Kazaa R.I.P...

[mh2360]

Kazaa will be no more in a couple of months or so (IMHO). Many Audiogalaxy refugees moved to Kazaa, after that was RIAA'd(ed). Where will YOU go next. (If it happens)???

[PornMaster]

If Kazaa die's, i die along with it!

[Sockfulloflove]

kazaa might shutdown, but FastTrack won't.

[Rickio]

It's possible and very likely kazaa will live on.
We have had discsussions on this here before. I didn't pay real close attention as kazaa bores me.

but it all depends on wether kazaa really is a decentralized network or not.

If it truly is decentralized the kazaa business could walk away and the network would go on.

Our members who know more will comment now I am sure.


peace

[Munchables]

I think you under estmate Shareman networks. Ok true they may be sued but they can just refuese to pay it or shutdown there network buecse they have china backing them. Ok maybe in some grand leep of fate china gives in to the US and tells Sharemen networks to take a hike then they will just move there servers to a cuntry that will take them North Korea for one not to mention some prime euro cuntires.

But if kazaa goes under I will probably go eDonkey or G2 they both look good and they look like they will get much better in the next few months.

(G2 going open sorce so other people can add to it and eDonkey is merging Overnet and eDonkey to make a realy nice network.)

[12345678910]

I would like to see the source code distributed if they get shut down by some chance.

12345678910

[hawkburn]

good idea 12345678910. That would lead to great things after or if it gets shut down.

[overdo]

like Rickio said. if kazaa is truely decentralised then nothing much will happen. if its not, then ppl might experience problems logging on, but we'll only know when the time comes. anyways PFT will hopefully be done soon so it might not really bother ppl that much.

also i agree with munchables, sharman aren't going to walk away from the p2p arena cause they are able to make easy money and i'm assuming that they are profitable as well, due to the number of downloads and users they have. even if the RIAA etc win the first court battle, i'm sure sharman will appear, and vice versa.

[evilthecat]

Unlike napster which authenticated with it's servers, Kazaa doesn't authenticate with anything "notice how multiple users can have the same username? The network consists of the supernodes, which "according to specs" are supposed to serve as the search server for the local area. Those supernodes then connect to eachother creating the network. The Riaa would have to attack the supernodes in order to shut down the network, but all the supernode needs to do, is disable that feature, or change their IP then they will reconnect to the network. I think kazaa will survive, but it may slow down if the attacks continue

[maartendc]

Now I use only kazaa lite.
But when it closes, I'll move to all sorts of different things.
Kazaa is good for a little of everything.

But: Emule for movies
Piolet/winmx for music
G2 for a lot of crap I can't find elsewhere

[evilthecat]

I've tried e-mule a few times, could never get any decent dl speed from it "or what I am trying is just not popular ehough"
The latter my be the most correct

[egyptianballa]

whats g2 where can u get it

[GPA]

Shareaza for sure, G2 is Fasttrack but more free (though not totally free like G1....yet).

Really, I'll go no-where really, I use Shareaza and Poliet already, I'll just continue what I do, but without KaZaA.

Plus, I'll use some of the next 10 progies that pop up till they close and the next 30 come up after that.

-GPA

[Nothingface5384]

either way it doesnt effect me...frankly i really dont care for kazaa...i use winmx and xs, i always check back to g2 every few months,and i'm waiting for the edonkey/overnet hybrid client ;)

[Koffee Bean]

omg people come on! Search the forums before making more posts like this, as this was just covered not 3 days ago.

[maartendc]

G2 = Gnutella (version 2)

It has nothing to do with fasttrack. It is very different from fasttrack.
It is completely decentralised (it means you don't have one central server). This has both pros and cons.

There are like a billion Gnutella clients out there, so give one a try.

[zebi]

There are millions of gnutella clients but they all suck.
Exept for shareaza, this client is excellent.

[maartendc]

Yeah but that don't make one bit of difference either does it?

Gnutella just sucks... Don't matter how good the client.
Or does SHareaza make it so much better?

[zebi]

Originally posted by maartendc
Yeah but that don't make one bit of difference either does it?

Gnutella just sucks... Don't matter how good the client.
Or does SHareaza make it so much better?

I ment that shareaza(NOT gnutella) is very good. Gnutella itself sucks, even with the new gnutella2.
If shareaza would be able to connect to another network together with gnutella2 that would be great.
For now , the only things i can actually download from gnutella are very popular songs, but that's about it. Maybe it'll improve now with gnutella being finished and open-source so other gnutella clients can connect to G2.

[Sephiroth]

Originally posted by zebi
I ment that shareaza(NOT gnutella) is very good. Gnutella itself sucks, even with the new gnutella2.
If shareaza would be able to connect to another network together with gnutella2 that would be great.
For now , the only things i can actually download from gnutella are very popular songs, but that's about it. Maybe it'll improve now with gnutella being finished and open-source so other gnutella clients can connect to G2.

"gnutella2" is just a marketing name. Its only a collectiong of GDF proposals and a few of shareaza propierty features. Its a propierty network just like fasttrack with a central body controlling it just like fasttrack. If they let some programs use it then thats still no different than Fasttrack.

Which the Gnutella programs will implement something similar called GUESS which would offer the same and most likly better than "g2" which Mike has said that he would implement GUESS fully or any other GDF alternative which if he keeps his word on that then that will be what is used not Shareaza's Fastrack equilivent network.

Its too early to say that kazaa is going to die anyways. It could drag out for a while yet even assuming that they lose which who knows they might not.

[Vlet]

IMO - who cares. Haven't we all been through this BS long enough to see that as soon as one dies another one just pops up.

[Psilaxs]

In the time it took me to scroll to the bottom of page one, then page two and click reply, I had almost an entire album downloaded from kazaa lite (i shit you not)

I know of NO other network that is as reliable as fasttrack.

I gets knocked plenty, but i feel unrightfully so, many users who bash it, may have tried it once twice or so, but never *really* tried it and simply mimic what they hear about it.

I have tried WinMX, E-donky, Overnet, and E-mule, lots of sources, TONS of sources, painfully slow downloads.

Im not saying others do not have luck with it, but do not believe they get any form of consistant speeds from other networks, regardless of what i am downloading, (movie game music etc) I max out my connection 80% of the time, and the other 20% it is atleast half utilized.

If Fasttrack dies, i have no clue what other program i would use, as kazaa fits all of my needs. And the huge influx of over 4.5 million users is going to be one humongous burden other networks, even if the users divided evenly amongst all the other networks, which is HIGHLY unlikely.

Now here is a question, I know of some people who have great luck (or claim great luck) with programs like overnet, and e-donkey 200) I get nothing EVER i have used overnet and e-donkey many many times, and have never been able to procure 1 single file ever. I let it run for 56 hours straight, with over 400 sources and it would fluctuate between nill and slightly above nill (about 1-3K a second) for a 700+ meg file. Why is this?
(Yes i am aware of overnet and e-mule/donkey upload vs download status, and had uploads going out like mad)

[MoonMan]

Originally posted by Psilaxs
In the time it took me to scroll to the bottom of page one, then page two and click reply, I had almost an entire album downloaded from kazaa lite (i shit you not)

I know of NO other network that is as reliable as fasttrack.

I gets knocked plenty, but i feel unrightfully so, many users who bash it, may have tried it once twice or so, but never *really* tried it and simply mimic what they here about it.

I have tried WinMX, E-donky, Overnet, and E-mule, lots of sources, TONS of sources, painfully slow downloads.

Im not saying others do not have luck with it, but do not believe they get any form of consistant speeds from other networks, regardless of what i am downloading, (movie game music etc) I max out my connection 80% of the time, and the other 20% it is atleast half utilized.

If Fasttrack dies, i have no clue what other program i would use, as kazaa fits all of my needs. And the huge influx of over 4.5 million users is going to be one humongous burden other networks, even if the users divided evenly amongst all the other networks, which is HIGHLY unlikely.

Now here is a question, I know of some people who have great luck (or claim great luck) with programs like overnet, and e-donkey 200) I get nothing EVER i have used overnet and e-donkey many many times, and have never been able to procure 1 single file ever. I let it run for 56 hours straight, with over 400 sources and it would fluctuate between nill and slightly above nill (about 1-3K a second) for a 700+ meg file. Why is this?
(Yes i am aware of overnet and e-mule/donkey upload vs download status, and had uploads going out like mad)

I totally 100% agree with you, FastTrack gets knocked unfairly as much as clients like Shareaza get props.. when in reality I couldn't get 1/10th of the stuff I have recieved from FastTrack from ANY Gnutella client.

I also agree though that this has been talked to death. FastTrack is the most reliable network at the moment and that's a fact... whether you like it or not.

[Captain_FLX]

Shareaza must be on crack or something because i wouldnt make it OpenSource Why? because then dumbass people are going to start making clients that flood the Network like G1 Why cant they keep it to their selfs ? like Kazaa and Grokster and Imesh that's only 3 PROFESSIONAL clients not that people that are 13 yrs old Make Kinda like that client dont remember the name Qtrax or something like that they flooded the G1 Network and still does because it's '' OpenSource '' but anyways I hope G2 doesnt get as bad as G1.

[Jared592]

Originally posted by MoonMan
I totally 100% agree with you, FastTrack gets knocked unfairly as much as clients like Shareaza get props.. when in reality I couldn't get 1/10th of the stuff I have recieved from FastTrack from ANY Gnutella client.

I also agree though that this has been talked to death. FastTrack is the most reliable network at the moment and that's a fact... whether you like it or not.
I'm yet another who feels FastTrack is wrongly knocked all the time by lazy people unwilling to learn to use it correctly and filter the fakes. Especially now that K++ is out, you broadbanders should be ecstatic. I'm a 56ker and I've tried everything (Shareaza, WinMX, EMule, etc) and FastTrack has consistently proven itself to be the fastest, most reliable network (with loads of content).

As far as this topic, it's been done before so GIVE IT A REST!!!

[Psilaxs]

Originally posted by Jared592
I'm yet another who feels FastTrack is wrongly knocked all the time by lazy people unwilling to learn to use it correctly and filter the fakes. Especially now that K++ is out, you broadbanders should be ecstatic. I'm a 56ker and I've tried everything (Shareaza, WinMX, EMule, etc) and FastTrack has consistently proven itself to be the fastest, most reliable network (with loads of content).

As far as this topic, it's been done before so GIVE IT A REST!!!

I am estatic, I recently switched from DSL to cable (What a joy, half the price, faster, and my pings for online games are 1/3rd what they were on dsl)

And with kazaa i can download a song now in under 10 seconds, freaking fantabulous when mp3's come in at 220+K lol

And I agree MoonMan and Jared, even fasttrack has it's intricacies which need to be learned. Though the curve is more linear then others.

BEST Regards,
Psilaxs

[jonny5]

hmm so is it truely decentralized?

Well, morpheus at one time used fasttrack.. forgot to pay it's bills and the algorithm was changed so that it couldn't connect if i'm not mistaken. So i'm guessing, that kazaa can be shut down. What do you guys think?

[Captain_FLX]

Well, morpheus at one time used fasttrack.. forgot to pay it's bills and the algorithm was changed so that it couldn't connect if i'm not mistaken. So i'm guessing, that kazaa can be shut down. What do you guys think?


Not really of course ANYTHING is possible but KaZaA i dont think it's Centralized because they would of shut it down a long time ago that's why they're fighting to Shut it down even tho it's not as easy as Napster of Pull the Plug because it's based on SuperNodes which Napster wasnt but I"m guessing yes it probably can be shut down if they try really hard but right now what they can PROBABLY do is just Shut down the Website. :)

[Theinfamousone]

With Kazauper Node, you can connect to all the super nodes just like DC, so it would be pretty hard to shut it down (of course not very many people have it)

Edit: I mean, if they somehow stopped updating the supernode list on Kazaa when Kazaa goes bankrupt or something, it'd still be possible to connect to them. I don't know if there is much they can do to stop that.

[jonny5]

http://www.slyck.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=833

here's a news story from slyck about an internet firm that "'specializing in the tracking and reporting of stolen content on the Internet'." From their research, they have concluded that kazaa does show signs of "calling home" to one of the islands on the Caribbean island named Nevis. The server is operated by a data computing center. Owned possibly by Joltid.

It seems that the companies that are suing fasttrack tend to agree that the removal of morpheus does demonstrate that fasttrack has "central control."

Then again.. the RIAA is suing fasttrack.. and what do they know about the internet.. they can't even keep their own website from being hacked ;)

[SamJam]

Am I the only one who likes Ares? I admit that I don't use it that much, but I do hook up from time to time. It's one network I would like to see grow because personally I really like the client.
"If" there was a chance of Kazaa or FastTrack going down, I would recommend Ares. I like Shareaza and SoulSeek too, I just hope SoulSeek isn't a slowly sinking ship.

I'll also have to read up on XS. Anyone have opinions about it?

Sam

[Wings_of_Azrael]

Ares does look nice. Doesn't anyone have information on its protocol? I tried it a couple weeks ago, and couldn't find anything to download and no one downloaded anything from me. So I just scrapped it... thinking I might try again later. It's the most Kazaa-like program around, in terms of looks. Whether that's good or bad thing is a matter of taste. Still, I think it would make it comfort zone or former Kazaa users, if FastTrack does get shut down in the future. Also, it's very light in the features department, when compared to K++. I'm sure someone will hack it once the network becomes worth something... which it probably will, unless someone decides to shut it down before it grows. That's really big difference I think the shutting down of Kazaa would make. We have a big company behind Kazaa, giving their all to defend it... if they lose their battle, it'll make all these small, independent file sharing protcols so much easier to shut down. Just look at SoulSeek, Aimster, and some of the others that disappeared silently into the night. It's more than naive to assume that another few file sharing programs will sprout up after Kazaa goes down, and we'll be able to continue as if nothing happened. As for me, I won't feel the shock as much as Kazaa and general P2P users will. I invest my confidence in newsgroups, DirectConnect metal-only hubs, and UnderNet to find my files.

Sorry for the lack of paragraphs and various grammatical errors. It's late.

[metale]

Originally posted by 12345678910
I would like to see the source code distributed if they get shut down by some chance.

12345678910
Just download this software and you will have all the codes and everything to change or to build something new.

[wonderboy2005]

Originally posted by metale
Just download this software and you will have all the codes and everything to change or to build something new.
your just prooving how smart you are constantly arent you? sorry, but in order to make changes in the code of an app you need the source code, which has not been distributed.