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Excrement_Cranium
October 23rd, 2009, 09:16 AM
Warning, it's almost an hour long:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1309608405082393267&hl=en#

It's also British, so you know, it doesn't count.

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mountain_rage
October 23rd, 2009, 10:44 AM
Watched the first 20 minutes so far, Dawkins doesn't come across as well as he normally does, he seemed quite irate.

So far the worst argument has come from the bishop. He panders to tradition and the status quo rather than reasoning for why the rules in place should remain. He has given me the same argument given to me as to why I shouldn't have abandoned my faith, and is clearly a fallacious argument. The funniest is when he is called out he clearly indicates that there are issues, but then backpedals with no real reasoning other than tradition.

The most level headed religious figure in the debate was the Sikh. Which seemed much more accepting of others and secularism than the religions known for the hard line and ideological stances.

Excrement_Cranium
October 23rd, 2009, 12:24 PM
My ring in the whole schmackle is this: there is absolutely no reason why private schools should not be allowed by the state to be faith-based schools.

Sure, I've been linking Dawkins here and there, but to be honest I don't totally agree with the aggressive atheist notion.

I do, however, believe that faith-based teaching belongs in the home, church, or private schools selected by the parent.

No good Catholic should be corrupted by Baptist thought in public schools.

Oh, and teach evolution.

mountain_rage
October 23rd, 2009, 12:32 PM
My ring in the whole schmackle is this: there is absolutely no reason why private schools should not be allowed by the state to be faith-based schools.

Sure, I've been linking Dawkins here and there, but to be honest I don't totally agree with the aggressive atheist notion.

I do, however, believe that faith-based teaching belongs in the home, church, or private schools selected by the parent.

No good Catholic should be corrupted by Baptist thought in public schools.

Oh, and teach evolution.

I'm not sure if I understood the show properly, but I was getting the sense that the private schools get public money, which I think was one argument against it.

Excrement_Cranium
October 23rd, 2009, 01:08 PM
I'm not sure if I understood the show properly, but I was getting the sense that the private schools get public money, which I think was one argument against it.

Probably true.

And private schools in the US probably receive a decent amount of stipends from public funds as well. But I think vs public school funding it's fractional, and not really worth the time to bitch about, unless you are like some kind of fiscally conservative atheist or something...