Big thumbs up to the mods

[phalkon30]

This has been said in other threads in the past, but I thought I would bring it up again

I am very happy with the mods here, and the additions to the mod list were a great idea, the site is much better regulated, and I think it takes a huge load off of seph, I felt bad that he was virtually the only active mod for a while, its also nice to see that even with that many personalitys, there haven't been any clashes about what should and shouldnt be done

One thing I thought I would bring up, is something I have noticed over time, the people that are flaming mods for excessive deleting or editing, tend to be newer members, even at my high post count, I'm still learning what styles of regulation work well on this board

I think that until a user has been here for a few months (of solid reading, or posting, not idle time), or until they have reached a few hundred posts, that they should not be taken so seriously by the mods, they just don't have the knowledge to know how to run this place (no matter what their P2P skill level is), suggestions are great to look at, but flames aren't

Sorry for the last part there, I've just had to get that out for a while, I hope I dont get flamed for my opinion, but there are certain un-named people here that have recently been flaming mods over things that they have no experience in dealing with

Overall, keep up the great work mods, I appreciate the work you do, and I'm sure most of the other users do to :)

(One last thing, I promise this time, I added a poll, it won't be in any way definative, or conclusive on anything, I'm just curious)

[12345678910]

I couldn't agree with you more. I am glad you posted this here because I believe it should be portayed to some of the newer members to see.

If they think that are going to "run a muck" and ruin everything we have done for this community, then they will get a rude awakening.

Every new member was put into his place at one time or another (even me), until he or she reached a level in which was appreciated by the other members.

I hope I have reached that mark and I am viewed as one of "the gang" as I am reaching 300 posts and have contributed much, I hope, and have learned tremendoulsy from my fellow ZeroPaid members.

The new members give the site a different feel and it doesn't feel good. But, I trust the mods as they do an awesome job as it is and will continue to do a great job in the future. I beleive I have read in another thread that even IPs were being banned for some select few. I don't wish this to turn into UTC, but do whatever you have to do to keep this place in an orderally fashion.

Thanks,
12345678910

[cheapprick]

I want to chime in too.

Seph and the new mods are keeping the site looking very clean, without coming across in a iron-fisted sort of way.

Congrats to all of you!

[tackdaddy]

i think they do a great job,they keep things under control.i think they deserve a little praise for the good job they do.

[crackerjacker]

yeah these mods have been long time members, and they are doing a good job.

[MoonMan]

Originally posted by phalkon30
I think that until a user has been here for a few months (of solid reading, or posting, not idle time), or until they have reached a few hundred posts, that they should not be taken so seriously by the mods, they just don't have the knowledge to know how to run this place (no matter what their P2P skill level is), suggestions are great to look at, but flames aren't


I agree with what you say up to that point. There are alot of decent posters here who only come out for certain questions or topics.. otherwise they are just reading.

Also, post count doesn't always equal intelligence or maturity so I don't think it should be measured that way.

Good post otherwise! And I would like to add in that the new mods and Seph are doing a great job without being heavy handed.

[Sockfulloflove]

yes, great job to all the mods! and keep it up!

[Tremaine]

ya i like all the mods here pretty much most of them are cool people. I dunno why but ive always liked zeropaid more than all the other filesharing communites it has a more attractive feel, i even like it more than slyck.

[phalkon30]

Moon, I knew I would strike up some conrtoversy when I posted that, last night at about 2AM, I had a good way to say it, I completely forgot how I had it worded when I posted this

Yes, that was a generalization, but all I meant by it, was that most of the posters flaming mods, were generally noobs to ZP, I just think it takes a few months to fully appreciate what the mods do here, and how they do it

BTW, someting that does back up what you said moonman, is 12345678910, if he had 20 posts, I would still consider him "one of the gang" in a lot of ways, he posts good info, basicly quality not quantity, but it took him a little while to get there, he just needed to "mature" to zp or whatever you want to call it

[12345678910]

Originally posted by phalkon30
BTW, someting that does back up what you said moonman, is 12345678910, if he had 20 posts, I would still consider him "one of the gang" in a lot of ways, he posts good info, basicly quality not quantity, but it took him a little while to get there, he just needed to "mature" to zp or whatever you want to call it

Thanks man. That means a lot.

Whenever I hear this poem on the Chevrolet commercial, I think of ZeroPaid.

"Nobody Knows It But Me"

There's a place that I travel
When I want to roam,
And nobody knows it but me

The roads don't go there
And the signs stay home
And nobody knows it but me

It's far far away
And way way afar
It's over the moon and the sea

And wherever you're going
That's wherever you are
And nobody knows it but me

Patrick O'Leary

I don't know why I like this poem so much, but it just seems to stick in my head. Whenever I read it; it reminds me of this community.

ZeroPaid is a place where I can come to get away from school, homework and family and just enjoy the people who I read and learn so much from.

Thank You All,
12345678910

[Ken17625]

I think the new mods that were added a few weeks(week?) back are a great choice. Overall, this is a better community with them.

[MoonMan]

Originally posted by Zero Pain
Some of the mods are ok then there are others, who just cant seem to find the word moderate in websters dictionary! Like Sephiroth for example, and btw Sephiroth you accused me of being a kiss arse? Nah never, ever in your wildest fantasy, do me a favor though if your not going to let people flame fine! Just make the law equal for all no FUCKING EXCEPTIONS!

I still think you should look the word up, then again the word objective is used, so I guess you will have to look that word up as WELL RIGHT!


btw: kiss -asses make me sick

have a nice day:shy

Get over it already, that is all you have done since your start here is bitch and moan about Sephiroth. Maybe if you just settled down a bit and LET TRIVIAL THINGS GO then you would have a better time here.

Relax, otherwise you are going to get booted in the face in every thread you enter with the "I'm so damn special because a mod has it out for me" attitude.

Take what I said anyway you like, but do realise this wasn't a flame.

[phalkon30]

Seph is an excelent mod, without his help in the past, zp would be nothing, or at least not as good as it is now

He has kept the swearing down, and also most of the content out that we cannot have here, which I'm sure has helped ZP not get in trouble

That kind of comment is exactly what I was talking about, you just have seph, frankly I haven't seen a good reason to, and think seph was justified in everything he has done to deal with you

You are one of the few that will most likely never grow up here

[nasrules]

98% of the time i agree with them. theyre doing a great job......its jus me thats awkward!

[overdo]

all the ppl here are great, but like 12345678910 said :
Every new member was put into his place at one time or another (even me), until he or she reached a level in which was appreciated by the other members.

ppl have just gotta realise that, i certainly do.

[Sephiroth]

Well thanks everyone.

The forums have gotten pretty big so more problems do come up. The new moderatos have been great and have helped out alot.

I think that as long as newer people dont start spamming and doesnt post messages like this was AOL Chat or something then they will fine.


Originally posted by Zero Pain

I still think you should look the word up, then again the word objective is used, so I guess you will have to look that word up as WELL RIGHT!


Oh not please dont flame my grammar skills anything but my grammer you son of a bitch...

I didnt create your little reputation, or actions here flaming, trolling, posting warez, harassing people, and having a quote from a notorious nazi as your signature you did.. And you will be held responisble for your actions because people do notice and posting a few AV posts isnt going to change much just like changing forums or names does not give you a clean slate..

If you dont like then the only person you can blame is yourself because you created it all and so blaming me and the other moderators on any forum for what you do doesnt change anything.

[Krell]

Hey sephiroth, appearantly zero pain feels you are not just, I somehow hide behind you with my tender affectionate personality, and many of us are kiss-asses !! woooo

You want to further clue him in?

For the record, I have never had a single conversation with sephiroth, about anything, ever. And, as a matter of fact, we have never exchanged more then 2 consecutives posts on anything, ever. I know nothing about sephiroth, at all. He set's a good example, and I think he does a fine job too.

Having said that, I stated recently elsewhere that I appreciate the mods. I believe that the balance and appearance of cooperation trickles down thru the rest of the forum. Leadership thru example is a tough policy to find complaint with.

For reasonable people.

[chipperrox]

I agree, the mods here do a fine job even though they have to deal regularly with aholes like zeropain(from what ive seen, he posts more useless stuff than i did) jusplayin, but props to the moderators, not too tight-- not too loose

[Crazy Horse]

Many thanks to many friends and thanx for your votes of confidence. It would be even better if this "job" wasn't even required.
A humble servant around here.

[Sephiroth]

You mean this (http://www.zeropaid.com/bbs/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5947) thread thats still there..

I suggest you quit trolling against krell or anyone else before my little warning becomes reality.. Ill tell you what if you want be too ill just you the "krell bites" treatment.

[12345678910]

Originally posted by Zero Pain
Yea whatever bubba you have made it clear its your forum. Do whatever you want! No ones stopping you, if you want to make threats fine, if you dont like my sig fine, as an individual Im going to do what I want. Simple actually, I dont care, if you have such an itch to ban me Its your forum! Regardless your interested in my posts because every time= your there in 2 seconds flat.

Then again, you can always be bored, bored bored, Im not! Do I care if you are? Nah just move on, unless im interesting to you.
Apparently I am, Well I hope you like my new sig.

I wish I could keep you interested tonight! But your gonna sick the big bad troll on me! Hot damn I ran out of donuts, kinda like anything I EVER want to say to the troll...................I dont mind feeding from time to time, Unfortunately I have a sick dog on my hands!.............just leave the troll alone he's probably still helping the guy with that bin file problem(those are toughies you know)

Well enjoy your evening, Im out of food so THERE!

Now I see why you were banned from many forums in the past.

Sephiroth : Give him the "krell bites" treatment. I'm sure he won't stay around too much longer after that.

Peace,
12345678910

[CCSDUDE]

"Everyone is allowed to flame and insult just you Zero Pain but your still not allowed to flame them and any retaliation of any kind will be subject to the forum rules and conquences."

Notice how none of us have taken Seph up on this....yet?

Kinda shows you *ZeroPain* what we're all about on ZP....

I suggest you drop the "I'm innocent, why are you mean people flaming me!" bullshit and either stay or go....either way it doesn't matter.

Also, all the new mod's as well as Seph have been doing a kick ass job lately, before it was outta control for a day or so but they stepped in and shut that shit down.

Soooo keep up the good work, ZP is starting to feel like it did in September again.

[12345678910]

Originally posted by CCSDUDE
ZP is starting to feel like it did in September again.

You notice that too?

The anticipation to hurry up and get home from school to read what you all have typed has always been there though. I think I am addicted to this place....

Peace,
12345678910

:fire :fire :fire

[MoonMan]

Originally posted by Zero Pain
Your about to find that out and you aint gonna like it!


Too funny, what exactly are you gonna do? Create a new account and make rude comments to us all?

I don't think I will be able to sleep at night for fear that the big bad Zero Pain might get me :devil

[phalkon30]

Originally posted by MoonMan
Too funny, what exactly are you gonna do? Create a new account and make rude comments to us all?

I don't think I will be able to sleep at night for fear that the big bad Zero Pain might get me :devil

lmao, I go to sleep for 5hrs, and look what happens when I'm gone....

CCS, I noticed that this place doesnt feel the same anymore also, when I first came here, I was able to help people, and I was excited to come home and check my mail to see if I could help somebody else

Now, I come home, and its like "yay.....you have 25 messages....", its almost a chore to check my zp mail now, mainly because every thread I try to help in, Zerobrain starts shit and takes the thread miles off topic

Hmm, this thread is sortof ironic, with the original topic, and now flame wars, lol

[Crazy Horse]

This guy sounds like my ex - ALWAYS has to get the last word in - no matter how stupid it is.... Hey wait a minute ! Brenda?!?!?!

[Ken17625]

This guy sounds like my ex - ALWAYS has to get the last word in - no matter how stupid it is.... Hey wait a minute ! Brenda?!?!?!

Heheheh. That was funny.

[RJ5500]

It's good the way the mods keep the flaming to a minimum around here on ZP. I've been on forums which the flaming and rudeness was so bad, it totally brought down the whole community.


Although, so of the new posters that come just to "know it all" about something and flame people can end up being quite funny.

:blah

Some of the smileys on this board are cool too.

[mojo-ris-in]

:devil Guys does it seem to me that you all are just encouraging this jerkwad? If you want him to go away the best bet is to ignore him. Eventually he'll get bored and go back to trying to impress people with his vocabulary skills on some other forum.

BTW the new mods are great. They handle themselves with great maturity and fairness and we should all strive to follow their example.....Peace!

[blady]

Zerpaid mods?

I posted a warning that "Piolet" sends UDP datagrams to two MPAA IP addresses, and Zeropaid changed my post to this:
_______________
blady | January 8, 2003 6:35am | u..cable.mindspring.com | Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; Q312461; .NET CLR 1.0.3705)

I am half ape. I can even shave my own ass in the dark. What happens when you eat lead paint chips on a daily basis?
_______________
I messaged them twice, and they never changed this post. So hundreds of people are using Piolet, and signalling to the MPAA that they are doing so.

When you're really out on a limb using serious spyware, the mods won't be there to help you.

[The Hunter]

I have no idea what you are talking about, as I recieved no message from you.

[skunnk1]

Keep up the great work!!! I'm addicted to this site!

[blady]

re:
_________
blady | January 8, 2003 6:35am | u..cable.mindspring.com | Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; Q312461; .NET CLR 1.0.3705)

I am half ape. I can even shave my own ass in the dark. What happens when you eat lead paint chips on a daily basis?
________

well, then you have to read your messages! the safety of hundreds of readers depends on it.

[MoonMan]

It isn't the mods.. I am pretty certain (suspected it a few hours ago) that a certain someone(s) are hacking the site (again?). For some reason the news section where you can post comments is an easy target for reasons unknown (lots of security holes?).

Someone should PM Jorge about it. The last person who was found hacking the site was banned.. but I dunno if it's him.

Let it be known though blady, it was almost certainly not anyone who monitors the forums.

[MoonMan]

I find it EXTREMELY interesting that comments that are a tad negative about Piolet are being deleted...

These are not under the regular comments. They were deleted. Just hit "View all comments" at the bottom of a story to see them.

[iq214]

Well this place has its little sercret censorship thing going with mods silently deleting posts as they find fit and having their lil agenda, and the 14 yr olds,the asskissers and the runalongs are having a ball playing inner circle, but all thats just what I expect from any congregation of humans. However, afterall, and that may aswell be because of the standard of the alternatives rather than because of the mods and users here, the site is still preferable to the alternatives.

[GTA]

Zeropain makes my post look really good. He makes SupremeBeing look really good.
Also Mods you have been doing a good job. To bad you have members like Zeropain to make your job harder. But atleast it gives you somthing to do.

[The Hunter]

blady, I do read my messages, but I cant read what I dont get. Also I am not perfect, and can make mistakes, but I spend a heck of a lot of time here doing the best I can.

[lion7718]

Shit happens...can't blame The Hunter

[cheapprick]

If it makes anyone feel any better, I noticed that some of my comments in the news section were gone as well. They weren't removed in the way that the news mods can do it, they were totally gone. They didn't even show up in "View all comments".

edit I found the comment you are talking about Blady, it was changed in the way the news mods change them. However, I can't think of a news mod who would. I'll change it back for you, if that's agreeable to you.

[The Hunter]

Originally posted by cheapprick
If it makes anyone feel any better, I noticed that some of my comments in the news section were gone as well. They weren't removed in the way that the news mods can do it, they were totally gone. They didn't even show up in "View all comments".
Did you PM Jorge about it?

[CrAzYMaNiAk54]

THe mods are ok... sometimes they can piss me off(they know who they are) but hey.. they have to keep this place clean so i understand that =)

[CCSDUDE]

He's a bit pissed at Seph for closing all his Shareaza advertising threads....

Hunter's been doing most of the modding along side Seph, don't think I've seen any modding from Rickio/Gor/Crazyhorse.

But I'm sure once they do start getting down to business they'll do an excellent job. :wings

*completely off topic and useless*

I like my new avatar....she likes to stab stuff. ; )

[phalkon30]

Originally posted by CCSDUDE
I like my new avatar....she likes to stab stuff. ; )

Hmmm, if I didn't know you were a guy, I'd guess you were a woman with PMS, because thats what your avatar looks like

That is sort of disturbing that things are being deleted, could the RIAA be getting back at us for hacking their site :)

[Crazy Horse]

Hunter's been doing most of the modding along side Seph, don't think I've seen any modding from Rickio/Gor/Crazyhorse.

I've got my hands dirty a few times already. I try to stay low key but sometimes you just have to step in. I wish there was no need for mods but when you have people that can't control themselves or show total contempt and no respect (I won't mention any names) you can rest assured that I will and have stepped in.

[The Hunter]

Right on CH, we all work together. Also I am glad to see all the new Mods here, at many times it is the things you dont see, that make this place a run a bit smoother.

[Rickio]

Originally posted by CCSDUDE
He's a bit pissed at Seph for closing all his Shareaza advertising threads....

Hunter's been doing most of the modding along side Seph, don't think I've seen any modding from Rickio/Gor/Crazyhorse.

But I'm sure once they do start getting down to business they'll do an excellent job. :wings

*completely off topic and useless*

I like my new avatar....she likes to stab stuff. ; )

I'm here and just not posting or commenting as much.
I've even deleted threads some of the mods have commented in as I thought the thread was crap. hehehe ;-)

You like to be chastised before your deleted? I have learned to recognise that doesn't do much. But if you all want commentary I can do that as well...

peace!

[The Hunter]

Ricko, I learned that all it does for me is put a big target on my butt.

[Rickio]

Originally posted by The Hunter
Ricko, I learned that all it does for me is put a big target on my butt.

Yup I could figure that out. I don't mind anyones words but it 's such a waste of energy. :-)

peace

[Sephiroth]

Originally posted by CCSDUDE
He's a bit pissed at Seph for closing all his Shareaza advertising threads....


Hes pissed because he cant advertaise his site here..

Same thing with shareaza..

This forum is not their personal billboard and i dont appreicate people coming here just to advertaise other sites they have the option to buy ad space on this site but they arent going to exploit the forums for their own gains. Which ive explained this time over time again to fatboy slack or crazyman and he just doesnt get it..

Crazy Horse as long as there are anklebiters without adquete supervision then there will be a need for moderators... hehe

[phalkon30]

Remember this thread? I thought I'd bring it back and see how people feel the mods are doing right now, I'm curious, nothing more

BTW, some of the stuff I said in my first post on this thread, you can ignore, at the time it would have made more sense, the poll is what I'm looking at right now

And I still think that the mods are doing a great job, there's a lot of stressful crap going on lately, and they're handling it well

:fire :fire :fire :fire

[Undermind]

overall I think they do a good job, I would appreciate a little less of the "family site" feel, since p2p, in my mind, is not all that family friendly, I mean technically most of the stuff that goes on in the p2p world is illegal, other than that and a few other incidents I think they are doing what needs to be done

[phalkon30]

Originally posted by Undermind
I would appreciate a little less of the "family site" feel
Wow....thats a comment I've honestly never heard before, intresting

Frankly I like the family feel, if i need some help with something, I can think of quite a few people I could get instant help from on here by talking with them on messenger, and they're glad to help me, it also makes the site less geeky IMO

[MoonMan]

Originally posted by Undermind
overall I think they do a good job, I would appreciate a little less of the "family site" feel, since p2p, in my mind, is not all that family friendly, I mean technically most of the stuff that goes on in the p2p world is illegal, other than that and a few other incidents I think they are doing what needs to be done

I kinda of agree with you since Zeropaid has been losing its edge lately.. but then again there have been some real bastards who have come to intentionally hurt others.. so it's a tough call. Right now I agree with them holding tighter on matters.. but hopefully that can change as the assholes start to get bored of this place.

[Undermind]

Originally posted by phalkon30
Wow....thats a comment I've honestly never heard before, intresting

Frankly I like the family feel, if i need some help with something, I can think of quite a few people I could get instant help from on here by talking with them on messenger, and they're glad to help me, it also makes the site less geeky IMO


I think you misunderstood my point, when I say "family site" I mean like for kids and stuff, not like a tight-knit group thing that you're thinking of. I agree w/ what you are thinking of it's a good thing


Moonman:

yeah, it is a fine line, but it can be done, I don't think it is that difficult to pull off. You definitely have to set boundaries, but they shouldn't compromise the site in the process, I dunno, it's just how I feel, but like I said they're doing what needs to be done, I hope they can find a way to smooth things out

[Krell]

They dont get bored, they stay and keep dogging and detracting, and taking every little stab they can.

The way that Zero Paid will improve, is to continue to weed out these problems, which require the assistance of the members in conjunction with the mods.

It is not the intent or mission of this site to fascilitate these people in providing a forum for their dysfunction. I particitpate in a LOT of other sites, and I monitor other sites. Zero Paid is one of the angriest and least friendly sites I have seen.

When we have a population that can self regulate and get along, the mods will be less interactive. While we still are frequently attacked by persons who are not welcome here, and are essentially enemies of Zero Paid, then the mods have to be more firm.

Add to that the 1/2 dozen or so people here that are just 24/7 assholes, and always unhappy with everyone and everything, then the rest of our members end up paying for it. They poisen this site, and I am not at all tolerent of it.

If you dont like the tone or the management of this site then DO something about it. Do your part to cut down on the nonsense from these problem people.

While I have yet to address the site being "boring" lately, (publicly) I dont mind sacrificing edge for a little harmony and continuity.


or . . . . we can just bitch and attack all the time

[Undermind]

Originally posted by Krell
They dont get bored, they stay and keep dogging and detracting, and taking every little stab they can.

The way that Zero Paid will improve, is to continue to weed out these problems, which require the assistance of the members in conjunction with the mods.

It is not the intent or mission of this site to fascilitate these people in providing a forum for their dysfunction. I particitpate in a LOT of other sites, and I monitor other sites. Zero Paid is one of the angriest and least friendly sites I have seen.

When we have a population that can self regulate and get along, the mods will be less interactive. While we still are frequently attacked by persons who are not welcome here, and are essentially enemies of Zero Paid, then the mods have to be more firm.

Add to that the 1/2 dozen or so people here that are just 24/7 assholes, and always unhappy with everyone and everything, then the rest of our members end up paying for it. They poisen this site, and I am not at all tolerent of it.

If you dont like the tone or the management of this site then DO something about it. Do your part to cut down on the nonsense from these problem people.

While I have yet to address the site being "boring" lately, (publicly) I dont mind sacrificing edge for a little harmony and continuity.


or . . . . we can just bitch and attack all the time


First, let me say that I understand what you're saying

Second, that I never said this place was boring, but now that you mention it...

Third, WTH can we do to cut down on it, it's not like we can delete bogus posts, we can point 'em out, but they are usually spotted quickly anyway

Fourth, I was never aiming my comment toward the security of the site, I really don't know where the "edge" as you call it and the "security" cross paths, well maybe I can see it, or maybe what I'm picturing for this place is just not possible, who knows anymore

[Winphuk]

Originally posted by Undermind
overall I think they do a good job, I would appreciate a little less of the "family site" feel, since p2p, in my mind, is not all that family friendly, I mean technically most of the stuff that goes on in the p2p world is illegal, other than that and a few other incidents I think they are doing what needs to be done

It's the members who make the site what it is.
If you want an edgier site, start some edgy threads and some people will catch on.
I have been looking around on the other p2p sites and I find that on this one we are more up on News issues, then other p2p sites.
I also happen to like the funny threads where we can kick back and be stupid.My life is stressful enough. Anywhere I can get a laugh is fine with me.
I think the Mods are doing a primo job.

[Rickio]

Originally posted by Krell
They dont get bored, they stay and keep dogging and detracting, and taking every little stab they can.

The way that Zero Paid will improve, is to continue to weed out these problems, which require the assistance of the members in conjunction with the mods.

It is not the intent or mission of this site to fascilitate these people in providing a forum for their dysfunction. I particitpate in a LOT of other sites, and I monitor other sites. Zero Paid is one of the angriest and least friendly sites I have seen.

When we have a population that can self regulate and get along, the mods will be less interactive. While we still are frequently attacked by persons who are not welcome here, and are essentially enemies of Zero Paid, then the mods have to be more firm.

Add to that the 1/2 dozen or so people here that are just 24/7 assholes, and always unhappy with everyone and everything, then the rest of our members end up paying for it. They poisen this site, and I am not at all tolerent of it.

If you dont like the tone or the management of this site then DO something about it. Do your part to cut down on the nonsense from these problem people.

While I have yet to address the site being "boring" lately, (publicly) I dont mind sacrificing edge for a little harmony and continuity.


or . . . . we can just bitch and attack all the time

wow krell you said something I have in the past mentioned many times. (. Zero Paid is one of the angriest and least friendly sites I have seen.)

yup I go to plenty of sites and this one takes the cake.

oh well we still got cool people too, and if it was all that bad we woulnd't be here. right?

hmm or maybe we are crazier then the rest lol

peace

[Kyle06]

I also like the mods here they help you when you need it and fix thing's when something goes wronge.:fire :hole :fire :hole


Good Job Mods

[Crazy Horse]

Originally posted by Rickio
wow krell you said something I have in the past mentioned many times. (. Zero Paid is one of the angriest and least friendly sites I have seen.)

yup I go to plenty of sites and this one takes the cake.

oh well we still got cool people too, and if it was all that bad we woulnd't be here. right?

hmm or maybe we are crazier then the rest lol

peace

Did someone say --* CRAZY !!! *--

[MusikBeatz23]

I like ZeroPaid because it's interesting 2 read all the threads because there's always something going on... It also has many type of diferent people here... It's fun but at the same time formal...

[Rickio]

Originally posted by Crazy Horse
Did someone say --* CRAZY !!! *--

yup haha we is crazy lol

and I mean you bro!

peace

[Evil_Dweller_01]

Zeropaid.. ahh Zeropaid

So many memories....
I think this place rocks! It's fun reading all the threads everyday and its fun to see some newbies transform into fellow members who contribute to the community here...

Yup, I learned my lesson early because back then I was a newbie.. but I've matured along with the rest of us

Well... the mods have been doing a pretty decent job here although sometimes we might disagree with them, usually its for the better to just leave all the disagreements behind and just go on...

[Sephiroth]

Originally posted by Rickio
(. Zero Paid is one of the angriest and least friendly sites I have seen.)

yup I go to plenty of sites and this one takes the cake.


The answer isnt spam threads, war threads and this "community" crap that people have been pushing lately.. It didnt work for napsterites and its not going to work here because it gets old very quick and its not inviting to newer posters who feel left out and probably even a bit intimidated to post.

Alot of the problems is coming from some people who think they are running the forums and that if they bitch loud enough then they can get their way. Or because they view people as their own personal jesters for their entertainment or "dont care" then everyone should act like that.

But people need to realize that this site doesnt revolve around them this is a p2p site first and foremost and anyone who wants to conduct themself in a mature manner and not flame and not be a asshole are welcomed here. The last thing i want is what happened on the old gnutellaforums with mass flaming or people/programs and etc.

Those who want to specialize the forums to meet just theirs and a very small number of people IMHO can go somewheres that does cater to that particular thing instead of trying to force changes here. The political flaming for example..

Then again always having a certain pain in the ass to deal with doesnt help but really i dunno why people make such a big deal, hes oviously has been doing his worse for some time now and its not bad enough and i dont think one lamer can really threaten this place all that much...

[CTC Command]

I must have missed this thread when it first started, but just want to say again that I think the moderators are doing a good job around here. I don't have a whole hell of a lot to compare it with other than the history L-serve I subcribe to. It used to be really interesting a few years ago, we used to get into all kinds of philosophical debates and had alot of really fun "what if...?" discussions. But then a combination of really out-of-hand flaming and then extremely heavy-handed moderating completely emasculated that foum to the point now where very little actual discussion takes place--now its inactive except once in a while a newbie signs on to ask a question, and the surviving established members quickly pop out of the woodwork to politely answer, then its dead again. a + b = c.

It's all so clean and antiseptic and b-o-r-i-n-g...(edit: the history L-serve, not ZP!)

Out of curiosity I did subscribe to UTC a few months ago, but found the same technical info was available here so I don't go there. Should I? Is it really all that different?

[Rickio]

Originally posted by CTC Command
I must have missed this thread when it first started, but just want to say again that I think the moderators are doing a good job around here. I don't have a whole hell of a lot to compare it with other than the history L-serve I subcribe to. It used to be really interesting a few years ago, we used to get into all kinds of philosophical debates and had alot of really fun "what if...?" discussions. But then a combination of really out-of-hand flaming and then extremely heavy-handed moderating completely emasculated that foum to the point now where very little actual discussion takes place--now its inactive except once in a while a newbie signs on to ask a question, and the surviving established members quickly pop out of the woodwork to politely answer, then its dead again. a + b = c.

It's all so clean and antiseptic and b-o-r-i-n-g...

Out of curiosity I did subscribe to UTC a few months ago, but found the same technical info was available here so I don't go there. Should I? Is it really all that different?

I'd like to believe you can find any information here.
I do know we have many excellent people here who will help you find the information you might want or need.
One thing this forum is very good about, it's helping each other with technical issues and other information related issues.

I think we excell at that. kind of makes up for the rest of the weirdness lol

peace

[wingnut2600]

I have taken a little break as of late (actually my wife is on spring vacation and I have less time on the computer than usual) from posting, etcetera, and I have a new take on the site that i think that I am going to share:

Delete Sexy Spam

Delete the ZP picnic

Delete the pictures permanently

People can now meet each other in the chat if they so desire and the postings in these areas are irrelevant and make the newbies feel like they are not part of the initiated. The feeling of initiation is important to becoming part of a group, but others must still be allowed a chance to become part, which this current initiation does not allow.

Zeropaid is a dificult place for newbies to come to as of late... If they ask a legitimate question, they are likely to be flamed for their ignorance. If we lose the feeling of community, it is a good thing... it will keep us from making alliances and having reasons to keep out "new blood."

As I have stated in the past, people often become bored with the forums and start to post threads and replies regarding how "Zp has lost it" or "something sucks right now." I say to all these people, this is a reflection of a climate that you are creating yourself. The site is only as good as the posts that we make. Moderation can only take out items that are hindering the access to the content and focus the chat in a better way.

Stop talking about how something is losing its edge. Make it better, don't complain. This just serves to reinforce what you are hoping that it will not become. All sites will have their cycles.

By the way, this is a thread to comment on the moderators, not to have the moderators have a "con-fab." I appreciate all the moderators as human beings, and like all of you, but this is not the thread for you to be unless you are replying to a statement made about you or to stop something from occuring. You must seperate your moderator-self from your posting-self so that your voice does not become biased in other postings. The average poster must be able to view each of you as being fair and impartial from how you post... perhaps if you could distance these two aspects of your online identity. Remember, I have said it before, and i will say it again... Moderation takes moderation.

[Rickio]

Originally posted by wingnut2600
By the way, this is a thread to comment on the moderators, not to have the moderators have a "con-fab." I appreciate all the moderators as human beings, and like all of you, but this is not the thread for you to be unless you are replying to a statement made about you or to stop something from occuring. You must seperate your moderator-self from your posting-self so that your voice does not become biased in other postings. The average poster must be able to view each of you as being fair and impartial from how you post... perhaps if you could distance these two aspects of your online identity. Remember, I have said it before, and i will say it again... Moderation takes moderation.
I always apreciate your words.
but the mods are just people and we can and will post where we please and say what we please.
just like everyone else. Of course abiding by the rules.

I do believe that as a mod we need to have better self control and higher standards. But we are also just members who are helping out.
but in fact it looks bad when a mod comes accross as biased. I personally think a mod shoud refrain at the point they are getting too biased and emotionally involved in a post. but that is just my feelings.


peace

[The Hunter]

wingnut,as always a very interesting post. For me the family idea was always very important, and I used to take pride in welcoming a new member. That has been slowed down by the copycat posters. Those that flame a new member need to be reminded that they were newbies at one time themselves, and that just means new to the site. For me the family idea, is a good one, as long as we welcome new friends even if their ideas are different. We must always keep open minds.

[Crazy Horse]

Good words and thoughts from my friends (Hunter & Rickio). If you think it's been tough being a newbie - it hasn't been that easy being a mod lately either. I, too, like to welcome newcomers but with all the crap goin on lately that has been a tough assignment. We are now very wary and none of us like that feeling. It ironic how poison spreads.

[wingnut2600]

I apologize, I was trying on a different hat and seeing how it would fit... we should all try to view the world from a different perspective from time to time in order to perceive with the greatest clarity.

Yes, the moderators can post wherever they see fit, and I encourage them to do so, realizing that they are setting an example and have people examining their conduct. I was just being a bit sarcastic since this is a thread that is rating and discussing the moderators. The fact that the most recent posts were mostly made by the moderators I found just a bit funny and I thought that it would be humorous if i chastised you for putting your comments into this particular thread (which still seems a little strange for some reason).

It is unfortunate that this site has been targeted by a certain malcontent, and you have all been doing an excellent job to quell his voice as well as been receptive both directions in PM's apprising all of the state of affairs. The reaction has always been swift and fair regarding this individual (I feel as if it is Lord Voldemort, referring to this person as "he who shall not me named").

I just don't want this thread to become one of those threads regarding the "downhill roll" that some always consider the site to be following. These sentiments are like cancer to a BBS--spreading into the very fabric of its being and interfusing with all content until that is all that can be posted about (until the masses are distracted [see sexy spam] and then they forget again since this downhill roll never actually occured and was just a feeling that was perpetuated by those that did not realize that in their hands they held the power to change).

[cheapprick]

Originally posted by wingnut2600

People can now meet each other in the chat if they so desire and the postings in these areas are irrelevant and make the newbies feel like they are not part of the initiated. The feeling of initiation is important to becoming part of a group, but others must still be allowed a chance to become part, which this current initiation does not allow.


I can't agree with this comment. I haven't joined the chat, and although I'm sure it's great, it's not my thing. Why shouldn't the members that want to chat go use the chat. I don't want to be taken the wrong way, but the sense of community existed before the chat started, right here in the forum. I don't think that threads like the ones you listed are going to scare anyone away, they just show an easy going camaraderie among the members. In fact the huge spam thread is locked so people won't even see it unless they go looking, no?

[Lamourlady]

;)

[iq214]

Peers...the cause of and solution to all of lifes problems.

[phalkon30]

Wow, didn't mean for it to turn into such a serious discussion

I think I'll step this one out, I can't keep a solid oppinion, and don't know what I would like more at the moment for this forum

[Mel_Smiley]

I support my local mods in this war against the poser toads and for not banning me for being a nimrod. you all get one of these

:wings
and two of these:fire :fire



rock on

[reg]

I'd like to believe you can find any information here.
I do know we have many excellent people here who will help you find the information you might want or need.
One thing this forum is very good about, it's helping each other with technical issues and other information related issues.

I think we excell at that. kind of makes up for the rest of the weirdness lol . . .

i've really enjoyed this thread . . . the ying & yang of it all ... alot of the posts reminded me of the saying ... if you're not part of the solution, then you're part of the problem. so, really, it's up to each us what part we choose to play during our stay here. the words above have proved to be so true in my case, that within this family, we can find a storehouse of information & help to put the information we find to practical use...kudos to all!!! kinda funny, though, about some of the moderating comments...i take full responsibility for the disappearing threads... : ) ... the 2 times i posted yesterday, both threads went poof!! yup, it's me...hehe (j/k!!!) : )

but once again ... my $0.02...big :gj :gj :gj :gj thumbs up to our mods!!! :;)

[Sephiroth]

Originally posted by janett999
i HONESTLY wish i could help here...
ive said this alot...i like this site.
so any of you mods have any ideas
on how i can help out AT ALL...please PM me
i really want to help!

have a great day ppl! :)

Just post like you usually do and have a good time.

Why there are moderators is to deal with the problems, the lamers and etc so users dont have too.

[reg]

...i know there are times when the mods need to do undercover work & so they aren't visible to the rest of us... but i must say, i somehow feel better when i see the mods names in the list of users... like at this moment, there are two here & i just feel better knowing that they are here ...

[The Hunter]

reg, just do as Seph said, and enjoy this place. We will do our best to make this place run smooth.

[reg]

Originally posted by The Hunter
reg, just do as Seph said, and enjoy this place. We will do our best to make this place run smooth.

yup & we all know you're all doing your best...thank you...
kinda funny, but i love tom petty ... & his "i won't back down" kinda just popped into my head... especially thinking about you guys and all your efforts on our behalf ... :upside
well I won't back down, no I won't back down
you could stand me up at the gates of hell
but I won't back down

Gonna stand my ground, won't be turned around
and I'll keep this world from draggin' me down
gonna stand my ground and I won't back down

Well I know what's right, I got just one life
in a world that keeps on pushin' me around
but I'll stand my ground and I won't back down

Hey baby there ain't no easy way out
hey I will stand my ground
and I won't back down
No, I won't back down