of bed in the morning, and say this is going to be another God awful day, but I am going to make it, through it. Then you know you are on the right track, one day, and one step at a time. For me professional help, but most of all good friends that wouldnt let me alone, have helped the most. Support from friends helps, and after you gain controll of your thoughts, you pass it on, and give support to your friends, both new and old.
Sorry about messing up another thread.
stuperfied
January 27th, 2003, 04:46 PM
Your quite right hunter, no-one knew what I was going through untill the age of 19 and then no-one knew the cause of my depression untill just last year. It is very hard to tell someone your troubles associated with depression and that you have tried to take your own life. So sadly a lot of people end up dealing with it on their own.
dr. damn
January 27th, 2003, 04:54 PM
I think Peeves of http://www.askpeeves.com summed it up the best:
January 23, 2003
Dear Peeves,
What is the meaning of life?
- religious ponderer
religious ponderer --
Since your brain is obviously the size of a pea, let me explain something to you. Meaning is a human idea. Without humans, who would give things meaning? Now was their life before humans? Of course. I hope you can draw your own conclusion, dullard.
The Hunter
January 27th, 2003, 04:58 PM
Originally posted by stuperfied
Your quite right hunter, no-one knew what I was going through untill the age of 19 and then no-one knew the cause of my depression untill just last year. It is very hard to tell someone your troubles associated with depression and that you have tried to take your own life. So sadly a lot of people end up dealing with it on their own.
OMG, For me dealing with it on my own, could have been a big disaster, but the Dr, and most of all my better half, have helped me more than I can ever explain. To those that always dismiss people with strange posts, and polls that appear to make no sence. Well you never know, it might just be a person you can give a helping hand to. Those that have gone through it, learn to read the signs. Peace folks.
Also i know that is not the kind of help we usually give, but with all the bad thoughts these days, some good thoughts cant be all bad.
stuperfied
January 27th, 2003, 04:58 PM
Yeah, pretty much what I said earlier in my seccond post to this thread but no-one paid any attention.
Rickio
January 27th, 2003, 06:03 PM
Life is a experience not a question and what makes it tolerable and worthwhile is Love and Friendships.
We don't ask what is the meaning of a flower or a sunset, or what is the meaning of beauty or a mountain. We can ask those questions but it seems silly huh?
Life is a ever evolving experience. It is for us to learn and become ever more aware.
Life is a journey and some say the journey is the reward. So if it is that we are all going somewhere or that the journey itself is all their is. We could find it much more worthwhile when we have and feel love and friendship with one another.
When one feels kinship and love in our lives it gives us strength and purpose and happiness.
peace!
P.S. this is my short answer :-)
we all will find own paths in this life. this can be discussed on and on I am sure.
tackdaddy
January 27th, 2003, 06:17 PM
life is about death,you live to die.
stuperfied
January 27th, 2003, 06:28 PM
Exhistance is like one big waiting room for me and we are all in it (I used to be a smoker and it's kind of like waiting for someone to offer you a smoke), the only problem is that I don't think there is anything to wait for. Though one of my "near experiences" taught me that even though I didn't think that there is a point, I'm worried about all the fun experiences I might miss out on like sky diving, hand glyding, bungy jumping, snow boarding, base jumping, flying a plain, travelling over seas, crashing the stock exchange (jks, lol) and the most important thing to me.........Spending time with my friends and those who I love.
Maybe this could be the meaning of life for you too.
stuperfied
January 27th, 2003, 07:22 PM
And now here is a group with a rather different view of what life is all about.The Gnortic Religeon (http://www.gnosis.org/gnintro.htm)
An old friend just stopped in to say hello and it turns out that he like the rest of us is still asking the same questions about our origins. He gave me that site to review as an example of one of the Religeons that seem to be trying to talk sence rather than wishfull thinking.
TipYourBartender
January 27th, 2003, 08:02 PM
To be honest, thinking about the meaning of life is one of those things that I feel inevitably leaves you depressed. So if you are already depressed, it becomes a vicious cycle - you get depressed, you search for meaning, get more depressed, keep searching for meaning, get EVEN MORE depressed, and so it goes.
The only thing you can do with life is live each day like it's your last. Do so, and you will never have to question life's meaning. You'll just LIVE it.
f---in lurker
January 27th, 2003, 08:23 PM
I don't have a clue what this or that means, and although I think no one else has a clue either, it sure is entertaining to read the theories... If my attention span wasn't so messed up right now I'd love to read the text on that gnostic website.
BTW, people who seem to be knowledgeable on the subject have said that "The Matrix" helped to spread a bunch of gnostic ideas on pop culture... Is that correct?
Do you know that some people think we live inside a big sorta computer? And if we learn the means for that, we can hack it?
Have you also read interesting theories about life, existence, this sort of thing? Of course, you're all free to ignore my post if you like.
PatientSaint
January 27th, 2003, 11:23 PM
stuperfied-
Ty for the great read. Was very imformative and i concure on alot of the stuff on that site...as usual the search for truth whether it is material or spiritual is a drive for me....
I belive Rick and i said it best one night... Many paths we walk but we all end up at the same destination...Wheter u belive oblvion or some other next level of energy...
I find it funny sometimes how we all see things on a mental level such as evolution(whether some admit its relevance is anotehr story) is how on an intuitive level i think we all sense that there is more to life than eat, sleep, procreate then die.
The truth is out there ..and we now have the greatest access to it more then ever...sometiemsthe answers and truth we crave is in front of us. Look for it..seek it out and think for yourself when u receive some answers.
Munchables
January 28th, 2003, 12:16 AM
The meaning of life has consumed me for the past year. I wan't to dissmiss religon and beleve in only what our scince can prove to this at this point in time. However I have seen too much that science can't explane. I find most religons verry silly and it is driving our culture to insantiy. We as human are not built to deal with the constrants that most religons put on us. (IE restricting sex)
You can't battle genes with stupid laws that are 5,000 years old.
So I find my self as budist. There is one problem our "god" (budist are athests but for a lack of a better word) is infnate and when you reach enlightenment you join god. However if my god is Infanate then what would be gaind by me joining it? Nothing. But to gain enlightenment you must be self less and not wan't anything. As well as not hate or dislike anything.
So then what is life if god has no use for me? Is life ment to be fun and is here to entertane? Then why is it so hard? Is life a punnishment or a contest?
So I am left EXTREEMLY depressed, with no ansers for my questions.
Theinfamousone
January 28th, 2003, 12:56 AM
Well, I don't know what it is, but I think that there's a lot more depressed people than any other time (except maybe WW2 or something) and it really seems like everyone has their own set of problems, but there must be opposition in all things. Without sadness, you wouldn't even understand happiness. That's one of the universe's natural laws. What is really important to anyone in life is hope. That's what life comes from. That tomorrow will be a better day.
That's what sets the whole frame of mind for life, it's like hell, there's weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth, not because it is a bad place, but because you'd know there is no progression to look forward to, it's pretty amazing that it doesn't change at all even in the next life, or the previous one for that matter. 'm LDS (or Mormon), we believe there was a life before this where Heavenly Father created a plan of happiness, a plan that allows us to progress to be more like him, life is about learning to perfect ourselves.
stuperfied
January 28th, 2003, 05:51 AM
I don't think I like the thought of an after life and continuing through all exhistance. I think I would get incredably bored because how many times can you do everything before you get bored with it, heaps yes but your going to reach a point when you no longer take any interest in doing anything. At that point all there would be left is time.
So hand's up, who want's to exist forever?
MoonMan
January 28th, 2003, 06:12 AM
Good question stuperfied.. I never thought of it that way.
By the way, this comment (below) isn't very tasteful and I wonder what the poster was thinking when they made it. (My opinion.)
"And those who are depressed... follow Lewis Blacks fine advice... If you need color.. there's always a razor blade and ya wrists!"
The Hunter
January 28th, 2003, 06:31 AM
It has been corrected.
Believer
January 28th, 2003, 08:54 AM
Life's about serving others.
By serving others, you serve yourself.
LooP
January 28th, 2003, 12:14 PM
most of you may have heard this, and it may sound cheesy, but i believe this to be the true answer for myself:
The meaning of life is to give life meaning
mr1337pants
January 29th, 2003, 05:09 AM
It's all about teh hawt sex0r.
MonkeyMEN RULE
January 30th, 2003, 03:06 PM
life is a bitch and then you die...
although most might not realize it a t first, people live life oppressed. They are born under the oppresion of their parents. When they get older they get their asses shoved into a system of social conformity...aka "education." Their they are oppresed by their instructors... then after at least 13 years of of this crap they either try to get a piece of shit job or spend another 4-8 years in college... at their job they get their asses chewed off by their bosses....
... i haven't even talked about individuals yet...
in short lifes a bitch because we are all oppressed by society...
if you think this is wrong go ahead and flame it... you'll just be reaffirming my point
klgray
February 1st, 2003, 05:10 AM
I have a lot of problems with depression and lack of self worth etc... I'm taking about 400mg of Effexor a day which is helping some.
What is life about? For me, it's about being to let love in and to be able to love. Just as important, it's about being free ; free enough to say, feel, and be as you are and without the fear of critisism in return. I could be wrong, but I strongly believe that everyone has a need to be liked. People, so afraid of what others think (including myself) tend to modify themselves to be liked or good enough for another person just to get by in this world.
stuperfied
February 1st, 2003, 06:14 AM
Originally posted by klgray
I have a lot of problems with depression and lack of self worth etc... I'm taking about 400mg of Effexor a day which is helping some.
What is life about? For me, it's about being to let love in and to be able to love. Just as important, it's about being free ; free enough to say, feel, and be as you are and without the fear of critisism in return. I could be wrong, but I strongly believe that everyone has a need to be liked. People, so afraid of what others think (including myself) tend to modify themselves to be liked or good enough for another person just to get by in this world.
I have also been prescribed Effexor XR, It is a very strong antidepressant and it's one of the newer one's asside from dothep which is a dinosaur. I have come off it once and I was only on 75mg twice a day cause it is so strong, I got a rebound depression from it. I suggest that you be very carefull with 400mg as it would be seriously warping your sence of reality and you should come down off it very slowley because when I came down off 150mg it made me feel like i was on speed and I lashed out at everyone and then got a suveer rebound depression. I would be very scared if I were you and would make sure that I didn't run out because if you just suddenly stop taking that amount you could be in danger either mentally or physically.
I would like to know who prescribed that amount to you if you were even prscribed to you. if you are taking that much of your own accord I would call you a fool and to go back slowley to taking the prescribed ammount.
I just don't know what to say, you have taken my breath away. I used to have a friend who took leudracres amounts of medication to make himself seem impressive, is this your intention or to gain attention or just that you have an insain doctor?
Please understand that this is not intended as a personal attack on you just that I don't really know what to say. I have been told by my phsyciatrist that the amount you are taking as a once off would serve to give you a high and then you would probably wake up with a headache but I can only guess at the long term effects.
klgray
February 1st, 2003, 06:25 AM
Nope, that's the amount my psychiatrist has prescribed me. I started out at 37mg, and every month he upped my dosage b/c I wasn't doing any better.
I don't know if he's doing the right thing or not. Your response alerted me. My depression is so bad that I have pretty much stopped taking care of myself. I'm too embarassed to give examples, but it's pretty bad. I basically don't have much motivation to do anything. My psychiatrist said that I need medication with a heavy strength of Dopamine in it as it is said to increase motivation. My husband swears I need to get on a different medication, but my psychiatrist keeps pushing the Effexor. Quite honestly, I'm pretty confused as to what I should do. I really need to take some time to think about how I feel and what I need.
Thanks for your response. But I do have one question, why would someone take medication to get attention when a lot of people are embarrased to even admit they have a problem? Just curious. In any case, trying to get attention in itself is a serious problem that merits either meds or therapy.
stuperfied
February 1st, 2003, 06:34 AM
A phsyciatrist while being trained in medication is not a doctor and the sensable thing to do would be to consult a competent doctor on the use of such medications and wether he believes the amount of medication you are being prescribed could be harmfull to your health because phsyciatrists have been known to take the pill over the couch which is very dangerous.
It sounds like your phsyciatrist is doping you up so he/she dosn't have to deal with you. Medication is not a cure in this instance, it is a crutch and if abused it can be harmfull. You need help not drugs.
stuperfied
February 1st, 2003, 06:44 AM
Oh, and to answer your question.
Attention seekers will use any means to get people's attention. It dosn't matter wether it is possitive or negative attention as they are just attention junkies.
They usually start off young having something bad happen to them and for this they are given a lot of attention over a long period of time. They get used to having this attention and they like it because people actually seem to care, then one day that attention just stops (because of one reason or another) and people just go back to treating them normally again.
At that point when people stop paying attention to them they feel alone and like people don't want them anymore so they try to get noticed again in any way they can.
It's a sad reality.
klgray
February 1st, 2003, 06:55 AM
I know this is going off topic a bit, but I love attention too - as much as I can get it. But people who go to abnormal extremes to get attention (like I mentioned before) have serious problems. It's known that people who get the amount of attention that they need growing up, even from infancy, don't look for it as adults. It's the people that were deprived of it that go out of their way looking for it. So in actuality, they do really need attention. What diferentiates them from everyone else is that they're not afraid to act out on it. I need it just as badly as they do, but I know that if I act out on it, that people will accuse me for looking for attention - which for me, is actually worse than the need for attention itself.
Does that make any sense?
stuperfied
February 1st, 2003, 07:28 AM
Yes it does make sence to me and I feel the same way that if people think I am an attention seeker it would be hurtfull to me.
But in the past six years I have spent time around people who are extreme attention seekers and it seems that you are right that people who are starved of attention seek it in latter live and that would also seem to be the logical explination but I have also found that the majority of attention seekers are people who have been sexually, physically or mentally abused at a young age reguardless of weather thay have come from broken homes and have usually been subjected to excessive attention by those around them during this time of crisis and in latter life they seem to be trying to produce any situation which may cause an attentive response. They have not been starved of attention in any way but precicelly the opisite, they have been given too much attention.
In both instances there is a constant which is an abnormal change in the level of attention being given to the individual which seems to invoke the need for more.
Now going back to the original topic that you posted, may I ask how you percieve yourself and where you think that your depression stems from.
Power Penguin
February 1st, 2003, 08:24 AM
The pursuit of happiness and knowledge.
stuperfied
February 1st, 2003, 10:18 AM
Don't forget the fight for survival.
Rickio
February 1st, 2003, 03:39 PM
I think yoga and meditation are a cool way to get in tune with yourself and life.
I have gone through the mdeication route, both prescribed and self prescribed ( you know what I mean , dope) No drugs now.
I read a good article a long time ago saying many forms of depression are caused by our diets. I tried simplifying my food and it helped.
Just a thought.
peace
klgray
February 1st, 2003, 03:50 PM
Originally posted by stuperfied
Now going back to the original topic that you posted, may I ask how you percieve yourself and where you think that your depression stems from.
I can't really pin it down to just one thing. But just to protect myself here, I really don't feel comfortable talking about my past. I hope you don't take this personally or anything.
Anyway, how do I perceive myself? In terms of what? Could you be a little more specific?
klgray
February 1st, 2003, 03:53 PM
Originally posted by Rickio
I think yoga and meditation are a cool way to get in tune with yourself and life.
I have gone through the mdeication route, both prescribed and self prescribed ( you know what I mean , dope) No drugs now.
I read a good article a long time ago saying many forms of depression are caused by our diets. I tried simplifying my food and it helped.
Just a thought.
peace
Yoga is G R E A T! It saved my life while I was living in Japan!!
Rickio
February 1st, 2003, 04:02 PM
Originally posted by klgray
Yoga is G R E A T! It saved my life while I was living in Japan!!
Glad to hear that!
I really dig yoga and not just the the physical aspect .
There is a chinese yoga as well. The history of yoga is extremely ancient and lost in time. But their are 2 cultures which have forms of yoga. Chinese Yoga (not as commonly known or spoken of, and Indian Yoga.
I am may need to read more as I suspect there are also forms in Tibet and surrounding areas. I love learning :-)
peace
stuperfied
February 1st, 2003, 04:59 PM
Originally posted by klgray
Anyway, how do I perceive myself? In terms of what? Could you be a little more specific?
In terms of philosophy.
Lord_of_the_Dense
May 9th, 2004, 07:38 PM
Life is all about strange occurances. Like how the hell this popped up in my View New Posts when the last entry was Feb. of last year.
As far as the poll...none of the above.
Edit - I wonder if this popped up because someone (else) answered the poll above. If so, that may explain several strange things that have been happening with me.
stuperfied
May 9th, 2004, 10:26 PM
My friend Goober replied, he is immaginary so thats why you didnt see the post. :goodjob
Wolfie
June 19th, 2004, 08:05 AM
Meaning of life
DampCold
June 19th, 2004, 10:07 AM
Life is about love, community and people. Giving a lot and receiving a little back.
!pG