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skunnk1
January 11th, 2003, 11:34 PM
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An Open Letter from RIAA President Hillary Rosen to Music Pirates Everywhere
august.26.2002

I'm writing this piece not only to answer misguided critics who repeatedly put forth the uninformed claims that music CDs are overpriced and that music downloading hurts no one, but also to concerned parents, teachers, and members of Congress. This piece is partly an answer to critics, partly an attempt to foster open dialog on the issues facing music today, but mostly the intended purpose of this piece is to dispel the myths that surround music sales, music downloading and music licensing.

Myth #1 - CDs are overpriced at $16.99.
People have come to the conclusion that because they can buy 100 blank CDs for 20 cents apiece at Wal-Mart, the sale of a professionally rendered music CD yields a record label $16.79 in pure profit. This couldn't be more untrue. Record labels have many additional costs that need to be recouped in the price of a CD.

First and foremost, the distribution factor must be considered. A CD produced in a factory in Los Angeles has to be physically shipped to a Wal-Mart in Illinois. It doesn't just appear there through magic. People who are used to downloading music off the internet forget that distribution costs are a major factor in CD price, and they don't realize there is no way for our industry to escape this cost. The cost of physical distribution must be passed onto the purchaser. If anyone reading this can come up with some magical way to distribute music from California to Illinois for free, I'd like to hear it. Maybe this is possible in fantasyland, but definitely not here in reality.

Secondly, consumers need to realize that for every CD that is a hit, there are 99 others that lose money for the label. Studio time, promotion costs, professional sound mixers, carbonated beverages in the break room, these all cost REAL MONEY. This is real money that must come out of a label's pocket. Every record produced is a gamble. There is no guarantee that a band that is produced and promoted will sell. If a label ends up losing $20 million promoting a band that doesn't sell, it is the responsibility of the consumer to reimburse the label for that $20 million. Note, it was the CONSUMER who refused to buy the CD that the label spent money promoting, therefore the burden rests squarely with the CONSUMER to make up that lost money for the label. It's basic economic principles like these that are missed by many of the uninformed downloaders out there.

Thirdly, many consumers don't realize that a big part of music promotion is radio play. No song gets onto a Clear Channel or CBS owned top 40 station these days that isn't paid for. Since it is illegal for a record label to pay a radio station to play a song, the label must pay upwards of $300,000 to an independent music promoter who in turn pays the radio station to play the song. Yes, you read that right: It costs more than $300,000 for one song to be added to the playlist of one top 40 station for three months. You do the math. Since a label paying a radio station to play a song is considered illegal payola, a middleman must be involved who raises the label's costs. If you listen to a song on the radio, you the consumer are morally obligated to pay the label back for the radio play that song received. If consumers don't pay the label for the top 40 songs they listen to, then the label can't pay the independent music promoters, who can't pay the top 40 radio stations to play that label's songs, and therefore that label's songs will never become top 40 hits. The result of this chain of events, if it ever were to become widespread, would be dead air, or worse, a return to independently owned radio stations with local DJs deciding what to play. In short, chaos. You wouldn't be hearing the same playlist in Atlanta that you heard in Oklahoma City. A cross-country drive would become a confusing nightmare as a barrage of different DJs, unrecognized songs and unclassifiable genres spews from your speakers. It's a terrifying vision that I have often lost sleep over. Most car radios only have 5 buttons, which these days is more than most people need. If the kind of chaos I described comes to pass, drivers will have to revert to turning a dial or pressing the scan button dozens of times to wade through their myriad choices, and the result would be more car accidents. Refusing to buy CDs will COST LIVES in the end, plain and simple.

Myth #2 - The Recording Industry Cheats Artists

I hear this myth from generation X and Y a lot, and every time I do it pains me deeply. It seems that due to programs such as VH1's Behind the Music, where past-their-prime musicians gripe about not owning or profiting from their catalog of work or still being in debt to the studio after going multi-platinum four times, people think it's OK to rip off the music industry as we're all nothing but greedy, heartless bastards. What these programs fail to make clear is that when a band signs a contract with a record label and that label in return gives them studio time, buys them radio promotion, produces a music video for their good song, pays MTV to play the video for that song, and then pays a songwriter to produce 15 more tracks of filler for the CD, a band finds themselves in debt for tens of millions of dollars to the label. The money for all of this must be recuperated from the band's percentage of the profit from CD sales, and then again from the consumers, and then again from the royalties as the song is used in commercials, television shows and movies for the next 70 years until the copyright expires. It takes most bands five sequential hit albums just to break even after all of this. If a band can't cut it, should the studio have to take a loss on all the money they pumped into that band? That doesn't seem fair.

When you download a Jimmy K song for free, you are in effect stealing money from that artist's pocket. If Jimmy K doesn't make any money from his good song, then how is he supposed to pay the record label back for investing in and digitally enhancing his talent? He can't. The record label must then place a lien on his home and all of his other assets to recoup some of the money it lost, which usually doesn't come anywhere close. And so it must also raise the CD prices of the bands that do sell. A Brittney Spears CD is carrying the weight of 99 others that failed to reach its level of cultural influence and popularity. It is also carrying the price tag of the litigation costs the RIAA must incur when it sues the services through which the Jimmy K song was downloaded. Is this fair to Brittney Spears? It may not seem so at first, but remember that if the studio goes bankrupt because of Jimmy K, it won't be able to produce follow-up CDs and remixes of Brittney's work, and then not only will she lose out as she falls short of paying back the studio for her success, but America loses as well. If this were to happen to lots of labels, all that would be left for music fans to listen to would be unpolished, unenhanced, self-written works by independent artists who play their own instruments and sing with their own voices. Do we really want to take a step back into those dark ages? Self-written music tends to be introspective and depressing.

Many people don't realize that it is actually modern computers running high-powered software that devises the lyrics to hits like "Shake Baby Jump". This software is not cheap, and again, that cost must be passed onto you, and to the artist, and to anyone who wants to use "Shake Baby Jump" for the next 70 years. If you can think of a way to get high priced, high-powered software for free, I'd like to hear it. Maybe in fantasyland, but definitely not here in reality.

Myth #3 - The Recording Industry Can't Stop Free Downloading

I think we proved with our lawsuit against Napster that we can stop MP3 trading on the Internet. Our subsequent lawsuits against Kazaa, Morpheus, and Aimster also proved this. Our most recent successful lawsuit against Audiogalaxy proved this yet again. Our upcoming lawsuits against Grokster, Limewire and Bearshare will also prove this. Once we think of a way to sue Blubster we'll sue them too. All of this litigation is expensive and is just making the prices of CDs higher. Downloaders, you are just making it worse for yourselves. Once the RIAA has stomped out file trading on the Internet and a CD costs $35, it'll be a well-deserved hangover from your free music binge, and you better believe you're going to regret it. Music isn't some excess luxury people can do without; it's as essential to human existence as water and toilet paper.

As part of our newly announced War On Consumers, we are also introducing progressive legislation into Congress which would allow us to prosecute individuals for music downloading. It will also allow us to disrupt peer-to-peer networks and damage computer hard drives that contain MP3 files. All this hacking is going to be expensive, and as always we're going to have to recuperate the cost from you. There is hardly a group in the world today with more tech savvy than the RIAA, as file swappers are about to learn. Our bill, when passed, will also declare the RIAA as part of the nation's infrastructure, and as such it will be entitled to a portion of revenue received from federal income tax. This way we can guarantee that our member labels receive at least some royalties from unauthorized singing and humming of copyrighted works by individuals. This practice is more widespread than you think, and is nothing short of intellectual property theft. Our bill will also make it a crime for individuals to sell used CDs. National used music chains such as Cheapo are leaches that profit off the works of others, and as such they are just as evil as Napster and its ilk. Under our new act, a CD will not be "bought" but instead "licensed" just like a copy of Microsoft Windows, and as such our labels will be able to use their CDs as a much-needed leash on consumer behavior. Consumers will not be paying for the CD, but for the right to listen to it, and that right may be modified or revoked at any time for any reason without notice.

Now that several congressmen are on our payroll, we can sit back and watch the illegal music market wither and dry up just like the illegal drug market did in the 1980s.

Myth #4 - The RIAA Refuses to Adapt to New Technology

If when all said and done, our market research shows that kids don't want CDs anymore, we can compromise on that. The music industry is all about change. We changed from 45s to 78s to 33s, to 8-track to cassettes to CDs. We're nothing if not adaptable. If public sentiment is absolutely set on an alternative to CDs, I suggest the minidisk format. They are smaller, they hold just as much music as a traditional CD, and they cost about the same. Plus they have the added benefits of digital watermarks and copy protection, and the minidisk specification is completely owned by Sony, an RIAA member. I said in 1997 that the future of the music industry was in minidisk, and I am still receiving money to say it today.

RIAA-supported digital music efforts may also take off in the future. Currently an RIAA-backed online service known as Pressplay allows users to subscribe for $18.95 a month to a small library of popular works and listen to them via half-quality audio streams if they have broadband connections. Users may download 10 songs a month to burn to CDs if they wish. Pressplay exclusively supports the Windows Media Audio format, and therefore each song benefits from active scripting support, expiration dates, copy protection and proven Microsoft security. With embedded scripts, each song can also enhance the user experience by opening web pages featuring more music they might like to buy. After only 8 months online and a strategic partnership with AOL, Pressplay currently boasts more than 100 subscribers and is growing every day.

We in the RIAA know that the future isn't coming, it's here already. We have already taken steps to quietly introduce copy protection into music CDs. Protected CDs have a broken track on the outer edge, and therefore cannot be read by computer CD-ROM drives, and can even crash a Macintosh computer upon insertion. Technically these are not CDs as they do not conform to the Phillips Compact Disk specification, they are Enhanced Music Disks. These Enhanced Music Disks can only be played in audio CD players, and thankfully it is impossible to copy music from a stereo system to a computer hard drive. Drawing a line with a magic marker over the broken track to circumvent the protection and allow the CD to be played in computer CD drives would be a clear violation of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act and would be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, if anyone were ever brazen enough to attempt it. We know that someday a hacker or terrorist group will figure out a way to rip copyrighted songs into the MP3 format and distribute them for free, but we'll already be one step ahead of them as Congress and Microsoft both work to mandate hardware copyright protection built into all computers and portable devices. Once in place, no computer will be able to play or distribute any content that is not approved by the Content Bureau, currently being formed by key members of the Bush Administration, Microsoft, myself, and the Concerned Christian Parents United (CCPU).

Indeed, present times may be bleak, but the future is looking brighter every day. The War On Consumers is just beginning, and when it's over, artists will be able to breathe a sigh of relief and bask in the kind of freedom that can only be realized through complete corporate control of the distribution of their works, backed up by the power and influence of the US government. Tight, centralized control of ideas and art has never been attempted before in human history, but from where I stand it is long overdue. Consumers have grown fat with their greed, sitting on piles of money that rightfully belong to the recording industry. It's time to redistribute the wealth. The revolution is nigh.


Hillary Rosen
President, Recording Industry Association of America

from division2.com http://www.divisiontwo.com/articles/roseletter.htm

It was kind of written for a joke, but I thought it was worth posting.

RJ5500
January 11th, 2003, 11:59 PM
interesting letter.

Lol, I liked the part where she clearly labeled the "War On Consumers". That'll get the RIAA a lot of support. :black

Ken17625
January 12th, 2003, 12:16 AM
Myth #1 - CDs are overpriced at $16.99.


Fact: Consumers now decide the price of CDs(Whatever that may be). Why? Simple, P2P.

Fact: Lower the price to levels accepted by the consumer or lose money.


The RIAA has no say in the matter. The people decide if they make money or not.

cpugeniusmv
January 12th, 2003, 12:43 AM
I think we proved with our lawsuit against Napster that we can stop MP3 trading on the Internet.


hmm, is that why i'm still trading mp3's?

Krell
January 12th, 2003, 01:02 AM
Well I was dozing off 1/2 way thru this as I thought she must have had scorchie help her write this. I was shocked to learn that the recording industry is SUFFERING due to my negligence as a CONSUMER to buy over priced CRAP.

I am also at fault for killing people by not buying this CRAP. Only god knows how many people I have killed thus far, I am currently trying to comprehend the totallity of it all.

I am also to blame for not compensating them when their state of the art Random Lyrics Generators are not successful in producing a top 40 hit:
http://www.leonatkinson.com/random/index.php3?SCREEN=lyrics
and
http://www.outofservice.com/country/

and the highly sophisticated
http://teenmusic.about.com/library/bname/blbname.htm

After single handedly driving CD prices to $35, I will then not be able to afford the toilet paper for the music I do not buy. They and the congressmen on their payroll will then watch me meander the streets as a hapless addict... unable to get my illegal music fixes.

Subsequently, in my desperation, I intend to use a black magic marker in a brazen attempt to HACK the music off of a piece of plastic, in a brazen violation of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act.

I confess, I have grown fat with my greed, sitting on piles of money that rightfully belong to the recording industry. I am guilty of taking away money from Brittney Spears, forcing her to write her own music, and hurling us one step closer to the dark ages.

Only thru the tight centralized control of ideas can we be saved.

Resistance is futile

1984

tackdaddy
January 12th, 2003, 02:08 AM
after what krell said i really can't think of anything more original or funnier then the way he put i,nice response krell.

serrebi101
January 12th, 2003, 02:13 AM
Heres a few clues for you guys, I believe this letre is fake

I don't know about you, but I think this letre is fake.
RIAA-supported digital music efforts may also take off in the future. Currently an RIAA-backed online service known as Pressplay allows users to subscribe
for $18.95 a month to a small library of popular works and listen to them via half-quality audio streams if they have broadband connections. Users may
download 10 songs a month to burn to CDs if they wish. Pressplay exclusively supports the Windows Media Audio format, and therefore each song benefits
from active scripting support, expiration dates, copy protection and proven Microsoft security. With embedded scripts, each song can also enhance the user
experience by opening web pages featuring more music they might like to buy. After only 8 months online and a strategic partnership with AOL, Pressplay
currently boasts more than 100 subscribers and is growing every day.
do I dere say it? I didn't realize this was a joke, lol I'm so gulible, and am gonna just post this because of my stupidity, but lol, it was pretty convincing, until I red the pressplay parte, 100 subscribers, more like 0.
It was kind of written for a joke, but I thought it was worth posting.

Krell
January 12th, 2003, 02:26 AM
Listen people, when you have shit for a root domain like this ...

http://www.divisiontwo.com

. . .It's tough to envision real validity, however, we WANT to hate Hillary Rosen. She is the Jabba The Hutt of the RIAA.

btw . .. if you like seanbaby and somethingawful, you will like these articles. I accidently posted the link to kelly's world in this thread, and after a near heart attack, I editted it out.
sorry hunter

tipsterno1
January 12th, 2003, 04:42 AM
The RIAA will never stop filesharing over the net. They must realise that, just when they stop 1 p2p another 1 pops up? lol
As for shutting down Blubster whats that gonna do? Does anybody actually use it lol lol

HansG
January 12th, 2003, 04:55 AM
Secondly, consumers need to realize that for every CD that is a hit, there are 99 others that lose money for the label. Note, it was the CONSUMER who refused to buy the CD that the label spent money promoting, therefore the burden rests squarely with the CONSUMER to make up that lost money for the label. It's basic economic principles like these that are missed by many of the uninformed downloaders out there. Name one company who agrees with the above statement. "Ohhh, my company went bankrupt, because the consumers didn't want to buy my products. The burden therefore rests squarely with the consumer, which is why I am going to sue all the consumers to reclaim the money they refused to pay me!"

Jesus you'd think they'd hire someone who has actually studied economics before they allow her to speak.

Christoph
January 12th, 2003, 05:35 AM
the first 2 myth are ok! I mean they try to Xplain there problems and I realy buy CDs all month(and make a RIP)!
but the third myth " - The Recording Industry Can't Stop Free Downloading "
is realy a big mistake! If they realy close BLUBSTER/PIOLET I swore that some ppl will be very vry angry!
also they can't

skunnk1
January 12th, 2003, 06:02 AM
:black

Just for the record guys, the letter is satirical. When I first read the letter I, myself thought it was real until I visited the homepage of the site that posted. If I post something I will tell you if It's real or not. I have no intention of decieving anybody.
Sometimes it's good to read these stories for enterainment, because it gives us fresh new perspective on ways we can see things, and make our enemies more laughable (kind of like those Looney Tunes that they played for the troops during WWII)

skunnk1
January 12th, 2003, 06:16 AM
Metallica Gears Up for New Fight Against Underage Drinking and Loud Music



Earlier this week, former band Metallica won its highly popular fight against Napster Inc., and secured a financially prosperous future for embattled major record labels, at least for the time being. With that victory behind them, Metallica is moving beyond defending the rights of multi-national corporations, and is gearing up for its fight against what it terms other "societal detriments," such as underage drinking and loud music.

Lars Ulrich, Metallica's drummer and moral compass, said late Wednesday that now that the Compact Disk format was secure for future generations and that record labels' 92% royalties on CD sales were no longer in jeopardy, he and the band had been "looking into other areas of society that need Metallica's help," and has now settled on a deal with the American Association of Retired Persons (AARP) to combat "youthful vileness and disregard for law."

Proving that the band's new cause has more to do with action than mere Puritanical rhetoric, band members and AARP lawyers showed up at the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco & Firearms (ATF) headquarters in Washington, D.C., early Thursday morning with a box containing the names of 335,000 underage college students. Metallica claims that each of the students listed has illegally purchased alcohol from liquor stores via the use of fake IDs created on the Internet. The names were gathered by AARP volunteers and Lars Ulrich himself during numerous covert visits to major university campuses during the past month.

In addition, Metallica is also in the process of collecting the names of teenagers who may be playing Metallica's music too loudly or at too late an hour. AARP members are encouraged to submit the names of any local hooligans who may be disturbing the peace in neighborhoods across the country. "This kind of abuse of Metallica's music has to stop," the band said at its Wednesday press conference. "This band has a zero-tolerance policy for rowdiness."

Many former Metallica fans have admitted to feeling hurt and alienated by the band's new image as cyber-narcs and tattle-tales. "I don't know what the hell they're doing," one fan recently posted on a Metallica message board. "They haven't been the same ever since they were executed by the government and replaced with animatronic robots." Similar analyses have been offered by many other fans, but Metallica's representatives have staunchly denied that the mid-April execution and subsequent replacement of the band's members has had anything to do with their newfound moral integrity.

Some journalists were speaking out about the band as early as last week when the Napster suit was announced, calling Metallica hypocrites for rallying against the free trade of digital music. Many noted that a sudden anti-piracy stance is dubious in light of the fact that the band used to encourage its fans to make bootleg tapes of its concerts and circulate the copies amongst themselves illegally. Faced with this alleged hypocrisy, Metallica drummer Lars Ulrich told divisiontwo reporter Cal Sindel, "I don't know exactly what hypocrisy these supposed 'journalists' are referring to. Do you have their names?" He went on to point out that "Metallica has always been a law-abiding easy-listing Christian-rock band and will always be a law-abiding easy-listing Christian-rock band. Anyone who says or prints anything to the contrary will be receiving a letter from our attorneys."

"I don't know if Metallica's new efforts to combat underage drinking will be as successful as their fight against the MP3 format and the free trade of music," said Howard King, the Los Angeles attorney who represents Metallica. "But it certainly is going to show unruly teenagers that aging hair bands aren't going stand by and do nothing while some of the more arcane laws of this country are trampled." King is also the attorney representing rapper Dr. Dre in the artist's suit against a group of inner-city teens who stand accused of smoking pot at one of his concerts.

As the legal battles play out in court and more and more artists are likely to be executed and replaced with morally superior animatronic copies, some journalists who fear their own replacement have sided with Metallica. Minneapolis Star Tribune columnist Syl Jones recently wrote in an editorial, "Right now we need a band like Metallica to stand up for the rights of record labels who are otherwise defenseless. Without the support of Metallica, Virgin Records, EMI, AOL-Time-Warner and many, many other labels who are currently enduring record-breaking CD sales wouldn't have the time or the financial resources to snoop through teenagers' personal computers and sue them for breaking copyright laws."

And Metallica isn't likely to rest anytime soon. Rumors are already circulating within the industry that the band is considering possible legal action both against people who illegally remove the certification tags from their pillows and against groups of teenagers who linger for a little too long on the sidewalk.

http://www.divisiontwo.com/articles/newsburst2.htm

overdo
January 12th, 2003, 06:26 AM
lol these are gd.


thankfully it is impossible to copy music from a stereo system to a computer hard drive
hahah yeah they probably believe that too. thx sony for the nice optical output cable u insist on putting on all ur products:wings

method77
January 12th, 2003, 08:10 AM
Originally posted by skunnk1
Downloaders, you are just making it worse for yourselves. Once the RIAA has stomped out file trading on the Internet and a CD costs $35, it'll be a well-deserved hangover from your free music binge, and you better believe you're going to regret it. I am soooo frightened!! I am stopping trading RIGHT NOW! I'll never download again!

iq214
January 12th, 2003, 09:09 AM
I cant believe ANYONE thought this was a real letter from Hilary, atleast not after reading it. But I must say it is very funny and insightfull, very well written!

d-koolest
January 12th, 2003, 09:11 AM
I like the part where she says

"Every record produced is a gamble. There is no guarantee that a band that is produced and promoted will sell. If a label ends up losing $20 million promoting a band that doesn't sell, it is the responsibility of the consumer to reimburse the label for that $20 million. Note, it was the CONSUMER who refused to buy the CD that the label spent money promoting, therefore the burden rests squarely with the CONSUMER to make up that lost money for the label."

Now that makes so much sense to me....NOT!!!

Why should people make up for a label's mistakes? Y'know, if they weren't reimbersed, they might pick better bands more of the time.

P.S. there might be other funny stuff in the letter but I stopped reading there 'cause I got bored, it's obvious CR@P.:fire

BadAttitude1964
January 12th, 2003, 09:13 AM
well being a truck driver, they pay about $ 1.00 a mile for this hmm, I wonder how many cd,s they call haul for that, about 2100 miles.. truck can haul about 44,000 pounds. so that is alot of cd,s