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PornMaster
January 1st, 2003, 01:20 PM
how do you change a NTFS to a FAT32 file system?

Krell
January 1st, 2003, 01:25 PM
YOU DO NOT

Ken17625
January 1st, 2003, 01:36 PM
How do you change a FAT32 file system to a NTFS file system?

kevoid
January 1st, 2003, 01:42 PM
Why would you want a FAT32 over an NTFS???

notbob
January 1st, 2003, 01:43 PM
buy a new hard drive

format it to fat32

reinstall windows

reinstall all your other stuff

there is no other way (well you don't necessarily need a new hdd, you could format the one you have)

Krell
January 1st, 2003, 01:45 PM
Originally posted by Ken17625
How do you change a FAT32 file system to a NTFS file system?

If you have an NTFS O/S, like XP, and you are currently a fat32 system, you can use a command line to convert up to NTFS. You may NOT however do the reverse, or even go back.

To convert a FAT partition to NTFS, perform the following steps.

Click Start, click Programs, and then click Command Prompt.

At the command prompt, type CONVERT [driveletter]: /FS:NTFS.
Convert.exe will attempt to convert the partition to NTFS.

*note, there is a space in that command line after the colon.

notbob
January 1st, 2003, 01:47 PM
Originally posted by kevoid
Why would you want a FAT32 over an NTFS???

what's the difference? i've had total failures with both

ntfs has some options that no home user could possibly need--encrypting filesystem, quota options

why bother using it?

Krell
January 1st, 2003, 02:08 PM
Ummm Performance . . . Large disk volumes. . .

http://www.ntfs.com/ntfs_vs_fat.htm

http://www.experts-exchange.com/Operating_Systems/Q_20281807.html

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/columns/russel/october01.asp

http://www.anandtech.com/guides/viewfaq.html?i=63

notbob
January 1st, 2003, 02:47 PM
Originally posted by Krell
Ummm Performance . . . Large disk volumes. . .

http://www.ntfs.com/ntfs_vs_fat.htm

http://www.experts-exchange.com/Operating_Systems/Q_20281807.html

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/columns/russel/october01.asp

http://www.anandtech.com/guides/viewfaq.html?i=63

this is all true of course, but do you think that "average" users give a crap about any of that?

how many people use AOL and willingly installed the Bonzi Buddy again?

oh yeah! MILLIONS!

Krell
January 1st, 2003, 02:50 PM
I couldnt agree with you more notbob.
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grab_grab_the_haddock
January 1st, 2003, 02:52 PM
hey that bonzi buddy is kinda cute, he helps me on the internet in all sorts of ways.
and i always feel safe surfing the world wide web with AOL.

12345678910
January 1st, 2003, 02:56 PM
Originally posted by notbob
this is all true of course, but do you think that "average" users give a crap about any of that?

how many people use AOL and willingly installed the Bonzi Buddy again?

oh yeah! MILLIONS!

Most of us are not average users...

If you do any gaming, file sharing, FTP, or programing; I think you shouldn't be classified as an average user anymore.

I think the retards who stay one AOL all day and chat would be more of the average user.

Also the average user wouldn't know what the hell Fat32 or NTFS is in the first place.

I agree with both notbob and Krell on this one.

Peace,
12345678910

DiddlySquat
January 1st, 2003, 05:04 PM
Is NTSF all that much faster? I'm running Win Xp Home on FAT32...(WD 120 GB 8mb cache) If i convert, will my performance increase noticably or not?

Krell
January 1st, 2003, 05:10 PM
Noticeably ? No I do not think so. Stability? Yes, indeed a plus.

DiddlySquat
January 1st, 2003, 05:22 PM
Ok. good thing im on vacation.....Looks like its that time again kiddies! Time for Computer tweaking. Gonna go to NTFS (hopefully i wont screw it up lol).

PowerMan57two
January 1st, 2003, 05:35 PM
i'll help you, use partition magic pro like someone else said, but if it's a big hard drive, like 20gb or more just keep ntfs. cause ntfs are designed to support big hard drives. and fat32 u only need if your planning to go back to say windows me or 98. but that wouldn't be good either. i would just stay with ntfs unless u know what your doing. but partition magic pro 8.0 or 7.0.

Krell
January 1st, 2003, 05:40 PM
I hardly think that you are in position to give ANY advice on this subject.

ESPECIALLY this subject, as it doesnt include anything to do with Emenem.

get real

And btw people, stay away from Partition Magic or any other such app unless you inherently need to. Our repeated words of warning to PowerMan57two was for your own good.

PowerMan57two
January 1st, 2003, 05:46 PM
lol ur funny. i knowit doesn't have to do anything with eminem? thats jus my signiture ya idiot? and i can give any adivce i want. ntfs is for larger drives, even though a small drive could have ntfs too if ya' would like. and partition magic pro is an okay program. i like it a lot it has helped me a lot when i had one hard drive and i wanted to reinstall windows or something i created a new partition and stored all my crap on there for like 2 days while i got my computer back to normal. and i'd be happy to let you know i'm going to shool for a computer support specialist. but i don't see in any way why u have to sit here and complain about my posts? don't read them then. i don't sit here and diss your posts. and then to start dissing me, when u don't even know me? wow, some people are really messed up.

Ken17625
January 1st, 2003, 05:53 PM
I hardly think that you are in position to give ANY advice on this subject.

ESPECIALLY this subject, as it doesnt include anything to do with Emenem.


Krell, even if your advice may be deemed "better" by yourself or others you have to remember that everyone has a right to give their opinion or advice on this BBS as long as it follows the rules laid out by the ZP crew. And yes, dare I say the idiots name, eminem doesn't have anything to do with the subject, but he didn't say anything about eminem now did he. That is his signature. In my opinion(wether or not you agree with it or care), PowerMan57two didn't deserve that kind of response.


This post is not a flame. Its just my opinion. Take it any way you wan't to.

notbob
January 1st, 2003, 05:59 PM
Originally posted by PowerMan57two
blah blah blah

the Let's merge hard drives thread proved your ignorance on the subject of hard drives, OS's, and the internal workings of a pc

mess with your computer a LOT more--fuck it up and fix it about 100 times--then come back and give us some advice

also, read a lot of ms knowlege base articles and the like

then you can call us idiots

Krell
January 1st, 2003, 06:11 PM
Wow, I cant pull the wool over your eyes can I?

WHO, not even a week ago, had a thread, knew NOTHING about installing a new drive, would NOT listen to advice, and has the audacity to tell someone else whether or not they should use NTSF or fat32?

The only damn thing you DO seem to know about, is Emenem.

I dont have to "know you" to know that you really have little to no idea what you are talking about. This is not your field, even if you ARE in school to be a "support specialist" you have pretty much 0 knowledge and experience in it. THAT is a fact. Do you really want to argue with 2 decades of experience and $10,000 in course material that sits 10 feet away from me?

And you Ken17625, don't pull that suzie "why are you picking on him" attitude with me either. If he is bold enough to open his mouth where it dosnt belong, he is big enough to take the heat.
And so are you.

In fact, I thought you were brighter than that Ken17625. How do you suppose PowerMan57two is really going to help him? Huh? By requoting or misqouting what myself or notbob or dealie or cpugenuise has already stated?

Man dont make me open a can of whoopass everytime you have no idea what you are talking about. Yes, I am really messed up, how do you think I got this way? bonehead

Koffee Bean
January 1st, 2003, 07:09 PM
This is a straight quote from Chris Pirillo:


Installing and reinstalling Windows used to be pretty routine. Ya know, after the thirteenth time, you started to memorize each step. Enter NTFS. It's a newer, more secure, robust file system that will replace FAT32 in a matter of years. In installing Windows 2000 or XP, you have to make a choice whether or not you want to make the move to NTFS or stick with FAT32. If you don't know, don't go (to NTFS). What happens if you find that XP (or 2000) isn't working as well as you'd like it to? More importantly: what if you miss good ol' 98, but your drive was now NTFS? Oops. You'll need to run the Recovery Console to reformat a drive to FAT32. WARNING: this will wipe out all data on that drive. Reboot the computer, making sure you've inserted your XP or 2000 CD-ROM (or the corresponding boot floppy). Tap F10 to continue through the "Welcome" screen. Now, in the Recovery Console, choose an installation and log into it with your Administrator account password. You remember it, right? Type: MAP (and then tap ENTER). Tell it which drive you wish to reformat (in most cases, it will be your C drive). Type: "format C: /fs:fat32" (sans quotes)(NOTE: There is a space between the colon (:) and the slash, but no space between the C and the colon) . Tap 'y' to confirm. When all is said and done, type exit to restart the machine. Your C drive should now be back to its original FAT32 condition.

Rickio
January 1st, 2003, 07:15 PM
everyone just cool it with the dissing back and forth.

damn you guys piss me off when you get into your little attitude fests.

stick to the facts if you think or know someone is wrong.

relax and take it easy.

peace

NightsMaster
January 1st, 2003, 07:17 PM
Boy, it looks like my crash of 2 weeks had some advantages.
The system installed originally was FAT32. When I used the
recovery disk after the crash, it installed an NTFS system.
Thanks for all the info in this thread. I'll be the first to admit
there's alot I don't know about computers. Yes, I may know more than some people, but there's alot more I don't know. ZP forums has helped me immensely.

Krell
January 1st, 2003, 07:25 PM
Thank you Koffee Bean, you get an A+ for effort. That is certainly one way to go back to fat32, and lose all data.

I didn't address it further as notbob was correct in his assesment. I would rather have 2 of you for a project than 10 of some of these other guys.

Koffee Bean
January 1st, 2003, 07:39 PM
Originally posted by Krell
Thank you Koffee Bean, you get an A+ for effort. That is certainly one way to go back to fat32, and lose all data.

I didn't address it further as notbob was correct in his assesment. I would rather have 2 of you for a project than 10 of some of these other guys.

Why thank you Krell, that is QUITE a compliment coming from you, a person who has a VAST knowledge of computers.

Ken17625
January 1st, 2003, 07:50 PM
In fact, I thought you were brighter than that Ken17625. How do you suppose PowerMan57two is really going to help him? Huh? By requoting or misqouting what myself or notbob or dealie or cpugenuise has already stated?


I said take it any way you wan't, and you took it that way. Fine with me. Wether or not PowerMan57two can "help" him or not makes no difference. It makes me wonder wether or not you even understand that this board is open to all comments from whomever as long as it follows the rules. I'm certainly not telling you to not make yours, I just stated my opinion on your reply. Go ahead and respond if you like. I'll move on.

Vladd44
January 1st, 2003, 07:56 PM
I personally dont like converting fat32 to ntfs.

If you want NTFS...and yes there are some real afvantages. both security and performance.

But every drive i have dealt with that was converted has had some additional performance issues.

If you have fat32 and want ntfs, I would suggest from the ground up. Back it all up, format and start from the top.

PowerMan57two
January 2nd, 2003, 12:51 AM
Krell thinks he own the forums. he thinks we can't post and try to help people. i think your just digging yourself a bigger whole. because u don't own the forums, and we can post in any thread we want to, even if it's not our area of expertise. I like what that one person said, where no all gonna know the same about computers, some will know a lot more, some wont. and i think you need to accept that everyone isn't where u are at. so have patience and quit bitching at people.

Krell
January 2nd, 2003, 01:54 AM
Well I guess if that's the best arguement you have, I will just have to live with it huh?

It's not a problem really. In fact, what you suggest speaks for its self. So, If you give answers that involve pudding and duct tape, and someone is stupid enough to take you seriously, it's their problem isnt it?

I'm not treating you any differently than anyone else. You just happen to be the nut-head of the day, that outstretched their abilities on advice.

I spent 10 hours today, working on projects, and the pinnacle of your day, was that 1/2 intellegible rant on giving advice, which included the phrase "unless u know what your doing", I find that damn ironic.

Your statement was intended for a situation where the answer was one whole minute of typing convert c: /FS:NTFS. It didnt require partition magic. or pudding.

I dont own the forums, not do I have any desire to dominate one as scorch did. You're just sore because I called you on the carpet. And your right, I dont HAVE to read your posts, but some one else will. Are you willing to back up what you say 100% with your weeks' worth of experience?

Furthermore, I have actually quoted you before. Well, what you said, but I didnt put your name to it, as not to embarrase you, or bring on an attack towards you. So dont make me out to be some bully, I could have buried you any time previously.

Please just have some dignity, and I will not try to pretend I am knowledgeable about emenem, deal?

.

Koffee Bean
January 2nd, 2003, 10:10 PM
People, People, People, GET OVER IT! In the words of John Lennon, "Can't We All Just Get Along?"

toddot4u
January 2nd, 2003, 10:11 PM
thats the stupidest thing ive ever heard to switch from ntfs to fat32.....come on now people lets think:mellow