filesharing interesting question

[:mochilla]

um, how does new music get on a network like kazaa's?
someone has to buy the cd. I think. Meaning that if noone bought the cd, we'd get no new music. So that means that the RIAA or whatever doesn't have to worry, each new artist will still get a couple sales. Am i right?

[Munchables]

You are pretty much right. However there is an interesting trend of people making there own media. We currently see it with stuff that is easy to create like knock off jackasses and underground techno some rap and other music but not so much. Eventually we will see 20-30 min vector animation probably done in flash or something similar. It will be done in vector because it is really small relatively easy to create and well sense it is all done on a computer then there should be no problem. So in the end such organization like the riaa will crumble because of there lack of adaptation musicians will not make money form there cd sales but rather there tours which is really the way it should be.

[:mochilla]

about the tours, yer absolutely right.

[skunnk1]

Also, remember that sound bytes have no retaining value, but you can buy a CD just released off of an Indie label , when that eventually get signed to a major, and even maybe changes it's cover and liner notes, you can have yourself a little treasure; especially if it's kept in good condition.

[Vlet]

I'd say about 30% of my music collection (about 850 full albums) I have ripped myself either form my own CD's or from a friends. I've tried to remember to encode each one at 256 kilobits.

[method77]

Just imagine! If 1 person gets the cd then the remaining 6 billion people can just get it for free!

[chipperrox]

you know what the riaa neglects to tell the people they are complaning about ("pirates" ahooy matey)--the artist does not make very much money from their cd at ALL! Its nowehre near what you think, they make it from the masses goin to their tours because they just bought the album. The album ends up paying for the studio etc, a little bit of the artist, and....the big companies. Therefor, downloading could actually help the ARTIST because then u wanna go to their tour and maybe u wouldnt cause u wouldnt wanna shell 20bucks an album. The only reason the RIAA is complaining is cause THEY are losing money, and not even artists care about them.

as for those ads like britney tellin u to shop sharin- A)they probably paid her alot to do it b)they probably told her that people were sharing her music etc on computers, and she said "computers?!" they told her "uhh..computers... yea they help the evil slave drivers in sweat factories in malaysia. "oh no thats terrible! I have to help stop this" she replied and filmed the ad.

if that dialogue didnt make sense, il put it plainly: Britney makes her money from the screaming teenage girls and girly guys at her concerts, not from her new "im not a virgin" cd, made by virgin records

[Munchables]

Brity is such a bitch for saying that she is a vergin. It makes my work a whole lot harder. When I say work it is more like a hobby. I think sex this the greatist thing that 2 ppl can do and any one that says other wise IS THE DEVIL! (if I belved in that sort of thing) (pm me if you are mad don't flame me on this thred!) any way well yeah I herd that each hit on a cd the artist makes like 6¢.

[warrior_one2003]

Yeah, they make their $ on the merch & tours.

Plus, if I find a band I like but never heard of, I sometimes will go and buy their cd. This is great marketing. This isn't illegal, give me a break!!!

[Siskabush]

I no longer support any RIAA artists (Not that i hate them all). I dont need that greedy company taking my cash that should belong to the artist.

And britney, She claims she is a virgin, yet she raps about sex, her twat, (Like all those other fags, Jlo, JaRule, etc..)

[blackredblock]

I think the biggest problem is that too many musicians think they should be millionaire after 2 years of singing lessons and one crappy hit. I played in a band myself and toured a few times and I'm sure 99% of the bands that are touring will loose money on it, not because they are bad but because the style is not in favor of many people. Luckily enough for those bands it mostly doesn't matter because they do what they like to do: playing and giving people the opportunity to listen to the music and maybe appreciate it. The cool thing is that it's mostly those bands that are willing to do things themselves (making records, arranging tours, merch etc.) and in the end the ones that are really good will be able to make a living out of it and the rest will see it as a great hobby and hobbies always cost some money. Anyway, it's possible to do what a band wants without coorporating with the big companies but it takes a lot more effort so for the real musicians it's worth it. BTW, the tours we did were all setup by contacts i met on napster and kazaa, without P2P we'd never had the opportunity to make the little dream of playing everywhere in Europe come true.

[Psilaxs]

Hell i bet Britney has had more pussy then most guys here, the slut.

[warrior_one2003]

Yes it is all about the benjamins. I live in a smaller city (south of Sac). Someone set up a battle of the bands and, like 50 people showed up. Most of the bands sucked, but one just ROCKED...What's it like for them to get a contract or to get heard by a wider audience? The corporations are practicing artistic facism, they have their stable of producers and everyone else is left by the wayside. Sharing is a way to promote. The politics around this isn't promoting promoting!!

[AYE-WHY]

Ok so maybe the discussion on MUSIC being shared can MAYBE be argued quite well... what about MOVIES?

I realise the recording companies make most of their money through box-office revenues, but where will they recoup the money spent producing all those DVD's and VHS's of the movies? I haven't bought a DVD in my life and I have LOTS of DVD quality movies in my collection!

We need a good arguement for this one aswell lol :black

[CCSDUDE]

Originally posted by AYE-WHY
Ok so maybe the discussion on MUSIC being shared can MAYBE be argued quite well... what about MOVIES?

I realise the recording companies make most of their money through box-office revenues, but where will they recoup the money spent producing all those DVD's and VHS's of the movies? I haven't bought a DVD in my life and I have LOTS of DVD quality movies in my collection!

We need a good arguement for this one aswell lol :black

Almost ALL of the BO rev's get kicked back to the production company, so they get their 'nut'.

Most people are willing to buy a DVD....extra features and all.

And most don't have the means nor the patients to wait for a 1400 meg 2 disc HQ DivX rip....they'd rather just rent or buy it.

Plus on most popular networks (DC excluded) people don't share OLD movies so you must get them through mail order/stores.

And when I want anime....I want HQ shit....FanSub's come close @ 640x480 resolutions, but I want the disc with it's lil free transparent bookmark or whatever ploy they toss in. Plus the people who rip commercial anime....mostly suck at it. There either blocky and small....the subs are so fucked up from the shitty DivX encoding that I can't read 'em/ect.

The MPAA won't be in the shit ankle deep for some time....really fast broadband hasn't fully taken off yet.

[AYE-WHY]

u make a fair point, however EVERYBODY that i know who has access to a low-downloading broadband speed is downloading 2 to 3 movies a week at the least!

And most people have the opinion along the lines of "if i can get it for free by waiting a few hours for it to download, why pay?"