could jupiter be right

[roger d]

There are certainly differences is how people use and think of music. One big reason for the downturn in the music industry is the very music that they push-it is totally predictable and rather plain. To find anything with any new pazaa you have to look at the independents. I think that anyone who collected at all befor CD's has to have a different slant on the value of music. I would have to guess that anyone that started collecting with p2p programs and never had to go through the shop to shop hunt nor the disappointment of the "only one good cut" frustrations would have to have a different value on music.
I can say that I would rate music as very important in my world. Much more than just a soundtrack to a day or week, there are bands that are like my friends, because they have been with me for so long.

[Rickio]

The music industry keeps complaining about losing money and that is not the problem.
The problem is they are selling lousy music.
There is always good music around, but the music industry is out for a buck not make music or allow good music.
The older producers and guys from the 50's and 60's were more in tune with art and music and the music that came out of the 60's is still way cool and holding up well.

It's all in the attitude and the 80's and 90's has some good stuff going on but is now-where as groud-breaking or whatever term you may like to use.. as I can easily remember hearing new music and getting my mind blown away on a regular basis and now, well not as often. But like I said their is still good music, you just need to hunt it down....

The attitude of the 60's was "FREE" the attitude of today seems like it could be "ME"

oh well off the box I come...

[papadoc]

<soapbox>

I can remember going down to the local record store,
and flipping through all the albums,
picking them up, looking at the cover, flipping it over,
and reading the back.
You knew that every song on the album was good.
I didn't mind spending my money on the ones I wanted,
because I knew I was getting my moneys worth.
So I bought and I bought and I bought.

The other day I downloaded Moby's new CD, to see what it was like.
Halfway through I was thinking...this is really good.
Then everything went downhill...it sounded like he ran out of good ideas...and filled the rest of the CD with filler,
to make the CD full and satisfy the record company,
with a new release to make money.
I won't be wasting my money on it, not for half a good CD.

To me, herein lies the problem.
The record companies are putting so much pressure on artists today, to release new CD's as fast as they can,
to market them to the young folks for their money.
They aren't giving the artists enough time to really come through
with good stuff.
I would rather have an artist release one CD a year, knowing that everything on it was good, than two or three with crap.
Then I'd start buying music again.

The record companies have lost touch with what music is.
It is not ALL ABOUT MONEY.
It's about music, and the journey it takes us on, when we listen to it.
It's about the feelings and emotions of the artists.
It's from the heart and soul, not the pocketbook.

</soapbox>

[wiggum]

could jupiter be right

On the question of Jupiter's 'p2p helps music' claim, I don't buy it. The survey was flawed as is a lot of Jupiter's work. I really believe that p2p is seriously denting sales overall. It has a negative effect on sales.

Is 'lousy music' or the music industries marketing policies also killing sales? Well, Perhaps they are isolating a section of people who have taste in music and believe in value of what they hear but it really is a minority.

[Crazy Horse]

I agree with most of the comments posted above. The older music has held up because it was that good. Whole albums were good - a rare thing these days. Something has been lost and I think it has to do with the way the industry is structured. Look at groups like Aerosmith that have been through it all - the quality of their music has dropped. No longer are whole albums good. The industry is driving themselves into the ground and they have alot of EXCUSES why. They are so blinded by the all mighty dollar that they can't smell the roses. The funny thing is - they are so commited now to their own dynamo - it's like a freight train out of control.